Re: Should I get F1 2002, just to play GTR 2002?

SSAISS wrote: > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? Yes. If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's flier for $14.99. -jde

Hello again, Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? All the reviews, here and on websites, are drooling over the mod, but since I have copies of GPL, GP3 (hope it isn't sacrilege to mention those two in the same sentence ;) ), and F1 Racing Simulation (not too bad), I don't really need another F1 game/sim for F1 sake. Are there any other really good...i.e. GTR 2002 caliber non-oval-track-racing mods out there for F1 2002? TIA Sean BTW, I'm getting a fast download of GTR 2002 from ....fileplanet of all places. The server is: http://xferla4.fileplanet.com GoZilla download manager helped too.

Yes. Think of it as buying GTR2002 and getting F1 2002 free... But remember to drop by the GTR2002 webpage and make a donation ;-) "SSAISS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asio7o$ck5$[email hidden]... > Hello again, > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? Allthe > reviews, here and on websites, are drooling over the mod, but since I have > copies of GPL, GP3 (hope it isn't sacrilege to mention those two in thesame > sentence ;) ), and F1 Racing Simulation (not too bad), I don't really need > another F1 game/sim for F1 sake. Are there any other really good...i.e.GTR

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> 2002 caliber non-oval-track-racing mods out there for F1 2002? TIA > > Sean > > BTW, I'm getting a fast download of GTR 2002 from ....fileplanet of all > places. The server is: http://xferla4.fileplanet.com GoZilla download > manager helped too. > > > >

And get the Alfa mod for free too....dont bother with f1 2002...:) AD "Nick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asioqi$rj0e3$[email hidden]... > Yes. Think of it as buying GTR2002 and getting F1 2002 free... Butremember

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> to drop by the GTR2002 webpage and make a donation ;-) > > "SSAISS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:asio7o$ck5$[email hidden]... > > Hello again, > > > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? All > the > > reviews, here and on websites, are drooling over the mod, but since I

have > > copies of GPL, GP3 (hope it isn't sacrilege to mention those two in the > same > > sentence ;) ), and F1 Racing Simulation (not too bad), I don't reallyneed

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> > another F1 game/sim for F1 sake. Are there any other really good...i.e. > GTR > > 2002 caliber non-oval-track-racing mods out there for F1 2002? TIA > > > > Sean > > > > BTW, I'm getting a fast download of GTR 2002 from ....fileplanet of all > > places. The server is: http://xferla4.fileplanet.com GoZilla download > > manager helped too. > > > > > > > > > >

You very definitely should! I'm even getting a new PC for it! :) Gerry

"SSAISS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asio7o$ck5$[email hidden]... > Hello again, > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? Allthe > reviews, here and on websites, are drooling over the mod, but since I have > copies of GPL, GP3 (hope it isn't sacrilege to mention those two in thesame > sentence ;) ), and F1 Racing Simulation (not too bad), I don't really need > another F1 game/sim for F1 sake. Are there any other really good...i.e.GTR

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> 2002 caliber non-oval-track-racing mods out there for F1 2002? TIA > > Sean > > BTW, I'm getting a fast download of GTR 2002 from ....fileplanet of all > places. The server is: http://xferla4.fileplanet.com GoZilla download > manager helped too. > > > >

Yes.... No....... Maybe......... Basically decide for yourself as you are the only one that truly knows what you enjoy and what you don't... - Isotrip�

I agree! GTR 2002 is definitely worth the price of F1 2002, even if you never actually run the F1 cars and get it only for the GT cars and tracks! Alison On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 17:36:03 +0000, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote: >You very definitely should! I'm even getting a new PC for it! :) > >Gerry Alison From: [email hidden] Reply-To: [email hidden] Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me. http://eaglewoman.maximumspeed.net

"SSAISS" wrote... > Hello again, > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play > GTR 2002? Don't be silly, you should be on your way to the store right now. Jan. =---

Anyone try it online yet? How many players it handle ok? What about issues of cheats online, is there any checking to handle this? "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qJ6H9.33300$[email hidden]...

