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GTR2002 brake feel question

18 posts by 10 people · 31 Dec 2002 23:53 UTC - 03 Jan 2003 01:05 UTC

Glen Pittman 31 Dec 2002 23:53 UTC#83947
I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to do this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which is assigned as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any difference. I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I like the TSW a little more, especially the pedals. I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed something to 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't find the thread I was looking for. Any input is much appreciated. Glen Pittman
I believe that your referring to a post from Haqsau, ion which he explained to me that he uses the Logitech profiler to tweak (among other things) his brake pedals settings. Of course, you'd have to switch to your MOMO pedals to have this work.... Do a message search for Haqsau, and you'll find the post. It's about a week to 10 days old. Glen Pittman wrote:
Quoted text (18 lines)> I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to do > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which is assigned > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any difference. > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I like the > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed something to > 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't find > the thread I was looking for. > > Any input is much appreciated. > > Glen Pittman
bertr 01 Jan 2003 01:43 UTC#530380
I believe that your referring to a post from Haqsau, ion which he explained to me that he uses the Logitech profiler to tweak (among other things) his brake pedals settings. Of course, you'd have to switch to your MOMO pedals to have this work.... Do a message search for Haqsau, and you'll find the post. It's about a week to 10 days old.
Quoted text (18 lines)> I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to do > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which is assigned > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any difference. > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I like the > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed something to > 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't find > the thread I was looking for. > Any input is much appreciated. > Glen Pittman
That was probably me, and I was doing this in the Logitech Wingman Profiler. It allows you to adjust an axis' range and sensitivity. I started by reducing the sensitivity, but eventually found I got better results by reducing the range. I don't think you can change the axis range in F1 2002, but you might be able to get about the same end result by tweaking the Center value for the brake axis in your player file. If that doesn't work, you might be able to do it with DXTweak2, which is a bit crude but at least DXTweak2 allows you to save and restore settings to/from files. "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to do > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which isassigned > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any difference. > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I likethe > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed somethingto
Quoted text (9 lines)> 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't find > the thread I was looking for. > > Any input is much appreciated. > > Glen Pittman > >
Haqsau 01 Jan 2003 03:00 UTC↳ reply to Haqsau#83976
Gaaaah! Now I'm having an identity crisis. That post I made was under my normal on-line name "Haqsau" rather than the absurd totally made up name I used above. ;o) "Hal Raymond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > That was probably me, and I was doing this in the Logitech WingmanProfiler. > It allows you to adjust an axis' range and sensitivity. I started by > reducing the sensitivity, but eventually found I got better results by > reducing the range. I don't think you can change the axis range in F12002, > but you might be able to get about the same end result by tweaking the > Center value for the brake axis in your player file. If that doesn'twork, > you might be able to do it with DXTweak2, which is a bit crude but atleast
Quoted text (8 lines)> DXTweak2 allows you to save and restore settings to/from files. > > > "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal > > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a > > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to
do > > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which is > assigned > > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > > > > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes anydifference. > > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I like > the > > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > > > > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changedsomething > to > > 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller > > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn'tfind
Quoted text (9 lines)> > the thread I was looking for. > > > > Any input is much appreciated. > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > >
"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Gaaaah! Now I'm having an identity crisis. That post I made was under my > normal on-line name "Haqsau" rather than the absurd totally made up name I > used above. ;o) You mean YOU are Hal? I always thought he was such a nice person.... strange isn't it? dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02
Thanks for the info. I will try the DXTweak2 program and see if I can get it. That is my biggest problem with GTR2002. I can't seem to be consistant at braking while only using about 30-40% of the travel. Glen "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (23 lines)> Gaaaah! Now I'm having an identity crisis. That post I made was under my > normal on-line name "Haqsau" rather than the absurd totally made up name I > used above. ;o) > > "Hal Raymond" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > That was probably me, and I was doing this in the Logitech Wingman > Profiler. > > It allows you to adjust an axis' range and sensitivity. I started by > > reducing the sensitivity, but eventually found I got better results by > > reducing the range. I don't think you can change the axis range in F1 > 2002, > > but you might be able to get about the same end result by tweaking the > > Center value for the brake axis in your player file. If that doesn't > work, > > you might be able to do it with DXTweak2, which is a bit crude but at > least > > DXTweak2 allows you to save and restore settings to/from files. > > > > > > "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the
pedal > > > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travela
Quoted text (9 lines)> > > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to > do > > > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which is > > assigned > > > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > > > > > > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any > difference. > > > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I
