rec.autos.simulators

    The New England Patriots demonstrate the power of team - the rest are a
demonstration of collections of so called "superstars". Maybe the other
teams of the NFL can start an anti communist campaign to oust the Patriots?

Strangely enough I had no inclination to volunteer. I'll wait until I'm in
agony like the last time root c***work was required. Then I'll do
anything to stop the pain :-)

Such times always remind me how pointless torture is.

Andrew McP

Since when does one have to prove a definition? -not supporting your
currency in a sagging economy, thus alllowing it to drop and cheapening your
exports with regard to other countries in order to preserve your market
share is, by definition, a protectionist measure.

The oil thing I could hardly word better than Asgeir, so I won't bother. You
think the middle east is gonna allow you to suck it dry of it's natural
resources? -think again.

No you don't.

You're saying there are reasons other than short term fixes so voters
wouldn't feel the effects of a global economic downturn as sharply in order
to get re-elected? -You mean to say George and the gang took these measures
in good faith and only afterwards realised "Dang, European imports are now
20% more expensive than before.... hadn't thought of that!!" -get out of
here!!

Hello? -Bush plans to completely privatise healthcare. That means have money
or die. I can't believe voters overlooked that aspect. Too busy yahooing
about kicking Iraqi ass, I would imagine.

The primary sector over here was hit hard over this period of time too. I
don't think Clinton did anything significantly worse than politicians over
here. They didn't win any popularity contests either. However, we don't have
this 2 term deal so continuity prevailed and those areas are on the up again
in different ways -instead of being artificially sustained. Anyway, you guys
were too busy wondering whether Monica sucked his*** or not (who f'ing
cares?) for much detail to filter through on this side of the Atlantic.

I've gained a lot of respect for the man, post office. I think he's doing
you guys a hell of a service while he could be just hacking in to the
current administration.

Exactly, that's the whole point. You want to be the leading nation in the
world without having to take the responsabililty towards the future that
goes with it and Georgie is working his nuts off to ensure that you don't,
so you like him a lot. But the reality is this: you guys consume, per
capita, twice as much natural resources as anyone else in the world and, if
you hang on to your blinkers and preserve "your way of life", your grandson
is going to have to turn his SUV into a flowerbed. Because there isn't going
to be left anything to run it on.

Jan.
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No way!! -That's far too sensible. And you call yourself a patriot?

Jan. <vbseg>
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  Definition ?  Seemed like an accusation to me.  Which requires facts.  But
nice dodge.

  Show exactly where I said that (suck dry bit).

  Better than not answering direct questions put to one, as you are doing.

  First of all, always amusing who the same group who likes to spout off who
stupid the Bush admin is on one hand, in the same breath credit them with
the most complex of consipiracies.  Interesting.  Besides the fact that
oil/gas prices rose sharply before the election, so how that would help a
re-election is curious.
  You really need to do some research.

  Anyway, answer my question.  Proof.  It's how we do things over here
(figured I might as well do some patronizing myself.   In return you
understand).

    Um, we already have private healthcare.  Always have.  What are you
referring to ?  Medicare/caid ? (Assuming you even know what those are).  Or
do you have Social Security confused ?
    It has nothing to do with healthcare, if so.

   You didn't answer my question.  Surprised, I'm not.

   Hehe, show me where I called myself a patriot.  I just don't tolerate
moonbat theories and criticism is all.

Jan, I am sure your probably don't really know why our dollar is cheap right
now, BUT here are some real reasons.

1 - As the number of IMPORTS rises it puts downward pressure on the dollar.
We are now importing more goods and services today than we ever have.  So
your idea that it is protectionist is completely false.

2 - Our dollar should probably be much lower if it was at a true value, but
other countries prop it up, but because of our low interest rates, they have
not been as eager to do so.

3 - A weak dollar should actually help our economy as it makes our goods and
services more attractive overseas.

You are right here, BUT as prices rise the need/desire for THOSE natural
resources will dwindle, alternative fuels sources are already being
developed, but until the costs rise higher, what is the point?  Just because
you "run out" of something, doesn't necassarily mean it should be conserved.

No, BUT American goods and services are 20% cheaper for foreigners to
purchase and are expansionary for our economy.  HOWEVER, if you look at the
facts, it has in no way dampened the American desire for IMPORTS which
therefore is expanding the world economy even faster.  Right now, the world
economy looks very attractive.

That is completely false.  No reason to respond.

Why do we care?  Because we don't want to let our society degenerate into a
system of "Do whatever you want - no rules on me".  YOU have no idea what
the effects of our President getting "Monica'd" has done.  Is it OK for
young girls in Junior High to be giving their "Friends with Benefits" -
Monica's in the Bathroom or having "Rainbow" parties?  THAT is the reason
why those issues ARE important.

Jan, as I am sure you are aware of, but it is very likely that JP's grandson
will be running his SUV on alternative fuels by then and oil will be a
non-issue.  THIS is the primary reason why OPEC is VERY concerned with
letting oil prices get too high.  They do NOT want to give too much
incentive for the continued development of alternative fuels.

P.S.  Do you also realize that CHINA's recent capitalistic expansion and
resulting economic success is the primary reason for dramatic increase in
demand for oil?  There is also big speculation going on in the oil market
right now.

Bill Bollinger
www.gsxn.com

If there's any good to come out of this whole mess, it's got to be a sort of
territorial "European" sense among the populace over here; whereas
"US-emulation" dominated one hslf and "US-hatred" the other before. The
shift in perspective since Bush/Powell pushing through their way with Iraq
regardless of not having UN sanctioning (both lied to the UN security
counsil... inexcusable, in *our* opinion) is palpable Europe wide in popular
culture/opinions. Which is a good thing, IMO, along with re-inforcing
historic ties among Eastern and Western European nations, previously severed
by the US demonising "the other half".

It has all the makings of you having to compete with a resurging Europe
instead of being able to divide and conquer by ignoring one half while
culturally and economically dominating the other.

And I though I was born into a boring era... <vbseg>

Jan.
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<shrug>  We'll see.  Definately moonbat stuff here as usual.  You really
have an aversion to facts it seems.  Your comments I guess are the latest
version of a "resurging Europe".  Last (but not first) heard it when the
Euro, etc. came about.
  Seems a lot of jealousy to feel the need to make such comments imo.

  p.s.  Wasn't it Europeans tied in with the oil/food scam ?  Why yes, it
was.  As long as you brought up the UN, etc.

Furthermore, I think we can say that soviet won the war more in spite of Stalin
than because of him. He made huge mistakes both before the war and during it. At
one point the russians had next to no qualified officers, and the vast majority
of russians died as cannon fodder. This could have been avoided big scale, if
Stalin had the senses to listen to his advisors (if you can call someone an
"advicer" when they knew that Sibiria, or simply a bullet was not far away
giving the wrong piece of "advice")...

In many ways, Stalin's leadership resembles Hitler's in many ways, at least
militarily. I think we can agree on the fact that the two of them caused
millions of deaths, yes.

One very peculiar thing is that after the war, there was born more boys than
girls; in fact, I think for several years more than 60% of the newborns were
boys. Funny how nature adjusts so easily to population changes...

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