GTR without XP Service Pack #1

Hi all I've tried installing and running GTR, with no succes. I have received significant input from several of you -Thanks all! But I would like to know, has anybody managed to run it without window XP's update? Thanks Zen

"Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:wRkra.25563$[email hidden]:

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> Hi all > > I've tried installing and running GTR, with no succes. I have received > significant input from several of you -Thanks all! > > But I would like to know, has anybody managed to run it without window > XP's update? > > Thanks > > Zen > > >

From what I have read, you need the service pak. But I'm not sure if you need the service pak for the mod or just the pre-menu. Refresh my feeble noggin...what is happening when you try and run it. Have you read the pinned installation thread at the Simbin forums? dave henrie

On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 01:48:12 GMT, "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi all > >I've tried installing and running GTR, with no succes. I have received >significant input from several of you -Thanks all! > >But I would like to know, has anybody managed to run it without window XP's >update? > >Thanks > >Zen >

I run GTR just fine and I have never installed SP1. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > I run GTR just fine and I have never installed SP1. Same here... -- __________________________ Todd Walker http://twalker.d2g.com __________________________

same here.. AD

"Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:b8lepu$r12$[email hidden]: > same here.. > > AD > > > Good to know. Do you play the movie at the intro? And have you updated to v1.2 of GTR? Thanks. Also, another tip to the originl poster. Do you have large fonts enabled on your desktop? Try using the default or small fonts.

Get an illegal copy of XP and you can install SP1 ;-p AD

which of the 637 ways would you like me to say..? you live a sheltered life then..? ;-) AD

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> On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:11:45 +0100, "Aidee" <[email hidden]> > reckoned: > > >>which of the 637 ways would you like me to say..? >> >>you live a sheltered life then..? >> >>;-) >> >> >>AD >> > > > I have a legal copy of XP so have never bothered to look it up. But I > did read that Microsoft added something to SP1 that detects an > illegal copy and won't install SP1. Just curios to know how it was > circumnavigated.

http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=2390

Hi, I can't get it to start.. I get an "unexpected error: quitting". I made a clear install of F1 2002, installed the nocd, ran it. Crashed my Minardi big time in Spain. Then installed GTR02. Then ran GTRun to create the proper .ini. Ain't running. Installed the patch; same result. Maybe if I tried it with someone else's ini file? I did look up the simbin threads, and I did find a similar cases, but the guy never was able to run it. I use normal fonts. GTR better be good .... Lonely Momo "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:b8lepu$r12$[email hidden]: > > > same here.. > > > > AD > > > > > > > > Good to know. Do you play the movie at the intro? And have you > updated to v1.2 of GTR? Thanks. > Also, another tip to the originl poster. Do you have large fonts enabled > on your desktop? Try using the default or small fonts.

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> > I did look up the simbin threads, and I did find a similar cases, but > the guy never was able to run it. I use normal fonts. GTR better be > good .... > > Lonely Momo > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in >> news:b8lepu$r12$[email hidden]: >> >> > same here.. >> > >> > AD >> > >> > >> > >> >> Good to know. Do you play the movie at the intro? And have you >> updated to v1.2 of GTR? Thanks. >> Also, another tip to the originl poster. Do you have large fonts >> enabled on your desktop? Try using the default or small fonts. > >

I think it was using gtrun instead of the other exe. GT run kinda bypasses the pre-menu where all the config stuff is squared away. Double check that F1 2k2 is working then try to load GTR2k2 with the GTRacing 2002.exe If you have win98, make sure the media player is updated via MSupdate. If you use somebody else gtr2002config.ini you have to change the 2nd half of the file to match your own config.ini file for the F1 sim. If you double clik on the file config.ini you'll see a bunch of text. About halfway down is a line that says: grid=22 everything below that in your GTR2002config.ini should match your original f1 config.ini info. dave henrie

