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Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

Don Burnett

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Don Burnett » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:18:12

Yeah, that's kind of what I thought he might be referring to, I just
couldn't understand how those guys leaving would have anything to do with
any patches for N4.
Papy is very dedicated to N4, to the extent of trying to give us a very good
online racing system, and even to the point of trying to police it somewhat
now.

Don Burnette


>   He's probably referring to the MGI group that splintered off from
Papyrus
> several years ago and Don Martin who was an employee of Papyrus, then the
> producer of Nascar Heat and now involved with the Nascar Thunder project
> coming out of EA.
>   However, as you stated, these all left BEFORE  N4  so their leaving
would
> have little effect on current projects...
> dave henrie


> > What big guys have left for EA and Hasbro??

> > Last I looked, pretty much all the folks that worked on N4 are still
> there,
> > and still working on it.
> > And why get involved in false rumours?

> > Don Burnette



> > > :)
> > > yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been emailing
> > > papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
> > > just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be involved in
> > > a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in and
> > > you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track waiting
> > > to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

> > > good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys have
> > > left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why the
> > > patch is taking so long? LOL
> > > rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
> > > patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to find a
> > > way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)



> > > > You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good rank.

> > > > Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and then
> > return
> > > > the box to the store for a refund.

> > > > Also, see about a lawsuit.

> > > > David G Fisher




> > > > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
> > > > > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!
> > > > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

> > > > > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY from
> > > > > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking somone,
> they
> > > > > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online AT
ALL.
> > > > > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is the
> > > > > only thing worth a ***to play.

B. Hilto

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by B. Hilto » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:28:56

Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and honestly..
there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe it
either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...


> Yeah, that's kind of what I thought he might be referring to, I just
> couldn't understand how those guys leaving would have anything to do with
> any patches for N4.
> Papy is very dedicated to N4, to the extent of trying to give us a very
good
> online racing system, and even to the point of trying to police it
somewhat
> now.

> Don Burnette



> >   He's probably referring to the MGI group that splintered off from
> Papyrus
> > several years ago and Don Martin who was an employee of Papyrus, then
the
> > producer of Nascar Heat and now involved with the Nascar Thunder project
> > coming out of EA.
> >   However, as you stated, these all left BEFORE  N4  so their leaving
> would
> > have little effect on current projects...
> > dave henrie


> > > What big guys have left for EA and Hasbro??

> > > Last I looked, pretty much all the folks that worked on N4 are still
> > there,
> > > and still working on it.
> > > And why get involved in false rumours?

> > > Don Burnette



> > > > :)
> > > > yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been
emailing
> > > > papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
> > > > just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be involved
in
> > > > a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in
and
> > > > you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track waiting
> > > > to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

> > > > good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys have
> > > > left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why the
> > > > patch is taking so long? LOL
> > > > rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
> > > > patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to find
a
> > > > way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)



> > > > > You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good
rank.

> > > > > Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and
then
> > > return
> > > > > the box to the store for a refund.

> > > > > Also, see about a lawsuit.

> > > > > David G Fisher




> > > > > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
> > > > > > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!
> > > > > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

> > > > > > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY
from
> > > > > > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking
somone,
> > they
> > > > > > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online AT
> ALL.
> > > > > > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is
the
> > > > > > only thing worth a ***to play.

Don Burnett

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Don Burnett » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:37:53

I tried it when it first came out, hung it up shortly after until the first
patch, tried it again, and have hung it up ever since.

Don Burnette


> Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and
honestly..
> there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe it
> either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...



> > Yeah, that's kind of what I thought he might be referring to, I just
> > couldn't understand how those guys leaving would have anything to do
with
> > any patches for N4.
> > Papy is very dedicated to N4, to the extent of trying to give us a very
> good
> > online racing system, and even to the point of trying to police it
> somewhat
> > now.

> > Don Burnette



> > >   He's probably referring to the MGI group that splintered off from
> > Papyrus
> > > several years ago and Don Martin who was an employee of Papyrus, then
> the
> > > producer of Nascar Heat and now involved with the Nascar Thunder
project
> > > coming out of EA.
> > >   However, as you stated, these all left BEFORE  N4  so their leaving
> > would
> > > have little effect on current projects...
> > > dave henrie


> > > > What big guys have left for EA and Hasbro??

> > > > Last I looked, pretty much all the folks that worked on N4 are still
> > > there,
> > > > and still working on it.
> > > > And why get involved in false rumours?

> > > > Don Burnette



> > > > > :)
> > > > > yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been
> emailing
> > > > > papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
> > > > > just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be
involved
> in
> > > > > a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in
> and
> > > > > you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track
waiting
> > > > > to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

> > > > > good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys
have
> > > > > left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why
the
> > > > > patch is taking so long? LOL
> > > > > rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
> > > > > patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to
find
> a
> > > > > way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)



> > > > > > You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good
> rank.

> > > > > > Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and
> then
> > > > return
> > > > > > the box to the store for a refund.

> > > > > > Also, see about a lawsuit.

> > > > > > David G Fisher




> > > > > > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
> > > > > > > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING
ONLINE!!!
> > > > > > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

> > > > > > > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY
> from
> > > > > > > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking
> somone,
> > > they
> > > > > > > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online
AT
> > ALL.
> > > > > > > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is
> the
> > > > > > > only thing worth a ***to play.

Thom j

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:08:54

Yea I have it too but it just doesnt do anything for me... something just
seems wrong when I run the tracks & I have no idea why?

| I tried it when it first came out, hung it up shortly after until the
first
| patch, tried it again, and have hung it up ever since.
|
| Don Burnette
|
|
| > Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and
| honestly..
| > there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe
it
| > either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...

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Mike Grand

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Mike Grand » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:33:26

I ahave a copy you can have for $10.

Mike Grandy
Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team
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Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and honestly..
there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe it
either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...


> Yeah, that's kind of what I thought he might be referring to, I just
> couldn't understand how those guys leaving would have anything to do with
> any patches for N4.
> Papy is very dedicated to N4, to the extent of trying to give us a very
good
> online racing system, and even to the point of trying to police it
somewhat
> now.

> Don Burnette



> >   He's probably referring to the MGI group that splintered off from
> Papyrus
> > several years ago and Don Martin who was an employee of Papyrus, then
the
> > producer of Nascar Heat and now involved with the Nascar Thunder project
> > coming out of EA.
> >   However, as you stated, these all left BEFORE  N4  so their leaving
> would
> > have little effect on current projects...
> > dave henrie


> > > What big guys have left for EA and Hasbro??

> > > Last I looked, pretty much all the folks that worked on N4 are still
> > there,
> > > and still working on it.
> > > And why get involved in false rumours?

> > > Don Burnette



> > > > :)
> > > > yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been
emailing
> > > > papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
> > > > just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be involved
in
> > > > a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in
and
> > > > you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track waiting
> > > > to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

> > > > good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys have
> > > > left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why the
> > > > patch is taking so long? LOL
> > > > rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
> > > > patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to find
a
> > > > way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)



> > > > > You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good
rank.

> > > > > Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and
then
> > > return
> > > > > the box to the store for a refund.

> > > > > Also, see about a lawsuit.

> > > > > David G Fisher




> > > > > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
> > > > > > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!
> > > > > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

> > > > > > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY
from
> > > > > > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking
somone,
> > they
> > > > > > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online AT
> ALL.
> > > > > > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is
the
> > > > > > only thing worth a ***to play.

Biz

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Biz » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:19:42

Well admittedly so did I since I tried going on-line b4 having much of a
clue about GPL.  But I though since I had done so much on-line Nx racing
that I knew enough to get started.  Boy was I mistaken, but I certainly got
up to speed fast with alot of excellent kind help from seasoned racers...

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


> LOL! First time I saw it (first time online) I thought he meant p*** off!
> :oD

> --
> Thomas M?rlund
> -*** Dale forever! -



> "REDLINE426" wrote ...
> > I've noticed in GPL, that racers almost always "PO" when the enter a
> server
> > track. Now I know that means "Practice Only", but then they enter the
> race.
> > Ummm what's the point?

> Maybe I'm missing something, but I think you'll find "PO" to be a fairly
> universal chat message standing for "Pit Out", in other words "keep you're
> eyes open, I'm leaving the pits now and entering the track."

Eldre

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Eldre » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:21:30



>Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and honestly..
>there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe it
>either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...

Why - so you can wreck someone there, too?
<ducking>

Eldred
p.s. that was a JOKE.  I just *had* to say it.... :)

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Eldre

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Eldre » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:21:31



>Couldn't the racer just connect through the league's server's I.P. address.
>The Serria.com servers are just mostly chat lobbies that connect you to the
>race server's I.P. aren't they?

Nope - if the server's on WON, you can't connect direct IP.

Eldred
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Eldre

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Eldre » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:21:31



>raced in a papy server.. with a full field and I had to retire cause I
>went back through the replay and counted 7 wreckers.... by wreckers I
>mean:

>-Parked on the track
>-Sitting on backstretch waiting for leaders to come around making a
>mad dash
>-diving through the pits
>-wrecking half the field before the race started

>Now... these are REAL wreckers... and it is 100% OBVIOUS (which mine
>was not)
>I just want to say this... why are these people still racing and 1 got
>banned after one stupid mistake a made?

Um...because nobody reported them....?  Did *you*?