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> "SSAISS" wrote... > > Hello again, > > > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play > > GTR 2002? > > Don't be silly, you should be on your way to the store right now. > > Jan. > =--- > >

<SOB!!> <SNIFF! SNIFF!> Now why'd you have to go and bring that up... It is absolutely horrible from everything I have seen. "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gW6H9.222498$[email hidden]... > Anyone try it online yet? How many players it handle ok? > What about issues of cheats online, is there any checking to handle this? >

:-( "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G07H9.13154$[email hidden]...

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> <SOB!!> > > <SNIFF! SNIFF!> > > Now why'd you have to go and bring that up... > > It is absolutely horrible from everything I have seen. > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gW6H9.222498$[email hidden]... > > Anyone try it online yet? How many players it handle ok? > > What about issues of cheats online, is there any checking to handle

this? > > > > >

Schooner wrote: > > :-( Cheer up, it's great on a LAN. :) Gerry

Ah, well that's nice but useless. I'll give it a try single player but stick with NR 2002 for online. "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Schooner wrote: > > > > :-( > > Cheer up, it's great on a LAN. :) > > Gerry

It's definitely a must have in spite of the multiplayer shortcomings. I never play n2002 offline, for the most part I hate racing with the ai. This morning I sat in front of my computer chasing ai controlled porsche's and lemme tell you, it's the most fun I have had in I don't know when..... "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ny7H9.222512$[email hidden]...

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> Ah, well that's nice but useless. > I'll give it a try single player but stick with NR 2002 for online. > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Schooner wrote: > > > > > > :-( > > > > Cheer up, it's great on a LAN. :) > > > > Gerry > >

> If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's > flier for $14.99. Just wondering...can anybody confirm whether this is true? (The 14.99 price at Circuit City, that is). I checked their website and our local flier and couldn't find it listed in either, but I think I'll take a drive over to pick up a copy if, in fact, it's for sale at that price. Thanks

Alison: I've been reading all the stuff about this for a couple days now, but your word on the subject convinced me. I just hope it doesn't take TOO much time away from my GPL... :)

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's > > flier for $14.99. > ><SNIP> Can't confirm that price but I just got from CompUsa for $19.99 which is not a sale price. Bob

Considering F12002 is reduced in price, yes!!!!!! I donated 10 pounds to the cause as well as paying full price for F12002 when it first came out and I still got a bargain! We need to support all sims, especially the work of our own brilliant and dedicated community. Marc "SSAISS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asio7o$ck5$[email hidden]... > Hello again, > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? Allthe > reviews, here and on websites, are drooling over the mod, but since I have > copies of GPL, GP3 (hope it isn't sacrilege to mention those two in thesame > sentence ;) ), and F1 Racing Simulation (not too bad), I don't really need > another F1 game/sim for F1 sake. Are there any other really good...i.e.GTR

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> 2002 caliber non-oval-track-racing mods out there for F1 2002? TIA > > Sean > > BTW, I'm getting a fast download of GTR 2002 from ....fileplanet of all > places. The server is: http://xferla4.fileplanet.com GoZilla download > manager helped too. > > > >

I just got a copy at Bestbuy for $20. I don't know about Circuitcity. Sean

Same here. Her recommendation, as well as that of everyone else convinced me to get it. Sean "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Alison: > I've been reading all the stuff about this for a couple days now, but > your word on the subject convinced me. I just hope it doesn't take > TOO much time away from my GPL... :)

Thanks for all of the recommendations. I just got back from Bestbuy, where I found a copy for $20. Looking forward to firing it up later today. Gotta do some chores first... :( Sean

"Marc Collins" wrote... > Considering F12002 is reduced in price, yes!!!!!! I donated > 10 pounds to the cause as well as paying full price for > F12002 when it first came out and I still got a bargain! > > We need to support all sims, especially the work of our own > brilliant and dedicated community. What cause are you referring too? Is it possible to contribute (financially) to the SBDT? Or have they nominated a charity? Jan. =---

http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php Top centre of the screen. Marc "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:o4bH9.34079$[email hidden]...

