rec.autos.simulators

  My, the hypocrisy just keeps on comin'.  It "ain't the place for
politics",  yet you have no problem posting such......repeatedly in one
thread, including the first illusion to it maybe ?

  Suggest you follow your own advice.

Elrikk

Michael Moore, great American hero. Has the guts and the brains to seek
the awful truth and use his art to communicate.

Yes, Randy it has never been a better time to be a liberal Democrat.
Liberals are what stands between America and the jugernaught of
ocorporatism being engineered by the Bush neo-fascists.

Oh yes, it's judicial tyranny when ever the right-wing doesn't like a
court ruling. Like the Terri Shiavo case, right?

Final authority? If you believe in democratic principles of government
that is of, by, and for the people, no. The judiciary interpets the law.
I think that was covered in Government 101.

Marty

I continually mystifies me how the religious fundamentalists of the
right wing seems to have all but exclusive concern for life before birth
and after death. And yes, Terri Shiavo died long ago regardless of the
medical support that has kept her body alive.

Marty

By the way, it's "allusion".

   Gee, thanks Mom.

  But at the same time, to be expected.

I'm continually baffled that you can't grasp the simple concept of
innocence and guilt.  What crime has Terri Schaivo commited that earns
her a death penalty?  What crime is an unborn infant guilty of?  I'm
not sure why the concept of not punishing the innocent is so baffling
to you...but that will remain one of the mysteries of life.

that has kept her body alive.

You don't know that.  That's what you believe.  There are
nobel-nominated physicians who disagree with you.  But what do they
know?  You've got your ideology, and far be it from you to even express
any slightest tinge of doubt.  It's amazing that the left will take the
smallest amount of doubt to spare the life of someone who committed
*** and***, but when it comes to doubt about Terri Schiavo, they
claim to have none.  Enjoy your champaigne.  You sure put one over on
those pesky Christians, trying to keep someone alive.  More power to
death...

Classic left-wing loon, if it's a republican in office, war is bad.  If
it's a democrat...more war, we need more war!

ROFL!  Michael Moore, the self-hating American "hero"?  Good one!  It
doesn't bother you a bit that most of the ***in Fahrenheit 9/11 were
proven lies that no thinking person could take seriously.  Oh wait, I
forgot about that caveat: "thinking person". Take him as seriously as
you like then.

LOL!  It's really funny how when you don't have an enemy, you can
create one.

You don't understand the constitution one whit.  You're as ignorant as
most of the raving left.

The judiciary interprets the law.  They do not WRITE it (well, up until
recently, when somehow the judiciary starting finding things that
didn't exist in the constitution).  Since you have so much respect for
our judiciary, I assume you also supported the internment of the
Japanese in WWII and the institution of slavery...since both were at
one point fully backed by our laws.  But hey, we don't want to flout
the law right?

Last time I checked, each branch of government swears fealty to the
Constitution, NOT the judiciary.

The truth of the matter is pretty easy to find.  Start with reading
Federalist papers 78 and 79 regarding the power of the courts.  Or, if
your attention span lasts long enough, read this and I dare you to
dispute its accuracy:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I have to say that after I write these posts I ask myself why I'm even
bothering.  You cleasrly are absolutely CONSUMED with such utter hatred
towards all things conservative, that my guess is that there is nothing
that anyone could say or do to convince you that you were wrong.

So failing that, my suggestion is that you travel to Baghdad, and in a
public street corner (with, of course, the aid of a translator), you
tell the Iraqi people that they aren't really free, and all the blather
about Bush.  I expect you won't make it out of that square alive.

Or alternatively, there are many organizations which are still looking
for the "useful idiots" of Stalin's day, to do their bidding.  You
might find an organization like this and offer yourself as a spokesman.
You have the concept of 'reading your lines' down pat.

I keep thinking of the movie "Lethal Weapon 2" where Danny Glover is in
the South African embassy saying he wants to move to S. Africa to end
apartheid, and he is using phrases like "oppresive white regime", and
Joe Pesci's character, with a big stupid grin on his face, is doing the
role of "amen, brother" and says stupidly "oppressive white regime!"
parroting Danny Glover.  When I see posts like yours that look like
they could have been cut 'n pasted from the moveon.org website,
complete with every lie and tired cliche trotted out, touted as fat, I
just see you as a parrot incapable of any kind of rational thought on
the subject, because you are utterly blinded by your hatred of all
things not far left.