Dave, I have done that, but it was as efficient in solving my problem as was the 1999 B.A.R..at winning races ... "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Zen" < > > > > I did look up the simbin threads, and I did find a similar cases, but > > the guy never was able to run it. I use normal fonts. GTR better be > > good .... > > > > Lonely Momo > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in > >> news:b8lepu$r12$[email hidden]: > >> > >> > same here.. > >> > > >> > AD > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Good to know. Do you play the movie at the intro? And have you > >> updated to v1.2 of GTR? Thanks. > >> Also, another tip to the originl poster. Do you have large fonts > >> enabled on your desktop? Try using the default or small fonts. > > > > > > I think it was using gtrun instead of the other exe. GT run kinda > bypasses the pre-menu where all the config stuff is squared away. Double > check that F1 2k2 is working then try to load GTR2k2 with the GTRacing > 2002.exe If you have win98, make sure the media player is updated via > MSupdate. > If you use somebody else gtr2002config.ini you have to change the 2nd > half of the file to match your own config.ini file for the F1 sim. If you > double clik on the file config.ini you'll see a bunch of text. About > halfway down is a line that says: > grid=22 > everything below that in your GTR2002config.ini should match your original > f1 config.ini info. > > > dave henrie

"Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<E2Fra.49256$[email hidden]>... > Hi, > > I can't get it to start.. I get an "unexpected error: quitting" As a programmer I dealt with these things several times before to get my own programs running. The "unexpected error" comes from a wrong registration of the runtime files comdlg32.ocx and/or comctl32.ocx which are used by the GTRMod Launcher. They are supposed to be in the system folder, so when a program needs a newer version of these files it overwrites them there. So does the GTR installation. Obviously another program you installed earlier did not place these runtime files into the system folder and the GTR installation could not update them. Now the registry points to the older files which cause the unexpected error. What you can do is to change the path in the registry pointing to these runtime files to the system folder. Or, if you don�t dare to change the registry, do a search for these files on your harddisks and replace all of them with the ones from the system folder. This always helped. Klaus

Other than security (maybe), are there any benefits to installing SP1? It seems I've read this can slow your system down. \Todd "Kronos" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 01:48:12 GMT, "Zen" <[email hidden]> reckoned: > > >Hi all > > > >I've tried installing and running GTR, with no succes. I have received > >significant input from several of you -Thanks all! > > > >But I would like to know, has anybody managed to run it without window

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> >update? > > > >Thanks > > > >Zen > > > > Get a legal copy of XP and you can install SP1. Hehe. > > -- > Not For Email

Kronos....if **someone** has a pirate copy of Win XP and wants to add SP1 it will detect that it is a pirate copy, install and slow it down to a crawl or not install at all. This is because it has detected certain parameters. If **someone** were to alter those parameters then SP1 can't detect them and installs as per normal. Is that what you are asking? AD

Klaus, I did find a older copy of each file elsewhere on the drive, and I did overwrite them with the version found in the systems folder as you suggest, but I still get the same error message. Any thoughts? Zen "Klaus H�rbrand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:<E2Fra.49256$[email hidden]>...

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> > Hi, > > > > I can't get it to start.. I get an "unexpected error: quitting" > > > As a programmer I dealt with these things several times before to get > my own programs running. > > The "unexpected error" comes from a wrong registration of the runtime > files comdlg32.ocx and/or comctl32.ocx which are used by the GTRMod > Launcher. They are supposed to be in the system folder, so when a > program needs a newer version of these files it overwrites them there. > So does the GTR installation. > > Obviously another program you installed earlier did not place these > runtime files into the system folder and the GTR installation could > not update them. Now the registry points to the older files which > cause the unexpected error. > > What you can do is to change the path in the registry pointing to > these runtime files to the system folder. Or, if you don�t dare to > change the registry, do a search for these files on your harddisks and > replace all of them with the ones from the system folder. > > This always helped. > > Klaus

"Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:xd%ra.47779$[email hidden]:

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> Klaus, > > I did find a older copy of each file elsewhere on the drive, and I did > overwrite them with the version found in the systems folder as you > suggest, but I still get the same error message. > > Any thoughts? > > Zen > > "Klaus H�rbrand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<E2Fra.49256$[email hidden]>... >> > Hi, >> > >> > I can't get it to start.. I get an "unexpected error: quitting" >> >> >> As a programmer I dealt with these things several times before to get >> my own programs running. >> >> The "unexpected error" comes from a wrong registration of the runtime >> files comdlg32.ocx and/or comctl32.ocx which are used by the GTRMod >> Launcher. They are supposed to be in the system folder, so when a >> program needs a newer version of these files it overwrites them >> there. So does the GTR installation. >> >> Obviously another program you installed earlier did not place these >> runtime files into the system folder and the GTR installation could >> not update them. Now the registry points to the older files which >> cause the unexpected error. >> >> What you can do is to change the path in the registry pointing to >> these runtime files to the system folder. Or, if you don�t dare to >> change the registry, do a search for these files on your harddisks >> and replace all of them with the ones from the system folder. >> >> This always helped. >> >> Klaus > >

