GTR2002 and New Videocard

Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? Thanks!

Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? Thanks!

Run the 3d setup from within F12002, and let the game continue. Exit F12002 and then run GTR2002. It should now skip the setup part and take you right into the GTR game. "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > Thanks! > > >

Start F1 2002 and configure it. Then take the lines from the config file from the line under Grid Size= thru vbstrategy=1 and copy them. Go to gtr2002 config and delete same lines and paste the ones from f12002 config. Everything should work fine MILO "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > Thanks! > > >

After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know what kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same card but I want to know what to expect first. Lee "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > Thanks! > > >

Well, keep in mind that this is without doing much tweaking, and no overclocking. 3DConfig reported something like 55 Million triangles -- almost double what it reported with my Radeon 8500LE. In GTR 2002 itself, I get around 70-75 FPS in a test session and around 40 FPS in a race with 14 opponents, with me at the back of the grid. It runs VERY smoothly. My vidcard's graphic settings for D3D are: 4X AA and 8X AF at 1024x768 - 32bit color. My system is an Athlon 1700XP (not overclocked) using Win98SE and the new Catalyst 3.1 drivers.. 3DMark 2001 reports a score of around 11,500 - a good 3,000 more than with my 8500LE. Another bonus is that I can now run the road courses in NR2003 (but that may have worked with the old vidcard and the new Catalyst drivers, as well -- I dunno). Hope that this gives you some idea..... 8-) Bert LeeLizz wrote:

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> After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know what > kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same card but > I want to know what to expect first. > > Lee > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after > > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, > > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust > > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > > > Thanks! > > > > > >

Well, keep in mind that this is without doing much tweaking, and no overclocking. 3DConfig reported something like 55 Million triangles -- almost double what it reported with my Radeon 8500LE. In GTR 2002 itself, I get around 70-75 FPS in a test session and around 40 FPS in a race with 14 opponents, with me at the back of the grid. It runs VERY smoothly. My vidcard's graphic settings for D3D are: 4X AA and 8X AF at 1024x768 - 32bit color. My system is an Athlon 1700XP (not overclocked) using Win98SE and the new Catalyst 3.1 drivers.. 3DMark 2001 reports a score of around 11,500 - a good 3,000 more than with my 8500LE. Another bonus is that I can now run the road courses in NR2003 (but that may have worked with the old vidcard and the new Catalyst drivers, as well -- I dunno). Hope that this gives you some idea..... 8-) Bert

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> After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know what > kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same card but > I want to know what to expect first. > Lee > > Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, after > > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load F1-2002, > > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what adjust > > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > Thanks!

Cool!!!!!! The only prob is now I see that the athlon 2400+ has dropped down more than 100 bucks to 2 something. I have a 1800+ and Radeon 8500. What should it be? Lee "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, keep in mind that this is without doing much tweaking, and no > overclocking. 3DConfig reported something like 55 Million triangles --almost > double what it reported with my Radeon 8500LE. In GTR 2002 itself, I get > around 70-75 FPS in a test session and around 40 FPS in a race with 14 > opponents, with me at the back of the grid. It runs VERY smoothly. > > My vidcard's graphic settings for D3D are: 4X AA and 8X AF at 1024x768 -32bit > color. > > My system is an Athlon 1700XP (not overclocked) using Win98SE and the new > Catalyst 3.1 drivers.. 3DMark 2001 reports a score of around 11,500 - agood > 3,000 more than with my 8500LE. Another bonus is that I can now run theroad > courses in NR2003 (but that may have worked with the old vidcard and thenew

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> Catalyst drivers, as well -- I dunno). > > Hope that this gives you some idea..... 8-) > > Bert > > > > LeeLizz wrote: > > > After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know

what > > kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same cardbut

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> > I want to know what to expect first. > > > > Lee > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > > > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up,

after > > > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > > > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will loadF1-2002, > > > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or whatadjust

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> > > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > >

Whoops -- Gotta revise some of my numbers. First off the 11500 (or thereabouts) in 3DMark2001SE was with AA and AF TURNED OFF. With AA at 4X and AF at 8X, my FPS in GTR2002 Test Session is in the low 40's. The interesting thing about it is that my FPS in a race with 14 opponents (same graphics set-up) yields about the same FPS. Not much of a hit at all between Test Session and Race. In any event, no matter what the FPS is, it runs really smooth. (Note that in replays, the FPS is reported around the low 20's, but it still runs smoothly. I think that the FPS isn't being reported acccurately for some reason). I've bought an AthlonXP2100+ (about $93 at NewEgg), but haven't gotten it installed becaise of problems upgarding my BIOS. Got a new BIOS chip coming in a few days, so hopefully I'll have that problem resolved. Anyways, you might want to consider the 2100 instead of the 2400. In terms of its overclockability, they say that the 2100 can be made to perfrom on par with a 2600 in some cases. AFAIK, the 2100 is the most bang for the buck at the present time. Save some $$$ and buy a new CPU and a new vidcard. 8-) Hope that this updated info helps.... Good Luck with your choice. Bert LeeLizz wrote:

