GTR2002 (F1 2002 mod)

SimBin · released 2003 · discussed in 1,121 posts, 2002-2005 · overall tone positive

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Timeline

2003-05-29 SimBin released the Ferrari 360 Modena Challenge mod, which also updated GTR 2002 to version 1.3. post post
2003-08-03 The SimBin Development Team closed its forums and went commercial. RaceSimCentral became the new home for its community. post post

Key threads

Racing instructor's article ranking sim realism 2003-01-31 · 88 posts
David G Fisher linked an article by racing instructor Malcolm Edeson (Maxx) arguing that GPL and GTR2002 had unrealistic quirks and that Nascar Heat with mods was a better training tool. Maxx joined in at length, explaining that his criteria were about driver training and that simpler physics did not mean less realistic. Others debated tire squeal, high-speed handling and physics rates, and Maxx later posted more specific details at readers' request.
Struggling to download the GTR2002 mod 2002-12-02 · 29 posts
Days after release, users struggled with dead or overloaded mirrors for the 265 MB GTR2002 mod. Others shared it on Kazaa and eDonkey and posted working RSC, Boomtown and FilePlanet links. Nick compared the demand to Quake shareware's 1996 release.
A GPL fan's first impressions of F1 2002 and GTR2002 2002-12-30 · 92 posts
Malc posted a review of F1 2002 and the GTR2002 mod from a GPL driver's point of view. David G Fisher attacked him for GPL elitism, and others called Fisher a jerk and a bigot. The rest of the thread praised Doug Arnao's setups and physics, discussed tips, the Road Atlanta track and RC2000, and compared GTR's interiors with GPL's.
Is F1 2002 worth buying just for GTR2002? 2002-12-03 · 60 posts
Posters overwhelmingly said to buy F1 2002, then on sale for about $15-20, just for GTR2002, and to donate to the SimBin team. Online play was described as weak, though Dave Henrie gave tips for 6-8 player races. Frame-rate troubleshooting, nVidia driver advice and calls for a Can-Am mod followed.
Is GTR2002 better than Grand Prix Legends? 2002-12-06 · 49 posts
R.Denessen declared GTR2002 the best racing sim ever, better than GPL. Jan Verschueren and Tony Rickard agreed it challenged GPL's unique feel, while John Pancoast argued GPL's online racing gave it a longevity no offline sim could match. Banter followed about GPL cars resembling water heaters and kazoos, along with wishes for a Trans-Am mod and complaints about ISI netcode.
GTR2002 confirmed as a mod for EA's F1 2002 2002-12-02 · 33 posts
Dunk checked that GTR2002 required EA's F1 2002, and posters confirmed it was better than the original game. They praised the Brands Hatch track textures as the most realistic yet and credited ISI's open engine. Its poor netcode was noted.
Appeal for donations to the GTR2002 team 2002-12-16 · 29 posts
Andy reported that GTR2002 had over 75,000 downloads but only about 400 pounds in donations, less than half a month's server costs. Many posters said they had donated or then did so. Others debated the bandwidth maths and suggested adding a donation reminder in the game.
SimBin hints at a major new project 2003-06-19 · 28 posts
An announcement on the SimBin (GTR2002 mod team) site hinted at something big beyond its mods. Posters speculated on whether it would use the NR2003 or ISI engine, leading to an argument over which had better physics, with Mika Takala noting ISI computes suspension in real time. Goy Larsen hinted at Aussie V8 work on the Papyrus engine.
Hardware needed for good GTR2002 frame rates 2003-01-15 · 37 posts
A Voodoo 5 owner asked what hardware would give 50 fps in GTR2002 with a full field. Suggestions included a Radeon 9500/9700 or GeForce4 Ti, and Joe M. explained that only the non-Pro 9500 can be soft-modded to a 9700. Damien Smith doubted any system could hold 50 fps from the back of a full grid. Texture corruption on Radeons was fixed by cleaning old nVidia registry entries with Reg Cleaner.
NR2003 versus Live for Speed and GTR2002 2003-02-11 · 33 posts
Luke Phillips said that after NR2003, Live for Speed felt arcade-like, and others agreed LFS needed more powerful cars and tracks. The argument shifted to GTR2002 when Kevin Webb called it weak, drawing pushback for giving no detail. Sound card crackling with the Hercules Game Theater XP was also discussed.