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> "Marc Collins" wrote... > > Considering F12002 is reduced in price, yes!!!!!! I donated > > 10 pounds to the cause as well as paying full price for > > F12002 when it first came out and I still got a bargain! > > > > We need to support all sims, especially the work of our own > > brilliant and dedicated community. > > What cause are you referring too? Is it possible to contribute

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> to the SBDT? Or have they nominated a charity? > > Jan. > =--- > > > >

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> > Considering F12002 is reduced in price, yes!!!!!! I donated > > 10 pounds to the cause as well as paying full price for > > F12002 when it first came out and I still got a bargain! > > > > We need to support all sims, especially the work of our own > > brilliant and dedicated community. > > What cause are you referring too? Is it possible to contribute

(financially) > to the SBDT? Or have they nominated a charity? They have a 'Paypal' button of their web site which it says you can contribute to, to help with server costs.

"Damien Smith" wrote... > > > <snip> > They have a 'Paypal' button of their web site which > it says you can contribute to, to help with server > costs. Cool, I'll update my credit card info with Paypal and get right on it. Jan. =---

The Black Cat =^..^= <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > your word on the subject convinced me. I just hope it doesn't take > TOO much time away from my GPL... :) LOL this is one of the reasons I'm staying away from playing it (I did download it). Plus my performance is kind of crap, which shocks me, as I have a AMD Athlon 2100+ XP, 512mb RAM DDR, Geforce4 Ti4400 128mb . Even with that spec at 800x600x16 (ICK!) I'm seeing max framerate of about 40, with dips bellow 30 at times!!

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> <snip> > LOL this is one of the reasons I'm staying away from > playing it (I did download it). Plus my performance > is kind of crap, which shocks me, as I have a AMD > Athlon 2100+ XP, 512mb RAM DDR, Geforce4 Ti4400 > 128mb . Even with that spec at 800x600x16 (ICK!) > I'm seeing max framerate of about 40, with dips > bellow 30 at times!!

Err... something wrong there. XP2000+ with GF3 Ti200 here (same RAM) and I'm getting 45-70fps at 1024x768x32 with 16 cars shown (was 32-50fps with 21 shown). Jan. =---

Black Cat, We run in the same GPL FD league, and all I can tell you is that I'm spending equal time between GPL and GTR2002. It's just that good. Joel Willstein "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner till the time you brake for the next turn , then you have enough horsepower." Mark Donohue "The Black Cat =^..^=" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Alison: > I've been reading all the stuff about this for a couple days now, but > your word on the subject convinced me. I just hope it doesn't take > TOO much time away from my GPL... :)

Something VERY wrong there....you should look to sort that out mate. Just put my GF2 MX 400 spare card in to check out the 'lower' end performance. I have xp 2100+ o/c,9700 Pro,512 DDR 2100 and i said yesterday it is the best looking yet with all on full/max. So with just the 9700 Pro out and the GF2 mx400 in.... Everything is on Full or the odd thing is on Medium(silly things like skidmarks,dust etc etc) I have 35 fps on the line with full 36 cars on grid...drops to 21 when amongst them...that is 1280 x 960 x 16. Up to 43fps in open track.... If you have a Ti 4400 giving the same performance then something is amiss... AD p.s 30.82 drivers onWin XP...10% o/c on MX400

On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 01:23:59 GMT, "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I'm spending equal time between GPL and GTR2002. It's just that good. I don't have enough hours in the day to get away with that -- could I borrow a couple hundred minutes that you're not using? :) But in any case, I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the game from Amazon and we'll see how it works out...

