> coincidentally, is also where the second shooter on the grassy knoll
> has retired and is living comfortably sipping***tails with Elvis)
All the best,
uwe
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All the best,
uwe
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>> But then, this is priceless too, from another post,......"Mitch - this
>> ain't the place for politics, ....."
>> So, you can post political comments, but not others ? Interesting.
> I was apologising for the fact that *I* was about to go off topic.
> I made no comment on what others should or should not do. You should try
> it sometime.
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> >> But then, this is priceless too, from another post,......"Mitch -
this
> >> ain't the place for politics, ....."
> >> So, you can post political comments, but not others ? Interesting.
> > I was apologising for the fact that *I* was about to go off topic.
> > I made no comment on what others should or should not do. You should try
> > it sometime.
> C'mon guys, everybody enjoys a good old GWB flamewar in here every
> once in a while. This phenomenon is bound to stay with us here for the
> next three years or so ;-)
> All the best, uwe
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I was looking forward to seeing one of auto sim worlds most
esteemed denizens contributing some welcome insight on the sim
world. Instead ...
Oh well.
Back to rec.autos.simulators.OT.political.opinionated.drivel (from
all sides) ...
Should it be any surprise that*** Cheney stated the war on terror
could last fifty years or more? It's the perfect "non enemy" to justify
any spending, any rolling back of civil liberties, the bill of liberties
in the US, trial by jury over here.
Vastly greater numbers of people die on the roads each year than have
ever been killed by all terrorists in history. Our own corporations kill
more every year in the name of profit, peddling tobacco and fat/sugar
laden ***for the populace to later die from. Compared to 9/11, twice
as many children die every day from the effects of poverty, but our
efforts to do anything about that are pitiful.
Asking as a human being, why should that be? Iraqi children are dying
from cancers caused by OUR depleted uranium shells (WMDs? No, because we
used them), and the hospital facilities treat them with....a bottle of
aspirin. Why, because that's all that Britain and the US allowed in
under the embargo, despite the UN resolution specifically allowing such
***.
I think everyone can agree that's a tragedy, yes? But look at the media
clamour over Terri Shiavo (a person) compared to the media silence over
thousands of Iraqi children dying of cancer and preventible diseases.
Please don't read into this that I'm knocking your beliefs, I'm not. I'm
just stating mine. I find it fascinating that two people, albeit from
different perspetives and with differently "apun" information can arrive
at such different opinions on the same topic. It's fine as long as both
are open for discussion.
However, we need to recognise truly who and where the enemies are, and
have some sense of proportion.
> Gee, thanks Mom.
> But at the same time, to be expected.
>>You have to admit though, the French guy has a shred of a point. I'm
>>far from saying he's right, but I've never seen a plane disappear
>>into a hole smaller than itself, nor leave any trace of wreckage,
>>bodies, seats, luggage, or any of the other debris we've all seen in
>>every other plane crash.
>>It is wierd
> Okay, John, you win -- 9/11 was cooked up by Bush in Area 51 (which
> coincidentally, is also where the second shooter on the grassy knoll
> has retired and is living comfortably sipping***tails with Elvis)
I thought such questioning was an innate part of humanity.
Do you disagree? Sufficient weapons exist to kill everyone on the planet
four times over. Do you think the world will be a better place when we
spend further trillions on making that five or six, or could the effort
be used more profitably?
I have as much fight with the average Iraqi as I do with you, my next
door neighbour, or indeed the average Chinese or any other person in the
world. Why do we feel the need to pigeon-hole them, correction, to have
them pigeon-holed for us into "like" and "hate"? Or live and die? Saddam
was the US' best buddy back in the 80's, and again in the 90's, as was
Suharto in days gone by, as was Noriega, etc etc - the list is endless.
Sometimes Stalin really did say it best.
Stalin and Saddam both hero's while GW is the anti-christ?
Sad..
Mitch
They sell refills over the net now and its cheap ;)
Mitch
I welcome your angry diatribe. While it's obvious I can't convince you
of the threat of Bush's neo-fascism, expressing our views is fundamental
to what is left of a free and open society.
Marty
> Classic left-wing loon, if it's a republican in office, war is bad. If
> it's a democrat...more war, we need more war!
>>Michael Moore, great American hero. Has the guts and the brains to
>>seek the awful truth and use his art to communicate.
> ROFL! Michael Moore, the self-hating American "hero"? Good one! It
> doesn't bother you a bit that most of the ***in Fahrenheit 9/11 were
> proven lies that no thinking person could take seriously. Oh wait, I
> forgot about that caveat: "thinking person". Take him as seriously as
> you like then.
>>Yes, Randy it has never been a better time to be a liberal Democrat.
>>Liberals are what stands between America and the jugernaught of
>>ocorporatism being engineered by the Bush neo-fascists.
> LOL! It's really funny how when you don't have an enemy, you can
> create one.
>>>Oh yes, it's judicial tyranny when ever the right-wing doesn't like a
>>court ruling. Like the Terri Shiavo case, right?
> You don't understand the constitution one whit. You're as ignorant as
> most of the raving left.
>>Final authority? If you believe in democratic principles of
>>government that is of, by, and for the people, no. The judiciary
>>interpets the law. I think that was covered in Government 101.
> The judiciary interprets the law. They do not WRITE it (well, up until
> recently, when somehow the judiciary starting finding things that
> didn't exist in the constitution). Since you have so much respect for
> our judiciary, I assume you also supported the internment of the
> Japanese in WWII and the institution of slavery...since both were at
> one point fully backed by our laws. But hey, we don't want to flout
> the law right?
> Last time I checked, each branch of government swears fealty to the
> Constitution, NOT the judiciary.
> The truth of the matter is pretty easy to find. Start with reading
> Federalist papers 78 and 79 regarding the power of the courts. Or, if
> your attention span lasts long enough, read this and I dare you to
> dispute its accuracy:
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> I have to say that after I write these posts I ask myself why I'm even
> bothering. You cleasrly are absolutely CONSUMED with such utter hatred
> towards all things conservative, that my guess is that there is nothing
> that anyone could say or do to convince you that you were wrong.
> So failing that, my suggestion is that you travel to Baghdad, and in a
> public street corner (with, of course, the aid of a translator), you
> tell the Iraqi people that they aren't really free, and all the blather
> about Bush. I expect you won't make it out of that square alive.
> Or alternatively, there are many organizations which are still looking
> for the "useful idiots" of Stalin's day, to do their bidding. You
> might find an organization like this and offer yourself as a spokesman.
> You have the concept of 'reading your lines' down pat.
> I keep thinking of the movie "Lethal Weapon 2" where Danny Glover is in
> the South African embassy saying he wants to move to S. Africa to end
> apartheid, and he is using phrases like "oppresive white regime", and
> Joe Pesci's character, with a big stupid grin on his face, is doing the
> role of "amen, brother" and says stupidly "oppressive white regime!"
> parroting Danny Glover. When I see posts like yours that look like
> they could have been cut 'n pasted from the moveon.org website,
> complete with every lie and tired cliche trotted out, touted as fat, I
> just see you as a parrot incapable of any kind of rational thought on
> the subject, because you are utterly blinded by your hatred of all
> things not far left.
> Randy