Add-on tracks for GTR2002 and F1 2002 2002-12-03 · 32 posts
Gerry Aitken asked what add-on tracks were available for GTR2002. Maxi posted a list and download sites, and posters explained how to install the converted Le Mans track. There were requests for Road Atlanta, Road America and the Nurburgring, and banter about Dave Henrie's slow lap on the findthelimit leaderboard.
Removing GTR2002 constant force feedback vibration 2002-12-01 · 29 posts
Marc Collins wanted to remove GTR2002's constant engine-idle wheel vibration without losing other forces. After lowering the FFB level was suggested, Haqsau explained editing the .PLR file's custom device type and throttle-effects settings, which solved it. Others noted that the effects level affected frame rates with some wheels.
Restarting a stalled engine in GTR2002 2002-12-02 · 29 posts
Marc Collins asked how to restart a stalled engine in GTR2002 without clutch assistance. Players explained that the F1 2002 engine has no starter, so you must roll-start the car or keep the clutch down when spinning. A crash on pit request was traced to pit crew animations and fixed by setting them to low.
GTR2002 engine sounds and annoyed spouses 2002-12-03 · 26 posts
Dave Henrie joked about his wife objecting to the GTR2002 Marcos sound at full volume, and others praised the mod's sounds through surround speakers. Tim Epstein relayed that the developers clipped high-rev audio on purpose for realism after Marc Collins noticed distortion. Talk turned to Chaparrals and a hoped-for Can-Am mod.
Impressions of a full-length GTR2002 race 2002-12-27 · 26 posts
Mike Beauchamp described his first 100% race, in a Ferrari 360 at Spa in GTR2002, and listed problems including blue-flag stop-and-go penalties and race-ending rear wing damage. Others explained these came from the F1 2002 base, shared NGT setup tweaks, and suggested turning flag rules off. The weak online play was again lamented.
GTR2002 tyre squeal, brake lock-up and axis sensitivity 2002-12-03 · 23 posts
Jon asked how much tyre squeal was acceptable in GTR2002, and Marc Collins asked why he could not lock the brakes at speed. Damien Smith and Jan Verschueren explained that downforce at high speed stops the brakes locking the wheels, as in GPL. They also clarified that 50% axis sensitivity in F1 2002 gives a linear response for wheels and pedals.
Running GTR2002 without Windows XP Service Pack 1 2003-04-29 · 23 posts
Zen asked whether GTR2002 needs Windows XP SP1, since he got an unexpected error at startup. Several said it runs fine without SP1, and suggestions included fixing runtime files and reducing the number of installed cars. Zen eventually got the lite launcher working after reinstalling drivers and DirectX 9.
Road Atlanta track and setups for GTR2002 2002-12-31 · 22 posts
Players asked for GTR2002 setups on the newly ported Road Atlanta, converted from SCGT. Haqsau suggested adapting Doug Arnao's Donington or Spa baselines. Using the Spa setup cut one driver's personal best by about 2.5 seconds, and many called it their favourite track.
Request for Dave Henrie's help with F1 2002 graphics 2003-02-06 · 21 posts
Aidee asked Dave Henrie for help with a forum thread about missing polygons in F1 2002 and GTR2002, but the link did not work for him. Once he found it, the thread turned into jokes about how to spell faux pas.
Late discovery of the GTR2002 mod 2003-03-25 · 20 posts
Race1530 described being thrilled by the GTR2002 mod for F1 2002 months after its release, and others discussed the Viper's sound and hoped for classic cars. Kevin Webb called it overrated, citing poor sound and physics, and others pushed back that a free mod rivalled most retail sims.
GTR2002 races stuck at five laps on add-on tracks 2002-12-11 · 20 posts
Steve Smith found every GTR2002 race on add-on tracks ran five laps. This was traced to missing entries in the game.gdb track calendar, and a complete GTR game.gdb covering all 44 tracks was linked. Others discussed settings resetting themselves and how to set up time-limited endurance races.