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> Cool!!!!!! > > The only prob is now I see that the athlon 2400+ has dropped down more than > 100 bucks to 2 something. I have a 1800+ and Radeon 8500. What should it > be? > > Lee > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well, keep in mind that this is without doing much tweaking, and no > > overclocking. 3DConfig reported something like 55 Million triangles -- > almost > > double what it reported with my Radeon 8500LE. In GTR 2002 itself, I get > > around 70-75 FPS in a test session and around 40 FPS in a race with 14 > > opponents, with me at the back of the grid. It runs VERY smoothly. > > > > My vidcard's graphic settings for D3D are: 4X AA and 8X AF at 1024x768 - > 32bit > > color. > > > > My system is an Athlon 1700XP (not overclocked) using Win98SE and the new > > Catalyst 3.1 drivers.. 3DMark 2001 reports a score of around 11,500 - a > good > > 3,000 more than with my 8500LE. Another bonus is that I can now run the > road > > courses in NR2003 (but that may have worked with the old vidcard and the > new > > Catalyst drivers, as well -- I dunno). > > > > Hope that this gives you some idea..... 8-) > > > > Bert > > > > > > > > LeeLizz wrote: > > > > > After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know > what > > > kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same card > but > > > I want to know what to expect first. > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > "BRH @attbi.com>" <"bertrh<no-spam> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > > > > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, > after > > > > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > > > > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load > F1-2002, > > > > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what > adjust > > > > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Whoops -- Gotta revise some of my numbers. First off the 11500 (or thereabouts) in 3DMark2001SE was with AA and AF TURNED OFF. With AA at 4X and AF at 8X, my FPS in GTR2002 Test Session is in the low 40's. The interesting thing about it is that my FPS in a race with 14 opponents (same graphics set-up) yields about the same FPS. Not much of a hit at all between Test Session and Race. In any event, no matter what the FPS is, it runs really smooth. (Note that in replays, the FPS is reported around the low 20's, but it still runs smoothly. I think that the FPS isn't being reported acccurately for some reason). I've bought an AthlonXP2100+ (about $93 at NewEgg), but haven't gotten it installed becaise of problems upgarding my BIOS. Got a new BIOS chip coming in a few days, so hopefully I'll have that problem resolved. Anyways, you might want to consider the 2100 instead of the 2400. In terms of its overclockability, they say that the 2100 can be made to perfrom on par with a 2600 in some cases. AFAIK, the 2100 is the most bang for the buck at the present time. Save some $$$ and buy a new CPU and a new vidcard. 8-) Hope that this updated info helps.... Good Luck with your choice. Bert

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> Cool!!!!!! > The only prob is now I see that the athlon 2400+ has dropped down more than > 100 bucks to 2 something. I have a 1800+ and Radeon 8500. What should it > be? > Lee > > Well, keep in mind that this is without doing much tweaking, and no > > overclocking. 3DConfig reported something like 55 Million triangles -- > almost > > double what it reported with my Radeon 8500LE. In GTR 2002 itself, I get > > around 70-75 FPS in a test session and around 40 FPS in a race with 14 > > opponents, with me at the back of the grid. It runs VERY smoothly. > > My vidcard's graphic settings for D3D are: 4X AA and 8X AF at 1024x768 - > 32bit > > color. > > My system is an Athlon 1700XP (not overclocked) using Win98SE and the new > > Catalyst 3.1 drivers.. 3DMark 2001 reports a score of around 11,500 - a > good > > 3,000 more than with my 8500LE. Another bonus is that I can now run the > road > > courses in NR2003 (but that may have worked with the old vidcard and the > new > > Catalyst drivers, as well -- I dunno). > > Hope that this gives you some idea..... 8-) > > Bert > > > After you've done the 3dconfig again and played for a bit let us know > what > > > kind of framerates you're getting. Thinking about getting the same card > but > > > I want to know what to expect first. > > > Lee > > > > Just installed my new Radeon 9700 Pro [apparently successfully 8-)], > > > > and would like to try out GTR2002. However, when I start her up, > after > > > > the Pre-Game menu, I get brought to the dreaded 3D Setup screen. Past > > > > expereince has shown me that continuing on from here will load > F1-2002, > > > > instead of GTR2002. How do I avoid this from happening, or what > adjust > > > > ments do I need to make to have GTR 2002 load again? > > > > Thanks!

