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A lap around "The Ring"

Mitch_

A lap around "The Ring"

by Mitch_ » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:24:36

Yea Ted he passed em like they werent trying or something.  The guy on the
long straight looked to be in first gear.

Mitch.


Ronald Stoeh

A lap around "The Ring"

by Ronald Stoeh » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 01:32:26


> The link is dead.

Well, so is his marketing effort for GT4... ;)

> EL



>>How about this ring lap with a Sauber in the supreme GT4...

>>www.areyouserios.com/uploads_hf/sauber_s16.wmv

R.D.S

A lap around "The Ring"

by R.D.S » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:25:27



Well here's the answer to why all the Pooches :)
looked so slow, This was posted on the site where I found the link to
the video:

"The reason the other cars look so slow is because they are.
That's the original Nurburgring in Germany.
Anyone with a few dollars can drive their street car around the famous
14 mile course. If you look at the cars that Hans Stuck is passing they
have a large number on them. that is their identifying number for their
session (not a racing number). There are no speed limits on the course.
You can also rent Porsches, Mercedes and Bmw's to drive around the
course.

They no longer use the orignal 14 mile course for racing. they built a
shorter and safer course for modern racing venues.

If you think that video was good, you need to find a copy of "IN CAR
956" Showcasing the late 80's GTP prototypes. Lots of great footage from
in car video of this track at over 200 MPH."

JP

A lap around "The Ring"

by JP » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 03:41:28


   Cool stuff, thanks.

Robin Lor

A lap around "The Ring"

by Robin Lor » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:10:45

You have no such number on a pubilc day/session (touristfahren)

Again not true during touristfahren

It's still used for some racing (VLN and the 24hr race)

Great vid - but its _early_ 80's cars (1983?)

The GTR video was perhaps taken from, the qualifying session from the 24hr
race? http://adac.24h-rennen.de/
There are many different classes of car - hence why some are much slower,
and they're not all necessarily going flat out, some may be on in or out
laps

If you liked the video, perhaps you should go buy the DVD from
http://renn.tv/shop/ (or one of the others I think this ones out of stock
now) They do it for the love of it in their spare time and dont make a
single euro out of the business - every thing is ploughed back in to make
better videos available in the future

Robin

Steve Smit

A lap around "The Ring"

by Steve Smit » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:40:35

Yeah...if only SimBin had had a BMW M3 V8 in GTR (to be fair, BMW didn't
have an M3 in the year simmed--2003--only that fruity little Z3 hatchback
with the inline 6).  The M3 was supposed to be avail as an add-on, but
apparently BMW freaked.  (Or demanded *** money.)


> Awesome.

> To all of you that thougth the head movement and the gear whine were over
> done in GTR just watch this.  Looks to me as Simbin was spot on.

> My copy of GTR should be here tomorrow woohoo.

> Mitch



> > "R.D.S." wrote...
> >> Check it out, Awesome lap around the Nurburgring
> >> with Hans Stuck
> >> <link snipped>

> > Wow, Strietzel was really "on it" for that one. Looks like he enjoyed it
> > too. ;-)

> > Jan.
> > =---

Mitch_

A lap around "The Ring"

by Mitch_ » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:16:11


> Yeah...if only SimBin had had a BMW M3 V8 in GTR (to be fair, BMW didn't
> have an M3 in the year simmed--2003--only that fruity little Z3 hatchback
> with the inline 6).  The M3 was supposed to be avail as an add-on, but
> apparently BMW freaked.  (Or demanded *** money.)

Thats too bad.  You would think these mfg's would realize it's free
advertising and not name exploitation.  Isnt racing all about advertising
products anyway?  Having your products in these sims generates more
positive interest doesnt it?  The void by the absence seems more
detrimental to the mfg/service than licensing can make up for if ya ask me.
EA not included in that statement of course ;)  Im mean seriously, how
could BMW go wrong in this instance?

Mitch
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Robin Lor

A lap around "The Ring"

by Robin Lor » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:32:20

BMW had the M3 GTR in 2003 for the Nrburgring 24hr if nothing else, cause I
was there. However it was a bit of an embarassment for them as they packed
the M3 GTRs radiators with dry ice prior to the race start which caused
broken oil lines and the cars had to stop on the very 1st lap, not getting
back out top do their 1st lap for a couple of hours

Bad memories maybe?

Robin

Steve Smit

A lap around "The Ring"

by Steve Smit » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:58:30

Sorry, I meant to say BMW didn't have the M3 V8 in the FIA's GT Racing
series (which is what the game GTR simulates).  They did run the car
elsewhere, but the race at the Nurburgring wasn't part of the FIA GT
Championship that year:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Neither were such enduro classics as Daytona, Sebring, the TT, Le Mans, etc.
Politics...or worse, *French* politics.  (Sorry if I offended any
descendants of Marie Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Montier--better known
as the Marquis de Lafayette--we are still grateful....)


John DiFoo

A lap around "The Ring"

by John DiFoo » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:30:57


>They no longer use the orignal 14 mile course for racing. they built a
>shorter and safer course for modern racing venues.

There are in fact several races per year on the Nordschleife,
including the famous 24 hour race (which this year TPTB
decided to NOT run opposite the Lemans 24 hour race,
thank god).
Jussi Koukk

A lap around "The Ring"

by Jussi Koukk » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:44:39


something like:

Wow. Never realised how much noise the gearbox/power train really
makes. You can hardly hear the engine at high speeds.
--
- Jussi Koukku -

Robin Lor

A lap around "The Ring"

by Robin Lor » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:58:49

If you think the noise is bad on that, check out this
http://www.supercarchallenge.nl/video/assen-bmwstw.wmv
Great vid where a 320i starts at the back and works his way through

Robin

Dave Henri

A lap around "The Ring"

by Dave Henri » Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:15:48



   That is one area we've not been exposed truthfully to I think.
I remember the BMW touring cars that ran in the AUssie Super Touring series
back in the mid 90's, they were schreechingly, painfully loud when the
incar camera was shown.  I loved it.  So whenever we get just the barest
hint of gear whine, like the tptcc mod's sound file,  I tend to get
overenthused.  

dave henrie

Malc

A lap around "The Ring"

by Malc » Wed, 16 Mar 2005 03:16:39




> > Wow. Never realised how much noise the gearbox/power train really
> > makes. You can hardly hear the engine at high speeds.
> > --
> > - Jussi Koukku -

>    That is one area we've not been exposed truthfully to I think.
> I remember the BMW touring cars that ran in the AUssie Super Touring
series
> back in the mid 90's, they were schreechingly, painfully loud when the
> incar camera was shown.  I loved it.  So whenever we get just the barest
> hint of gear whine, like the tptcc mod's sound file,  I tend to get
> overenthused.

Bear in mind that a) the driver will be wearing a helmet & balaclava, and b)
the amount of noise from the diff is dependant on the position & type of mic
on the video camera, and will only really be excessively loud in-car in a
front-engined, RWD chassis.

Malc.


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