Looking at the pinned threads at Simbin, it could be you have too many cars installed. Try using the gtlite.exe as well as gtrun.exe. Next use the bat file inside f1 2k2 that removes the pro veh files. Finally a car manager could be used to reduce the number of available cars to LESS than 60 dave henrie

LOL :) For the purpose of telling you for the same reason i was told..so as NOT to do it because it was illegal. I sometimes do things and then get told that was illegal....!! So in this case i was told before to stop me from ever doing it :) So what NOT to do is this. Either have a copy of Win XP including SP1 cracked.....those naughty people do actually have such a thing. Or use the available 'utilities' to alter parameters prior to SP 1 update. Neither applies to me as i have Win ME and it is bug free and runs beautifully.;-) AD

"Aidee"

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> > Neither applies to me as i have Win ME and it is bug free and runs > beautifully.;-) > > > AD >

? ! :) dave henrie

;-p AD

Hi, I finally managed to get GTR2002lite to run, after re-installing video drivers and MS Directx 9.0 (what a mod!). It remains unclear why it wasn't working before. I wish I new, because that could help me understand why I can't get the full version of GTR to run. I still get the same "unexpected error: quitting: message. Any idea why one would run, but not the other? Zen "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:xd%ra.47779$[email hidden]: > > > Klaus, > > > > I did find a older copy of each file elsewhere on the drive, and I did > > overwrite them with the version found in the systems folder as you > > suggest, but I still get the same error message. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Zen > > > > "Klaus H�rbrand" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > >> "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:<E2Fra.49256$[email hidden]>... > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I can't get it to start.. I get an "unexpected error: quitting" > >> > >> > >> As a programmer I dealt with these things several times before to get > >> my own programs running. > >> > >> The "unexpected error" comes from a wrong registration of the runtime > >> files comdlg32.ocx and/or comctl32.ocx which are used by the GTRMod > >> Launcher. They are supposed to be in the system folder, so when a > >> program needs a newer version of these files it overwrites them > >> there. So does the GTR installation. > >> > >> Obviously another program you installed earlier did not place these > >> runtime files into the system folder and the GTR installation could > >> not update them. Now the registry points to the older files which > >> cause the unexpected error. > >> > >> What you can do is to change the path in the registry pointing to > >> these runtime files to the system folder. Or, if you don�t dare to > >> change the registry, do a search for these files on your harddisks > >> and replace all of them with the ones from the system folder. > >> > >> This always helped. > >> > >> Klaus > > > > > > Looking at the pinned threads at Simbin, it could be you have too many > cars installed. Try using the gtlite.exe as well as gtrun.exe. Next use > the bat file inside f1 2k2 that removes the pro veh files. Finally a car > manager could be used to reduce the number of available cars to LESS than > 60 > dave henrie

"Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Bb_sa.78895$[email hidden]:

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> Hi, > > I finally managed to get GTR2002lite to run, after re-installing video > drivers and MS Directx 9.0 (what a mod!). It remains unclear why it > wasn't working before. I wish I new, because that could help me > understand why I can't get the full version of GTR to run. I still get > the same "unexpected error: quitting: message. > > Any idea why one would run, but not the other? > > Zen > > > >

Usually the reason is tooooooo many cars in your car folder. THe regular premenu seems to have a limit of 60 active cars. HOWEVER...The only difference between gtlite and gtr.exe is the intro movie. You are not really missing anything functionally. I wouldn't worry about it if you can get gtlite working. dave henrie

Dave, many thanks for your support throughout. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Zen" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:Bb_sa.78895$[email hidden]: > > > Hi, > > > > I finally managed to get GTR2002lite to run, after re-installing video > > drivers and MS Directx 9.0 (what a mod!). It remains unclear why it > > wasn't working before. I wish I new, because that could help me > > understand why I can't get the full version of GTR to run. I still get > > the same "unexpected error: quitting: message. > > > > Any idea why one would run, but not the other? > > > > Zen > > > > > > > > > > Usually the reason is tooooooo many cars in your car folder. THe > regular premenu seems to have a limit of 60 active cars. HOWEVER...The > only difference between gtlite and gtr.exe is the intro movie. You are

not > really missing anything functionally. > I wouldn't worry about it if you can get gtlite working. > > dave henrie