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Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

GraDe

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by GraDe » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 02:32:34

<snip>

Wheres the problem?

Eddie Petti

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Eddie Petti » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:35:41



>> In my house I have two kids that are both old enough and qualified
>> enough to drive online. Both are rather good, with better ratings and
>> LPI than I have. LOL.

> Poor kids...

As this thread twists, he keeps bringing in new things...  If these kids
have better ratings and LPI than you, why do you start by saying they are
old enough and qualified enough?  That implies they aren't yet racing
online.

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Alex Kihuran

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Alex Kihuran » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 02:38:04

You have 2 kids and your 23? They have over a 7 rank at an SS, ST, RC, or
SW?

Thanks,
Alex

Biz

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Biz » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 02:49:21

I've yet to see one league where "sry" was banned because of a no-chat rule,
Thats ridiculous.

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash



"Biz"

> >No, but they should see the apology from your kb...........

> If it was a pickup race, maybe.  Some leagues have a 'no chat' rule.

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
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> F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59...

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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Chuc

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Chuc » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:14:22

Don't the rules state that you should "all" hold your line?
If so, why wasn't the striking driver penalized also?

*Just as Guilty?, it appears!
Just another failed program by Papy, IMO.

Thom j

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:40:42

A quick question: Since it appears this thread will be growing
for awhile, When you're *banned* do they pull your CD-Key
only? Or do they they get your IP address too?
-Thom_j.

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Chuc

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Chuc » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:48:20

Looks Like? Must be?

Clearly intentional?

How about Guilty, until proven innocent?

I watched the replay and I see no conclusive evidence of intent,
except to get out of the way.
And why wasn't the striking car holding his line, as the rules state?

This is Pathetic! But clearly an example of the "new" American Way.

Kick your dog instead, it can't post here! *LOL*

Thom j

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 03:55:42

Hey Jacob B! "Bighole" should tho'... hahaha :) Dag this thread
is getting funnier by each post! Keep it up guyz I'm havin' fun! :)

| >
| > PS. And of course "Blackhole" shouldn't be a banned word either :)
| >
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Thom j

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:03:46

You gotta love it!! Alex doesnt miss a beat..lol :)

| You have 2 kids and your 23? They have over a 7 rank at an SS, ST, RC, or
| SW?
| Thanks,
| Alex

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Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Thom j » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:09:25

Hmm? "As The RAS World Turns" :) Ya` just gotta love it!!

| As this thread twists, he keeps bringing in new things...  If these kids
| have better ratings and LPI than you, why do you start by saying they are
| old enough and qualified enough?  That implies they aren't yet racing
| online.
|


| As this thread twists, he keeps bringing in new things...  If these kids
| have better ratings and LPI than you, why do you start by saying they are
| old enough and qualified enough?  That implies they aren't yet racing
| online.
|


| >> In my house I have two kids that are both old enough and qualified
| >> enough to drive online. Both are rather good, with better ratings and
| >> LPI than I have. LOL.
| >

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Sean Higgin

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Sean Higgin » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:12:08

There's always another game for sale in the store!   If he want's to pay $50
for every time he gets banned then more power to him.  I would think he
would use better judgement in the future, unless he likes buying a new game
every week. :)

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Higgins"

> >Ya that will be cheaper than $50.  LMAO      Just bite the bullet and
> >explain your case to Papy, if they don't like it, and racing online is
that
> >important to you go buy another copy of the game.  Live and Learn!

> ...And if it happens again...?

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59...

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Sean Higgin

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Sean Higgin » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:12:08

LOL, that's what I said!!  Damn copy cat! hehe  

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  Ok Cliff, put down the beer and step back.... you are taking this way to seriously. It would be much cheaper to go buy another game then to hire an attorney.

  Mike Grandy

  Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team

  3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale


    Hardly,  Papy could not prove it was Intentional.

    They could say it looked intentional, but the court would know that
    accidents happen.

    There is no way that Papy could prove that he did it intentionally.



    > >And what about the people being banned unfairly? They do have a case
    > >and would win if they could prove it in court.
    >
    > He would have to prove that he was banned unfairly and from the account he
    > posted, he would have a very hard time doing that when the replay was
    viewed
    > in court.
    >
    >
    > Dave Casey
    > Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
    > www.teamcasey.net
    > www.lvkc.com
    > www.buycoolcrap.com

JM

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by JM » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:05:14


In the case of NASCAR4 I have successfully joined an online race without
going through sierra.com (ie direct connexion) that's as much as I'm
"entitled" to in terms of functionality offered on the box cover. the
sierra.com is an added bonus, except when everyone who makes a mistake is
permanently banned, and nobody can race there anymore, of course.

cheers
John

JM

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by JM » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:11:14


Of course, NASCAR4 is no longer available in any high street retailers in
the UK.
Not B.Hilton's problem probably, but a consideration for those of us racing
from the east side of the pond...

If it happened to me (and I mean being wrongfully banned if that is the
case) then I would boycott every papyrus product ever subsequently released.
Cutting of my nose to spite my face, maybe, but I wouldn't give any more of
my money to a company that did that to me.

cheers
John

Andre Warring

Nascar Racing 4 (PAPY) BANNED ME FROM RACING ONLINE!!!! - READ THIS

by Andre Warring » Tue, 28 Aug 2001 04:29:49

On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:42:47 GMT, "Alex Kihurani"


>Okay, I got the replay from B. Hilton, and it looked REALLY bad. Ok, here's
>what really happens.
<snip>
>I still don't know if he's a *** wrecker or a good driver who just had
>a dark, frustrated moment, and took someone out. But still, there was no
>doubt in my mind that it was intentional.

Alex.. this banning and blaming stuff is quite dangerous. It's
extremely hard to tell if a crash was intentional even if you have the
replay.
I did not watch the replay, this topic is interesting enough to keep
it general, I don't want to start an endless discussion about this
particulair replay.

Banning should only be used when it's totally obvious.
With totally obvious I mean a driver taking out every possible car,
driving the wrong way, waiting untill a car is behind him and ramming
him off the road.. we've all seen nutcases like these in N4 online.

Everyone can have a bad day, making a totally stupid mistake causing
an accident which looks intentional while watching the replay.
One can even get carried away during a race, getting frustrated and
taking out that frustration on someone else. This is only human, it
even happens to real life drivers, and one should not be banned for
this if it happens once.
Unless it happens more than once ofcourse..

A warning should be given first, with a clear explanation of why the
warning was given. The wrecker should have a fair chance to defend
himself. A second (or third) time a wrecker causes the same stupid
accident a ban would be justified.

Andre


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