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> > I've bought an AthlonXP2100+ (about $93 at NewEgg), but haven't gotten > it installed becaise of problems upgarding my BIOS. Got a new BIOS > chip coming in a few days, so hopefully I'll have that problem > resolved. Anyways, you might want to consider the 2100 instead of the > 2400. In terms of its overclockability, they say that the 2100 can be > made to perfrom on par with a 2600 in some cases. AFAIK, the 2100 is > the most bang for the buck at the present time. Save some $$$ and buy > a new CPU and a new vidcard. 8-) > > Hope that this updated info helps.... > > Good Luck with your choice. > Bert >

Keep in mind there are TWO versions of the XP2100+ A Palomino and a Thoroughbred. One costs a little more than the other and probably is the one which is overclockable...which is which? I can never keep them straight... I honestly don't know. I can barely keep my xp2100+ cool with the stock fan...I use my trusty 12 inch desktop rotating fan for extra cooling. dave henrie

The latest and greatest version is the Thoroughbred 'B'. It does cost a few $$ more -- as I said, it's about $93 at NewEgg at the present time. That's the version with the unlocked multiplier (ie - easier to overclock). Dave Henrie wrote:

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> BRH < > > > > I've bought an AthlonXP2100+ (about $93 at NewEgg), but haven't gotten > > it installed becaise of problems upgarding my BIOS. Got a new BIOS > > chip coming in a few days, so hopefully I'll have that problem > > resolved. Anyways, you might want to consider the 2100 instead of the > > 2400. In terms of its overclockability, they say that the 2100 can be > > made to perfrom on par with a 2600 in some cases. AFAIK, the 2100 is > > the most bang for the buck at the present time. Save some $$$ and buy > > a new CPU and a new vidcard. 8-) > > > > Hope that this updated info helps.... > > > > Good Luck with your choice. > > Bert > > > Keep in mind there are TWO versions of the XP2100+ A Palomino and a > Thoroughbred. One costs a little more than the other and probably is the > one which is overclockable...which is which? I can never keep them > straight... I honestly don't know. I can barely keep my xp2100+ cool with > the stock fan...I use my trusty 12 inch desktop rotating fan for extra > cooling. > dave henrie

The latest and greatest version is the Thoroughbred 'B'. It does cost a few $$ more -- as I said, it's about $93 at NewEgg at the present time. That's the version with the unlocked multiplier (ie - easier to overclock).

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> BRH < > > I've bought an AthlonXP2100+ (about $93 at NewEgg), but haven't gotten > > it installed becaise of problems upgarding my BIOS. Got a new BIOS > > chip coming in a few days, so hopefully I'll have that problem > > resolved. Anyways, you might want to consider the 2100 instead of the > > 2400. In terms of its overclockability, they say that the 2100 can be > > made to perfrom on par with a 2600 in some cases. AFAIK, the 2100 is > > the most bang for the buck at the present time. Save some $$$ and buy > > a new CPU and a new vidcard. 8-) > > Hope that this updated info helps.... > > Good Luck with your choice. > > Bert > Keep in mind there are TWO versions of the XP2100+ A Palomino and a > Thoroughbred. One costs a little more than the other and probably is the > one which is overclockable...which is which? I can never keep them > straight... I honestly don't know. I can barely keep my xp2100+ cool with > the stock fan...I use my trusty 12 inch desktop rotating fan for extra > cooling. > dave henrie

Dave...I have the same xp2100+ running at xp2380+ with a Thermalright SLK800 heatsink and a near silent Akasa 80mm fan.which i swapped recently after using a Delta Concorde Is Here 80mm fan...lol The temperatures range from 35 deg at idle on a normal day to 48 running GTR 2002 for very long periods on my home lan. It is rock solid stable and after i got the right voltage it has never caused any problems. AD

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> Dave...I have the same xp2100+ running at xp2380+ with a Thermalright > SLK800 heatsink and a near silent Akasa 80mm fan.which i swapped > recently after using a Delta Concorde Is Here 80mm fan...lol > > The temperatures range from 35 deg at idle on a normal day to 48 > running GTR 2002 for very long periods on my home lan. > > It is rock solid stable and after i got the right voltage it has never > caused any problems. > > AD > > >

See with the stock fan, I START at about 47 with no load..and if I really spend a long time simming it will be in the mid to high 50's when I exit. Guess I'd better dig into a real heatsink/fan combo. dave henrie