You should be getting much better fps. AMD1600/512RAM DDR/GF4 Ti4400, running 1280x1024x32-bit and I see 30fps start of race and 40 fps in the pack. Other settings are 20 cars visible, all graphics high except for shadows. Your cpu should push these numbers to 40 start and 50+ during the race. What video drivers? I'm running the 40.72's and IIRC my 3D config test was 37M triangles. -- Joe M. "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The Black Cat =^..^= <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > your word on the subject convinced me. I just hope it doesn't take > > TOO much time away from my GPL... :) > > LOL this is one of the reasons I'm staying away from playing it (I did > download it). Plus my performance is kind of crap, which shocks me, as I > have a AMD Athlon 2100+ XP, 512mb RAM DDR, Geforce4 Ti4400 128mb . Even > with that spec at 800x600x16 (ICK!) I'm seeing max framerate of about 40, > with dips bellow 30 at times!!

Yes! Best game ever! (racing) =[O-)]

Aside from the usual cautions about not overdoing it with AA and Aniso, check your settings for shadows in the game's graphics menu. Running shadows on full really seems to kill the FPS for some reason, even sitting still in cockpit view with no other cars in sight. Dropping them a notch or two really helped get me over the hump fps-wise on my XP1800/Ti4400, although the AI cars don't have shadows any more, which is too bad. SB "Aidee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asjm23$ack$[email hidden]...

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> Something VERY wrong there....you should look to sort that out mate. > > Just put my GF2 MX 400 spare card in to check out the 'lower' end > performance. > > I have xp 2100+ o/c,9700 Pro,512 DDR 2100 and i said yesterday it is the > best looking yet with all on full/max. > > So with just the 9700 Pro out and the GF2 mx400 in.... > > Everything is on Full or the odd thing is on Medium(silly things like > skidmarks,dust etc etc) > > I have 35 fps on the line with full 36 cars on grid...drops to 21 when > amongst them...that is 1280 x 960 x 16. > > Up to 43fps in open track.... > > If you have a Ti 4400 giving the same performance then something is

amiss... > > AD > > p.s 30.82 drivers onWin XP...10% o/c on MX400 > >

"Alison Hine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I agree! GTR 2002 is definitely worth the price of F1 2002, even if you > never actually run the F1 cars and get it only for the GT cars and > tracks! > > Alison btw....a couple of nights back, at Valencia, I think it was my blue Viper that clouted your silver Porche. Muchos Apologies. sorry dave henrie

Folks it will never equal Papy for sheer numbers, but you can run 6 to 8 with a good adsl host IF all users follow a few simple rules. FIRST: EVeryone connect at 56k. Broadbanders...too. even the host. This limits the amount of data sent and cuts down on lost packets and lag problems in general. 2nd: There is a limit to how many a certain host can serve. If everything is fine with 5 and then a 6th joins...you gotta cut somebody loose if the connection goes bad. 3rd. IF somebody has a huge commercial line, like the RSDG server, you can have up to 16 with minimal lag. 4th. Like I said...it's not equal to Papy, but it's better than I expected it to be. dave henrie "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Lx7H9.13172$[email hidden]... > It's definitely a must have in spite of the multiplayer shortcomings. I > never play n2002 offline, for the most part I hate racing with the ai.This

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> morning I sat in front of my computer chasing ai controlled porsche's and > lemme tell you, it's the most fun I have had in I don't know when..... > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ny7H9.222512$[email hidden]... > > Ah, well that's nice but useless. > > I'll give it a try single player but stick with NR 2002 for online. > > > > "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Schooner wrote: > > > > > > > > :-( > > > > > > Cheer up, it's great on a LAN. :) > > > > > > Gerry > > > > > > >

"SSAISS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asio7o$ck5$[email hidden]... > Hello again, > > Just had to ask....should I get F1 2002 just to play GTR 2002? No absolutely not. Do NOT get it JUST for GTR. There's the ALfa mod, the SSM LeMans mod(full of nasty yellow chevy's) a BMW M3 mod. 2 or 3 historical F1 mods. A CART mod. check out this site for a hint of whats comming by next spring. http://www.geocities.com/knarf128/ dave henrie

> No absolutely not. Do NOT get it JUST for GTR. There's the ALfa mod, > the SSM LeMans mod(full of nasty yellow chevy's) a BMW M3 mod. 2 or 3 > historical F1 mods. A CART mod. check out this site for a hint of whats > comming by next spring. Well, I haven't tried the Alfa or BMW mods yet (there's only so many hours in a day) but as for the newer ones, boy have they got a tough act to follow...

"Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:POcH9.106491$[email hidden]... > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit acorner > till the time you brake for the next turn > , then you have enough horsepower." > Mark Donohue I bet it's that quote that inspired the Marcos. ;) Milhouse

SS wrote: >>If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's >>flier for $14.99. > > Just wondering...can anybody confirm whether this is true? (The 14.99 price > at Circuit City, that is). The blurb in the flier was I believe for all (or at least the selection pictured) EA PC titles for $14.99. I honestly didn't study it that closely since I already had F1 2002. :) Sorry for the teaser without the info to back it up... -jde

our circuit city had f1 2002 foe $39.99 Best Buy had it for $19.99 "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > SS wrote: > >>If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's > >>flier for $14.99. > > > > Just wondering...can anybody confirm whether this is true? (The 14.99price

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> > at Circuit City, that is). > > The blurb in the flier was I believe for all (or at least the selection > pictured) EA PC titles for $14.99. I honestly didn't study it that > closely since I already had F1 2002. :) > > Sorry for the teaser without the info to back it up... > > -jde >

> The blurb in the flier was I believe for all (or at least the selection > pictured) EA PC titles for $14.99. I honestly didn't study it that > closely since I already had F1 2002. :) > > Sorry for the teaser without the info to back it up... :-) No problem...19.99 at a few places, which seems a bargain.

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> "Joel A. Willstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:POcH9.106491$[email hidden]... > > > "If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a > corner > > till the time you brake for the next turn > > , then you have enough horsepower." > > Mark Donohue > > I bet it's that quote that inspired the Marcos. ;) > > Milhouse

Can-Am, my friend - *has* to be Can-Am. Can I put my vote in for Can-Am as the *next* mod by SBDT after F1-77? Kendt

I saw a copy of Nascar 4 in Target for $45 about a month or two ago. Was it P.T. Barnum who said there is a sucker born every minute? "Steve Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DprH9.234762$%[email hidden]...

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> our circuit city had f1 2002 foe $39.99 > Best Buy had it for $19.99 > "J.D. Ellis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > SS wrote: > > >>If you're in the States, I believe Circuit City has it in this week's > > >>flier for $14.99. > > > > > > Just wondering...can anybody confirm whether this is true? (The 14.99 > price > > > at Circuit City, that is). > > > > The blurb in the flier was I believe for all (or at least the selection > > pictured) EA PC titles for $14.99. I honestly didn't study it that > > closely since I already had F1 2002. :) > > > > Sorry for the teaser without the info to back it up... > > > > -jde > > > >

"jon" wrote... > I saw a copy of Nascar 4 in Target for $45 about a month > or two ago. Was it P.T. Barnum who said there is a sucker > born every minute? Actually, don't know where I got this from, but, apparently, he never said it. Jan. =---

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N1xH9.35554$[email hidden]... > "jon" wrote... > > I saw a copy of Nascar 4 in Target for $45 about a month > > or two ago. Was it P.T. Barnum who said there is a sucker > > born every minute? > > Actually, don't know where I got this from, but, apparently, he neversaid > it. > > Jan. > =--- LOL, kind of ironic that everybody believes he did...

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Aside from the usual cautions about not overdoing it with AA and > Aniso, check your settings for shadows in the game's graphics menu. > Running shadows on full really seems to kill the FPS for some reason, I'm not even running full details in the game! Let's see, I'm using the 40.72 drivers, no FSAA. Oh, I do have "Force 8 sample Anisotropic Filtering" enabled. Does this really cause such a big performance hit? I will have to turn it off and see. I know I should be getting much better performance so it is bothering me, but all other games run great.

:) Had to ponder that for a minute... "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:asm72c$s86ke$[email hidden]...