Randy

  [  ] Saddam Hussein
  [  ] please*** my wife in front of me and torture me to death

My guess is that option 1 is probably going to get a lot more votes :)

Saddam Hussein's "views" didn't gas the kurds and the Iranians, my
friend, nor did they invade a neighboring country and turn it into a
miniature 3rd reich, complete with secret police.

Well, your crystal ball is just as good or bad as mine is.  On the
other hand, Winston Churchill had the left howling at him for saying
the Nazis were really a threat, and now we know how mr. peacemaker
neville chamberlain went down in history.

You and Marty must be reading the same web sites!

Randy

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AT THIS POINT, ONE might expect a discussion of how John Marshall in
Marbury v. Madison declared the Court to be the final arbiter of the
Constitution. Kramer, however, shows that this standard interpretation
of Marbury is erroneous. At most, Marbury stands for the proposition
that the Court may make reference the Constitution when deciding a
case. In 1803, this was not a given. We must remember that in the
British system only Parliament could make constitutional
interpretations. Parliament was the ultimate sovereign and, to
paraphrase Blackstone, could make or unmake any law as it saw fit. The
Marbury Court simply recognized that because the people are the
ultimate sovereigns in America, all three coordinate branches may refer
to the people's fundamental law when carrying out their assigned
constitutional duties. Had Marshall declared the Supreme Court to be
the final arbiter, President Jefferson would likely have had him sent
to the federal gaol.

In essence, Marshall's Marbury opinion simply articulated the doctrine
of "departmentalism" favored by the Jeffersonian Republicans.
Departmentalist theory is perhaps best examined in the context of
President Jefferson's approach to the Sedition Act. Upon entering
office, Jefferson ordered the cessation of all federal sedition
prosecutions and he pardoned those who had been convicted. In 1804,
Jefferson received a letter from Abigail Adams criticizing his handling
of the Sedition Act controversy. Mrs. Adams argued that because the
judges had upheld the Sedition Act, President Jefferson had overstepped
his constitutional bounds when terminating prosecutions and pardoning
offenders.

In a polite response, Jefferson reminded Mrs. Adams that "nothing in
the constitution has given [the judges] the right to decide for the
executive, more than the Executive to decide for them." Both branches,
continued Jefferson, "are equally independent in the sphere assigned to
them." Jefferson recognized that the judges, "believing the law
constitutional, had a right to pass a sentence of fine and
imprisonment, because that power was placed in their hands by the
constitution." However, this did not bind him when performing his
duties as chief executive. Because he believed the Sedition Act was
unconstitutional, he "was bound to remit the execution of it."

Jefferson, like Madison in his Report to the ***ia House of
Delegates on the Sedition Act, denied that the judiciary was the final
arbiter of the Constitution. To give any one "co-equal" branch such a
power would make it "despotic." Of course, a final arbiter is needed if
the branches cannot reach an accommodation on certain issues. And for
Jefferson this ultimate power resided in the people of the several
states -- the ultimate sovereigns in the American system. By using the
ballot box or meeting in convention, the people would settle all
disputed constitutional questions.
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http://www.racesimcentral.net/

   What life support?  oxygen?  no...*** transfusions?  no...Heart
pacemakers?  no...  Did she need Kidney machines?  no...Did she need
breathing assistance?  no...  Did she need anything that you see on shows
like ER just to stay alive?  No.  
  All she needed was tube for food and water and somebody to change her
diapers.   Thats not life support.

  As many know, I'm not a republican nor a democrat.(although I can easily
see most of my thoughts have a more 'right-wing' angle than left these
days)  I don't subscribe to party politcs, I'm not a member of any
religious group.  

   I don't see TS as 'on life support' as so many like to claim.  But I
also do not see why her case stands out so...we have probably thousands of
similarly end-stage elders facing the same life/death issues every year.

   I did hear one interesting juxtaposition,  The other day a 10 year old
boy tried to sneak water into the facility..he was arrested, handcuffed and
taken away by 4(yes 4 policemen)  Yet also last week, a 200+pound man on
trial for*** was escorted by 1 (yes only 1!) 54year old grandmother even
AFTER they had discovered two shanks on his person before the trial began.
The result..the Granny was shot in the face...with her own weapon...the
perp then shot the judge, the bailiff and a Fed Imigration officer later
during his escape.

   This is all blown out of perportion.  I greive for the family yet have
no doubt they are not saving Terri's life.
dave henrie

  Now will somebody esplain what ANY of this has to do with simming?
dh  

9/11 was cooked up by Bush in Area 51 (which

  But then, double-talk is their specialty.