Eldred
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Thom j

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:22:17

Damm Ur hot tonite E! :) I might have to put you above Dave H this
week! Now this should toss a 'gauntlet' to Dave H to work harder :)

| Why - so you can wreck someone there, too?
| <ducking>
|
| Eldred

| >Have any of your N4 guys tried NHeat?  I just got the game... and
honestly..
| >there's some parts of it i like much better than N4.  I didn't believe it
| >either until i got it... might wanta think about giving it a shot...
| >

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fistyc..

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by fistyc.. » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:58:52

lol that is what i would like to know


fistyc..

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by fistyc.. » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:46:33

well that kinda was my thinking to this to.
 heck at $50.00 a pop why would'nt they want you to buy the game twice
or three times as many wreckers as i have seen on theses servers.if
they banned them all.
 there sales will go up at least 75% if not more hehehehe.

i mean when ya got 10 or 15 cars all spinning almost every lap and you
are trying to drive thorugh them all well good luck.

thats why i dont run on there servers at all.if you want your lpi to
go up at all stay away from those papy loops at all cost its all but
impossible to finsh in one peice

and also with them loseing there people to ea well that could be the
end of papy as we know it.looks like the next good raceing game will
come from ea

i say beware and becareful or it could be one of us banned for
something we didnt do.

why not give three warnings if it is not headed then ban them for a
week and the next time 2 weeks and if you get banned for four weeks
then you are history for good. then you should have to buy the game
again if you still want to play

don


>:)
>yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been emailing
>papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
>just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be involved in
>a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in and
>you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track waiting
>to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

>good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys have
>left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why the
>patch is taking so long? LOL
>rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
>patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to find a
>way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)


>> You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good rank.

>> Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and then return
>> the box to the store for a refund.

>> Also, see about a lawsuit.

>> David G Fisher




>> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
>> > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

>> > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY from
>> > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking somone, they
>> > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online AT ALL.
>> > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is the
>> > only thing worth a ***to play.

B. Hilt

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by B. Hilt » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:46:41

Looks like there are some people that have filed a complaint with the
better business bureau...over the repurchase of the game

> well that kinda was my thinking to this to.
>  heck at $50.00 a pop why would'nt they want you to buy the game twice
> or three times as many wreckers as i have seen on theses servers.if
> they banned them all.
>  there sales will go up at least 75% if not more hehehehe.

> i mean when ya got 10 or 15 cars all spinning almost every lap and you
> are trying to drive thorugh them all well good luck.

> thats why i dont run on there servers at all.if you want your lpi to
> go up at all stay away from those papy loops at all cost its all but
> impossible to finsh in one peice

> and also with them loseing there people to ea well that could be the
> end of papy as we know it.looks like the next good raceing game will
> come from ea

> i say beware and becareful or it could be one of us banned for
> something we didnt do.

> why not give three warnings if it is not headed then ban them for a
> week and the next time 2 weeks and if you get banned for four weeks
> then you are history for good. then you should have to buy the game
> again if you still want to play

> don


> >:)
> >yea I've been screwed... but I think enough of you have been emailing
> >papy about how you feel... they might relook into some things.  It
> >just bothers me to think some of you good drivers might be involved in
> >a wreck... someone THINKS it's intentional... so they turn you in and
> >you get banned when there are still guys parked on the track waiting
> >to take out the whole field FOR FUN.

> >good business from Papy huh?   We'll most of the their big guys have
> >left to EA and Hasbro for their racing games... maybe that's why the
> >patch is taking so long? LOL
> >rumors say that we might have to buy the expansion pack to get the
> >patch... so tell me if that is right or not???  Papy trying to find a
> >way to make us give them money.... they better be very careful :)


> >> You've been screwed. No complaints before this one, and a good rank.

> >> Due what Ian P suggested. Buy a new copy, switch the CD's, and then return
> >> the box to the store for a refund.

> >> Also, see about a lawsuit.

> >> David G Fisher




> >> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport.nascar
> >> > Subject: Nascar 4 Racing (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!
> >> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 164.89.253.3

> >> > The people at Papy Racing has now been banning people TOTALLY from
> >> > racing online... if you are caught intentionally wrecking somone, they
> >> > will ban your cd key which will not allow you to play online AT ALL.
> >> > The offline version AI is so terrible... the online version is the
> >> > only thing worth a ***to play.

REDLINE42

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by REDLINE42 » Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:42:24

The 14 second replay is an obvious attempt to take someone out, IMO.

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Dave Henri

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Dave Henri » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:25:56


  Of the people that have left Papyrus, the bulk of those left LONG before
N4 was developed.  Ed Martin is now at EA, but the Nascar Thunder title he
is producing looks to be aimed at the console market first.  And he left
sometime between N2 and N3.  The current crew at Papyrus has plenty of
staffing and talent to produce a top notch sim.    Nascar Thunder 'may' very
well be a great title, but the departure of people from Papyrus has not
limited what they can produce.
dave henrie

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