GTR2002 : Show some support !

I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than 75,000 downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double that so help is required ! If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how about showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like further development of this superb game and even small amounts would help and prove that they are appreciated. More details (including a paypal link) are shown here http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c cheers, Andy. p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah blah :-)

Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which seems a bit hard to imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have to wonder how accurate that is. But even if they're counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on the forum, their excess charges from the initial GTR2002 traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week @ .015/MB) were �793 (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip in �10, which was over half what I paid for the full game. Seemed about right for an add-on. Anyone? SB "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than 75,000 > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double thatso > help is required ! > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then howabout > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd likefurther > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help andprove > that they are appreciated. > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > >http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5

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> 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c > > cheers, > > Andy. > > p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah blah > :-)

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> Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which > seems a bit hard to imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have > to wonder how accurate that is. But even if they're > counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on > the forum, their excess charges from the initial GTR2002 > traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week @ .015/MB) were �793 > (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip > in �10, which was over half what I paid for the full game. > Seemed about right for an add-on. Anyone?

I contributed the equivalent of 25 Euros, which is also about half of a major, full price game over here. Jan. =---

Yeh come guys please help them without us they might just giveup.Go here http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php and click the PayPal button at the top middle of the page. "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which seems a bit hardto > imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have to wonder how accurate that is. But > even if they're counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on the forum, their > excess charges from the initial GTR2002 traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week@ > .015/MB) were �793 (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip in �10, whichwas > over half what I paid for the full game. Seemed about right for anadd-on.

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> Anyone? > > SB > > "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than

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> > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double that > so > > help is required ! > > > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how > about > > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like > further > > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help and > prove > > that they are appreciated. > > > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > > > > >

http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5

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> > 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c > > > > cheers, > > > > Andy. > > > > p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah

blah > > :-) > >

Don't really understand the maths here.... 45 gig of traffic divided by 270 meg per download is 166 downloads. Not 75000 downloads. So no wonder they're short of money - it costs 4 quid per complete download in server charges! "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which seems a bit hardto > imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have to wonder how accurate that is. But > even if they're counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on the forum, their > excess charges from the initial GTR2002 traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week@ > .015/MB) were �793 (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip in �10, whichwas > over half what I paid for the full game. Seemed about right for anadd-on.

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> Anyone? > > SB > > "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than

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> > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double that > so > > help is required ! > > > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how > about > > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like > further > > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help and > prove > > that they are appreciated. > > > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > > > > >

http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5

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> > 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c > > > > cheers, > > > > Andy. > > > > p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah

blah > > :-) > >

"Jim Seamus" wrote... > > Don't really understand the maths here.... 45 gig > of traffic divided by 270 meg per download is 166 > downloads. Not 75000 downloads. So no wonder they're > short of money - it costs 4 quid per complete > download in server charges! 45Gig of _excess_ traffic, Jim. Jan. =---

Actually, once they've maxed out their bandwidth quota, he's right; the incremental cost to them is about �4 ($6+) per full download. The mod's hosted in various locations now so it's not all on them anymore, but they still have costs to recover. Here's hoping they end up with enough left over for a round of beers! SB "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CwnL9.53897$[email hidden]...

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> > "Jim Seamus" wrote... > > > > Don't really understand the maths here.... 45 gig > > of traffic divided by 270 meg per download is 166 > > downloads. Not 75000 downloads. So no wonder they're > > short of money - it costs 4 quid per complete > > download in server charges! > > 45Gig of _excess_ traffic, Jim. > > Jan. > =--- > >

I haven't had a chance to get it yet (modem) but put in 4lbs anyway. rms [email hidden]

That is a chuffin(excuse my French) disgrace....all that effort and the baskets who post on all the forums saying how brilliant it is and how they really love it and can't stop playing it have given �400 in total...!!!!! Hope they all get GTR 2002 game crashes from now on.... AD "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vssL9.959$[email hidden]... > I haven't had a chance to get it yet (modem) but put in 4lbs anyway. > > rms > [email hidden] > >

"Aidee" wrote... > That is a chuffin(excuse my French) disgrace....all that > effort and the baskets who post on all the forums saying > how brilliant it is and how they really love it and can't > stop playing it have given �400 in total...!!!!! > > Hope they all get GTR 2002 game crashes from now on.... Hush... I paid up and it now freezes randomly if I use an N-GT Porsche. Jan. ;-) =---