like
Quoted text (7 lines)> > the > > > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > > > > > > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed > something > > to > > > 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there
controller
Quoted text (13 lines)> > > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't > find > > > the thread I was looking for. > > > > > > Any input is much appreciated. > > > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > > > > > > > >
I have the opposite problem! Make sure all axes are set to 50% in the game itself. Leave your Logi. stuff alone. Marc "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have been noticing that my brakes lock up rather quickly in the pedal > travel when racing the GTR mod. I would like to have the pedal travel a > little more than half way before locking the tires. Is there a way to do > this? I tried changing the sensitivity for the RZ axis, which isassigned > as my brake controls, but I didn't really notice a difference. > > I am using the TSW2 wheel with a USB adapter if that makes any difference. > I have a Logitech Momo wheel here that I can connect and try, but I likethe > TSW a little more, especially the pedals. > > I remember someone stating in an earlier post that they changed somethingto
Quoted text (9 lines)> 40% to make the brakes start to lock at the point where there controller > started to get the most pressure resistance, but a quick look didn't find > the thread I was looking for. > > Any input is much appreciated. > > Glen Pittman > >
Keep an eye on the red bar in the joystick setup in the game when you press your pedals. Make sure that the bar moves up in a linear fashion from top to bottom when pressing each pedal. If the bar starts at half way or doesn't move until you've moved your pedals halfway, you might need to do some tweaking with a program like DXTweak2, but the red bars will give you a clear idea of exactly how your pedals are functioning in the game...
Yup, now you know why that name is on your "who's calling me buddy" list on GPLRank. You, Jan V., and Eldred have been my "targets". :o) That's how I got the scoop on Eldred joining the dark side. I think I gave Jan a good scare about a month ago - I passed him at Monza, and suddenly a few days later he updated and passed me again. I haven't been able to get even close to that lap time since. :o( "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZVsQ9.514609$WL3.134663@rwcrnsc54... > > > You mean YOU are Hal? I always thought he was such a niceperson....
Quoted text (10 lines)> strange isn't it? > dave henrie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02 > >
"Haqsau" wrote...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Yup, now you know why that name is on your "who's calling > me buddy" list on GPLRank. You, Jan V., and Eldred have > been my "targets". :o) That's how I got the scoop on > Eldred joining the dark side. I think I gave Jan a good > scare about a month ago - I passed him at Monza, and > suddenly a few days later he updated and passed me again. > I haven't been able to get even close to that lap time > since. :o(
Purely coincidental, I'm afraid Hal. This is the first I learn about you punching through 1m29s at Monza. Nice time though! Anyhow, forget about Monza for a while. You need to bring your other times down to a similar level, especially at a certain German venue. <g> Jan. =---
<Gulp> yes that German track is a bit of an annoyance. The Monza thing was an experiment. I convinced myself that my time was better spent learning to get down to competitive lap times at one track in one game rather than trying to learn all the tracks in all the games only moderately well. My goal is to get into the 1:27's in the Eagle and Lotus, 1:28's in the Ferrari, Brabham, and possibly Honda, and 1:29's in the BRM and Cooper. The idea was that once I knew what it took to go that fast I could learn the other tracks that much more quickly. I am right now about 0.5 to 1.0 sec. short of all of the above, but I seem to be plateaued out there lately, so perhaps it is time for some "cross training". Hmm, what would I rather do, Nurby in GPL or Donington in GTR? Decisions, decisions.... "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tEFQ9.82840$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > Purely coincidental, I'm afraid Hal. This is the first I learn about you > punching through 1m29s at Monza. Nice time though! > > Anyhow, forget about Monza for a while. You need to bring your other times > down to a similar level, especially at a certain German venue. <g> > > Jan. > =--- > >
> perhaps it is time for some "cross training". Hmm, what would I ratherdo, > Nurby in GPL or Donington in GTR? Decisions, decisions.... That's an interesting concept. Flicking between GPL, F1 2001/2, GT, N2002 etc actually *does* seem to improve my times more quickly than slogging it out in one sim. There was a time when I spent ages at Monza too but in the end I was in a mental state to physically harm anyone I met who could do 1:26s. ;)
"Andrew Williams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:auvs6c$alv1s$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > perhaps it is time for some "cross training". Hmm, what would I rather > do, > > Nurby in GPL or Donington in GTR? Decisions, decisions.... > > That's an interesting concept. Flicking between GPL, F1 2001/2, GT, N2002 > etc actually *does* seem to improve my times more quickly than slogging it > out in one sim.
Not that I've proceded with what small improvements I made, but when I did make a move in gplrank, it came after about a thousand FIA GT V3 laps. Maybe if I turn that many in GTR I can go back to GPL and knock another 10 seconds off.... dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02
"Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:av03jc$ats8l$[email hidden]... > It's weird but GPL feels easy after playing GTR 2002 and GTR 2002 feelseasy > after playing GPL... That's a good way of putting it. It feels like it all happens a bit more slowly, so it's easier to control. (both ways). Malc.
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:11:40 +1000, "Damien Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's weird but GPL feels easy after playing GTR 2002 and GTR 2002 feels easy >after playing GPL... I dunno if that's weird or not, as I've been feeling the same way. Same with N2002, I didn't play it for almost 6 months and immediately went from GTR to the Glen and set a PB. Jason
LOL same here. "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:11:40 +1000, "Damien Smith" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > I dunno if that's weird or not, as I've been feeling the same way. > Same with N2002, I didn't play it for almost 6 months and immediately > went from GTR to the Glen and set a PB. > > Jason

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