rec.autos.simulators

The major difference between US and European m***is the fact that weighing
some lives against a few other lives is a natural thing to do. It isn't in
europe, and this explains a whole range of complexes concerning american policy,
foreigh policy among other things.

The classical philosophical problem is the jew in the confrontation camp,
confronted with the following choice: Either he wields a machine gun (if you can
say "wield" when using a machine gun) and kill 100 of his own people, or he
doesn't, and 200 of his people get killed.

Think about it, what you'd do.

If you have made this realization about freedom, then why on earth are you guys
bombing the hell out of Afghanistan and Iraq? Why are you not giving these
peoples a choice?

---Asgeir---

 > Somehow you can just blind yourself of anything good the
 > US has ever done.

When have I *ever* said that? The problem with many of you guys is that
you and your current leadership so often spout a "you're either with us
or against us" philosophy which has no place in real world debate.

This isn't an ideal world. Nobody is expected to be perfect. But so
often many of you talk as if Truth and Light and Justice is all that
America stands for.

If only that were true!

America, like any other human construct, is as capable of being
corrupted and misused as any other. Corruption comes in many forms. Your
democracy is up for grabs to the highest bidder. Your military is all
but worshipped as the Tool of Righteousness by people fed the Stars &
Stripes from birth by cultural indoctrination. Your leaders must appeal
to the tele-evangelist herded vote to succeed. And in order to stay in
power they must preach fear. Fear of Russia. Fear of Al-Quaeda. Fear,
quite literally, of your own shadow.

A frightened population is an obedient population. Just ask Stalin. But
then Stalin was loved by a lot of his people too. It's funny how
rational human beings can admire a leader even when he does things which
horrify others.

 > The US (despite your clouded nonsense) is a great country and
 > a great collection of people that want the best for the World
 > and everyone in it.

I don't doubt that. However there are many great nations full of great
people who want the same, but disagree about the journey and the
destination. Their opinions count no more or no less just because they
don't have the armed forces to back it up.

Andrew McP

PS Thanks for giving me something to think about while the anaesthetic
wears off from my filling. Speaking of which, I believe the powered
dental drill was invented by an American. Thanks a bunch!

PPS Apologies if there's anything unusual about this post (apart from
the fact it's full of OT euro-bollox). I'm posting with Mozilla Firebird
for the first time and I'm not convinced I know what I'm doing. Nothing
new there then ;-)

Grow up, we are supposed to be sentient beings!!!

Hasn't anyone told you that you must not let yourself be guided by the need for
revenge? Your parents didn't do the job properly!

---A---

<snip>

And I won't continue this thread, because you are not arguing. You're just being
a***head. I suggest you focus on continue being a***head, and you'll see
where that brings you over the years. Good luck.

So, if you tell me where I made a spelling error, I'll leave this thread better
educated.

---A---

I agree that the Stalin period was much more complex than (TV) history
often reports it, and on an abstract level he did an incredible job of
modernising a peasant nation. But I think we can definitely say Stalin's
policies were directly responsible for many millions of deaths and many
more millions of people suffering greatly.

Whether there was any other way of preparing Russia before Germany made
its move eastwards (as Stalin feared from an early stage) we can only guess.

One thing's for sure though, we owe Stalin's Russia a lot (in regards to
defeating Hitler), and that's a bitter pill to have to swallow in some ways.

Andrew McP

BTW, the reason for the sanctions was Saddam Hussein. The victim of the
sanctions were the Iraqi people. Saddam got all the medication he needed. This
was my point, and you failed completely to see it.

Good luck in your life.

---A---

    Goy, it seems ras is spawning a number of Adam Dean's. It's a shame that
all
these "over-inflated EGO's" have forgotten this NG is supposed to deal with
auto
simulators. It seems there is no escape from political and ideological
bigotry. It's
not like the air waves and media aren't fully saturated with it but the
zealots feel the
need to bring it here as well.
    I guess you were right about how things have died in sim racing. It's
been fun
watching ras and racing sims evolve from day one in my case but I guess it's
time
to move on. I just don't have the desire to read the latest rendition of
alt.religion-politicalBS.org.

    Pete

If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will
scrutinize it closely,
and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If on
the other hand,
he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to
his instincts,
he will accept it even on the slightest evidence.
Bertrand Russell

    Wow, so much hatred for a tin beenie wearer.  What happened to your
Kumbaya mindset ?

  I'd agree with most of this.  Forcing someone to do anything never works.

  Right over the top of the tin beanie head.

   Show me exactly where I said eye for an eye ?   You're ***ing about
your alleged damages done by the *UN* sanction (scam) against Iraq.  I just
stated the fact, that if Kuwait had never been invaded, there would have
been no sanction.
  Besides the fact that the $ for Iraq were there via the scam, but SH and
his crew decided to pocket them instead of spending them on food and
medicine as supposedly required.

  Really not hard to understand.  But do keep ignoring the facts.  Makes
your moonbat theories more interesting.

  Where did I say there was something wrong with it ?

  So, does this mean you won't answer my question ?

  "I won't continue this thread because you are not arguing"

 <laughter>

  Interesting statement.

  Anyway, I thought you weren't going to continue this thread, yet you ask
me a question.

  It's Iraqi btw.

Mitch

"Andrew MacPherson"

The U.S. has long been denied most of the best performance cars the
world has to offer. GT3&4 really drives the point home with the variety
of cool cars not available here. The R32 is one exception because, as I
read it, some American automotive journalists asked a VW exec. why we
often don't get to have such cars.

Marty