LOL Jan...sorry,never knew my wishes were so strong ;) AD

"Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than 75,000 > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double thatso > help is required ! > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then howabout > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd likefurther > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help andprove > that they are appreciated. > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > >http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5 > 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c >Thanks for reminding me. Meant to do the right thing but it slipped my mind completely until I read your post. Sent them 10 quid (or CDN$ equivalent thereof) which seems reasonable for a very well done mod particulary since in addition to the mod they're having to bear server charges as well. Great mod! David

On 16 Dec 2002 02:38:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Andy) wrote: >If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how about >showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like further Thanx for the reminder...just paid..:) -- Venlig hilsen / Best regards Thore Sorensen - DK-2700 Bronshoj (Z = spamfilter)

I donated exactly what you did -- BEFORE I was able to even finish the download. I knew it would be worth it! Marc "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which seems a bit hardto > imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have to wonder how accurate that is. But > even if they're counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on the forum, their > excess charges from the initial GTR2002 traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week@ > .015/MB) were �793 (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip in �10, whichwas > over half what I paid for the full game. Seemed about right for anadd-on.

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> Anyone? > > SB > > "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than

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> > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double that > so > > help is required ! > > > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how > about > > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like > further > > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help and > prove > > that they are appreciated. > > > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > > > > >

http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5

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> > 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c > > > > cheers, > > > > Andy. > > > > p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah

blah > > :-) > >

same here On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:02:31 +0100, Thore <[email hidden]> wrote: >On 16 Dec 2002 02:38:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Andy) wrote: > >>If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how about >>showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like further > >Thanx for the reminder...just paid..:)

Wow! You guys are generous. I guess I'm just too much of a miser and only chipped in $10 USD. I figured an addon for a $19.99 game that I had to download with no box/manual that that would be fair. -Tim "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YbnL9.53861$[email hidden]...

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> "Steve Blankenship" wrote... > > Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which > > seems a bit hard to imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have > > to wonder how accurate that is. But even if they're > > counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on > > the forum, their excess charges from the initial GTR2002 > > traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week @ .015/MB) were �793 > > (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip > > in �10, which was over half what I paid for the full game. > > Seemed about right for an add-on. Anyone? > > I contributed the equivalent of 25 Euros, which is also about half of a > major, full price game over here. > > Jan. > =--- > >

I think they should have added a link or notice to the menu screen in the game. I'll bet most people never really thought about donating but if they were reminded they would be more than happy to donate a fair amount. -Tim "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than 75,000 > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 > > Apparently the server costs for just one month are more than double thatso > help is required ! > > If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then howabout > showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd likefurther > development of this superb game and even small amounts would help andprove > that they are appreciated. > > More details (including a paypal link) are shown here > >http://www.simmods.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=27&t=8321&s=9a0072f862a07f5

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> 5b1e8b116f11a2e6c > > cheers, > > Andy. > > p.s. I'm not linked in any way to the team behind GTR 2002, blah blah blah > :-)

In article <CwnL9.53897$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"Jim Seamus" wrote... >> >> Don't really understand the maths here.... 45 gig >> of traffic divided by 270 meg per download is 166 >> downloads. Not 75000 downloads. So no wonder they're >> short of money - it costs 4 quid per complete >> download in server charges! > >45Gig of _excess_ traffic, Jim. >

Does that include the downloads that crashed halfway through...? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett (check out my e-bay auctions) GPLRank:-0.098 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Andy wrote: > > I've just read on the GTR 2002 official forum that after more than 75,000 > downloads of this mod, the amount of donations is just over �400 If they come up with a good AussieV8 mod I might contribute...:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

<I guess I'm just too much of a miser and only...> Hence your last name. :-) Don't sweat it Tim. I'm sure any amount donated is greatly appreciated by Ian and the gang. -- See ya in the pits, Dean I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how long it's been since I've forgotten anything. "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Wow! You guys are generous. I guess I'm just too much of a miser and only > chipped in $10 USD. I figured an addon for a $19.99 game that I had to > download with no box/manual that that would be fair. > > -Tim > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YbnL9.53861$[email hidden]... > > "Steve Blankenship" wrote... > > > Hmmm; �400.... At �10 per, that's only 40 people, which > > > seems a bit hard to imagine from 75K+ downloads. I have > > > to wonder how accurate that is. But even if they're > > > counting clicks to DL, and not successful file transfers, > > > that's a lot of traffic. From the invoice Ian posted on > > > the forum, their excess charges from the initial GTR2002 > > > traffic (a bit over 40GB in a week @ .015/MB) were �793 > > > (incl/�118 of VAT - yikes!). > > > > > > How about a show of hands? I was more than happy to chip > > > in �10, which was over half what I paid for the full game. > > > Seemed about right for an add-on. Anyone? > > > > I contributed the equivalent of 25 Euros, which is also about half of a > > major, full price game over here. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > > > >

Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > If they come up with a good AussieV8 mod I might contribute...:-) If someone came up with a good AussieV8 mod, I think all of RAS will collectively FORCE you to contribute. :-P

On 17 Dec 2002 21:17:34 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote something like this:

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>In article <CwnL9.53897$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>"Jim Seamus" wrote... >>> >>> Don't really understand the maths here.... 45 gig >>> of traffic divided by 270 meg per download is 166 >>> downloads. Not 75000 downloads. So no wonder they're >>> short of money - it costs 4 quid per complete >>> download in server charges! >> >>45Gig of _excess_ traffic, Jim. >> > >Does that include the downloads that crashed halfway through...?

Crashed downloads cause traffic too... dunno if they have counted them in the total amount of downloads though. -- - Igor -

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> > Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:[email hidden]: > > > If they come up with a good AussieV8 mod I might contribute...:-) > > If someone came up with a good AussieV8 mod, I think all of RAS will > collectively FORCE you to contribute. :-P

I can live with that :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

"Thore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 16 Dec 2002 02:38:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Andy) wrote: > > >If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then howabout > >showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd likefurther

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> > Thanx for the reminder...just paid..:) > > -- > Venlig hilsen / Best regards > Thore Sorensen - DK-2700 Bronshoj > (Z = spamfilter)

If I could get the mod to work as well as the game does, I would gladly donate. But as I get very poor frame rates etc. I see no need to play it let alone donate.

"M Knorr" wrote... > <snip> > If I could get the mod to work as well as the game > does, I would gladly donate. But as I get very poor > frame rates etc. I see no need to play it let alone > donate. Well, the original post only called for those enjoying the mod to contribute. It would appear you're not enjoying it, so... The mod doesn't appear to perform differently to F1 2k2 on my machine, so perhaps you're suffering from a configuration problem. There are RAS regulars who appear to know F1 2k2 and the mod inside out. Couldn't hurt to post a summary of the problem and you specs, I'd say. Jan. =---

I think most people get very similar framerates in the mod as the original game. Probably the biggest drawback are the extra cars. The full field with GTR is 36 or 37 cars. That's a-lot of extra strain on your cpu and vidsystem. Try cutting back the ammount of CPU driven cars to 21, which would equal the F1 field and then try it again. Good luck. dave henrie "M Knorr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:F56N9.5712$[email hidden]...

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> > "Thore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On 16 Dec 2002 02:38:54 -0800, [email hidden] (Andy) wrote: > > > > >If you haven't yet donated and are enjoying playing this mod then how > about > > >showing some support and making a contribution ? I'm sure you'd like > further > > > > Thanx for the reminder...just paid..:) > > > > -- > > Venlig hilsen / Best regards > > Thore Sorensen - DK-2700 Bronshoj > > (Z = spamfilter) > > If I could get the mod to work as well as the game does, I would gladly > donate. But as I get very poor frame rates etc. I see no need to play it

let > alone donate. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

Dave Henrie wrote:

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> > I think most people get very similar framerates in the mod as the > original game. Probably the biggest drawback are the extra cars. The full > field with GTR is 36 or 37 cars. That's a-lot of extra strain on your cpu > and vidsystem. Try cutting back the ammount of CPU driven cars to 21, which > would equal the F1 field and then try it again. > Good luck. > dave henrie

Is this a guess on your part Herr von Henrie ? Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Dave Henrie wrote: > > > > I think most people get very similar framerates in the mod as the > > original game. Probably the biggest drawback are the extra cars. Thefull > > field with GTR is 36 or 37 cars. That's a-lot of extra strain on yourcpu > > and vidsystem. Try cutting back the ammount of CPU driven cars to 21,which

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> > would equal the F1 field and then try it again. > > Good luck. > > dave henrie > > Is this a guess on your part Herr von Henrie ? > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

Ya Vohl!! Now go away or I will taunt you a second time-uh. dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02

Dave Henrie wrote: > > Ya Vohl!! > Now go away or I will taunt you a second time-uh. > dave henrie <goes away> Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--