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> "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:N1xH9.35554$[email hidden]... > > "jon" wrote... > > > I saw a copy of Nascar 4 in Target for $45 about a month > > > or two ago. Was it P.T. Barnum who said there is a sucker > > > born every minute? > > > > Actually, don't know where I got this from, but, apparently, he never > said > > it. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > LOL, kind of ironic that everybody believes he did... >

<SNIP>> > Can-Am, my friend - *has* to be Can-Am. > > Can I put my vote in for Can-Am as the *next* mod by SBDT after F1-77? > > Kendt > Yup Can-Am definitely, I can almost hear those big blocks now. Bob

<SNIP>> Yup Can-Am definitely, I can almost hear those big blocks now. Bob

For what it's worth, the 40.72's were crap for me(on 98SE); buggy with lousy IQ. I had gone back to the 30.82's, but just loaded the newest 41.09's last night and got a nice bump in speed and IQ, with no bugs seen as of yet. Best Nvidia drivers I've tried to date. 8X aniso filtering will definitely impact your framerate. Try lower AF settings, 16 bit color, and/or different combo's of AA and resolution. AA is a big hit, particularly at 4X and above. 4X works very well in OpenGL with NR2002 and GPL, but it's a killer in F1-2002 with D3D. You can often get better FPS by going as high as 16X12 and leaving AF off. You just have to twiddle with it until you find your happy medium. SB "Ped Xing" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > Aside from the usual cautions about not overdoing it with AA and > > Aniso, check your settings for shadows in the game's graphics menu. > > Running shadows on full really seems to kill the FPS for some reason, > > I'm not even running full details in the game! > > Let's see, I'm using the 40.72 drivers, no FSAA. Oh, I do have "Force 8 > sample Anisotropic Filtering" enabled. Does this really cause such a big > performance hit? I will have to turn it off and see. > > I know I should be getting much better performance so it is bothering me, > but all other games run great.

Make that 3 votes for Can-Am. Rudest, nastiest, most brutal pavement-ripping sports cars ever. ;o) "RDS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > <SNIP>> > > Can-Am, my friend - *has* to be Can-Am. > > > > Can I put my vote in for Can-Am as the *next* mod by SBDT afterF1-77?

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> > > > Kendt > > > > Yup Can-Am definitely, I can almost hear those big blocks now. > > Bob

Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP? I've got a GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a PowerLeap adapter). I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002 occasionally). So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better. Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU upgrade? 1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one that runs on a 100 mhz FSB. Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now. Thanks! Alison On Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:34:11 -0500, "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>For what it's worth, the 40.72's were crap for me(on 98SE); buggy with lousy >IQ. I had gone back to the 30.82's, but just loaded the newest 41.09's last >night and got a nice bump in speed and IQ, with no bugs seen as of yet. >Best Nvidia drivers I've tried to date. > >8X aniso filtering will definitely impact your framerate. Try lower AF >settings, 16 bit color, and/or different combo's of AA and resolution. AA >is a big hit, particularly at 4X and above. 4X works very well in OpenGL >with NR2002 and GPL, but it's a killer in F1-2002 with D3D. You can often >get better FPS by going as high as 16X12 and leaving AF off. You just have >to twiddle with it until you find your happy medium. > >SB

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> Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP? I've got a > GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a > PowerLeap adapter). > > I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002 > occasionally). So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce > driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better. > > Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU > upgrade? 1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one > that runs on a 100 mhz FSB. Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR > memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now. > > Thanks! > > Alison > > [email hidden] www.alison.hine.net www.alisonnic.com www.vroc.net > ________ > / \ > _/__________\_ > /_ \ '====' / _\ > |(_) ____ (_)| > |\o [] (____) [] o/| > | ---______--- | > '---' '---'

Hi Ali, I am using a PIII @ 1G, 512M pc133, and a GeForce2 GTS/Pro w 64m, and GTR2002 runs pretty well for me....I'm also using a tweaker for the vid card to o'clock it some(core to 235mhz, memory to 400 mhz) and under d3d options, mipmapping is set to "Blend".....what I found, which makes no sense, is that there is no fps penalty for higher resolutions, I found this to be the same with GPL and N2002 as well. 1600x1200 x16 bit @ 60 hz produces nice graphics at 50-60 fps, which is plenty for smooth feel, but most graphics options are set to low, and of course, no AA or anisotropic. If I leave all other settings alone, and redo 3D setup at 640 or 800, I get no higher fps as a result,and these low rez's with either AA or aniso kill frames......so far, my best all around setup is 1600x1200 as described. PS ver28.32 drivers for the card, and Win XP Pro ^^^^^^I swiped the above from a previous post of mine, it's all still true, as to your driver question, I used the 23.11v drivers previously on this rig, and saw no real improvement with the 28.32's, I might just have to revert back and try them again. As far as upgrades go, you should NEVER take upgrade advice from me, unless you're spending someone else's money. One last thing, THANKS again for the Sweet Red Candy setups, they made GPL come alive for me and really got me hooked, and in a previous post someone else mentioned that you were probably the one person who could get the net code in GTR worked out to make it actually usable......no pressure or anything :^) Ed

Alison Hine <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP? I've got a > GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in > a PowerLeap adapter). > > I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002 > occasionally). So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce > driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better.

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_41.09

"Ed White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:G39J9.26314$[email hidden]...

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> > "Alison Hine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP? I've got a > > GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a > > PowerLeap adapter). > > > > I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002 > > occasionally). So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce > > driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better. > > > > Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU > > upgrade? 1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one > > that runs on a 100 mhz FSB. Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR > > memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Alison > > > > [email hidden] www.alison.hine.net www.alisonnic.com www.vroc.net

Alison, i just built a system recently for pretty cheap. You can get a motherboard for an Athlon XP that will use SDRAM. I got the Gigabyte GA7-ZXE for $57 and an Athlon 1800+ for $74, it works great, and you can just drop your SDRAM right in. (and pick up 256 megs more for around 30 bucks) By the way I used tcwo.com which is in the top 10 on reseller ratings. (i live near them so i went and picked it up)

"Alison Hine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Does anyone know what GeForce drivers are best on WinXP? I've got a > GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a > PowerLeap adapter). I like the 21.83 drivers. The GF2 doesn't really benefit from the latest drivers much. They are optimized for the GF3 and GF4.

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> Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU > upgrade? 1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one > that runs on a 100 mhz FSB. Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR > memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now. > > Thanks! > > Alison

I use to have a Celeron 450 a year ago. I bought a K7S5A plus an Athlon. This mobo, can use DDR as well as my old SDR SDRAM. Just plugged in my old HD, video, etc. and that was it. I'm sure it's much cheaper now. You might even see combo deals for the K7S5A+AthlonXP1700 for under $100. Plus with this setup you can upgrade up to an AthlonXP 2400+ and use DDR in the future. -- karkrazy AT softhome DOT net http://karkrazy.m4driving.sm

> I need to be able to run both GPL and GTR2002 (and Papy N2002 > occasionally). So far I've just been using the default XP GeForce > driver, and it works ok, but I'm sure there's something better. Go to www.nvidia.com download the latest official driver (WHQL) for XP (40.xx) - the new drivers are usually much faster than the XP default one!

> Go to www.nvidia.com download the latest official driver (WHQL) for XP > (40.xx) - the new drivers are usually much faster than the XP default > one! Very true. The default GeForce driver supplied with Windows XP is exceptionally slow and doesn't support OpenGL.

On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:52:24 GMT, Alison Hine <[email hidden]> wrote something like this: >GeForce2 Ultra in an Asus P2B with 256 mb SDRAM and 1 GHz Celeron (in a >PowerLeap adapter).<snip> >Also, any suggestions as to what would be the most cost effective CPU >upgrade? 1.4 GHz Celerons are cheap ($50) but it seems hard to find one >that runs on a 100 mhz FSB. Upgrade to a killer mobo, Athlon, and DDR >memory would be wonderful, but it's a bit beyond my finances right now. All 1.4GHz Celerons run at 100MHz FSB, but your motherboard doesn't support the new Celerons with Tualatin core... -- - Igor -

Has anyone seen a really good F1 2002 price in Canada? Joe62