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>Are you ignorant?  Or just uninformed?

> Tony

> Seeing as how Todt could very well lose his job over all this, it makes no sense to me
> that he would have any part in this.

> Dave

>I never like Prost after his "incidents" with Senna, and Nigel always
seemed to

>-The Dude?
>Check out The Dude's radio show on 90.9 FM Indianapolis, B91.

> > (The saga is continued below!!!).......

> > > > (snip)
> > > > It all started innocently enough with a backyard sauna...
> > > > (unsnip)
> > > > There I was, 250 pounds of sweating pork-chops and sucking on a
Schlitz,
> > > > when the pinewood door creaked on its hinges, the steam parted as
the
> > cold
> > > > desert air rushed in and there _she_ stood........

> > > In nothing but a flimsy burnoose and a pickelhaube...and then it
struck
> > > me (THUD!)...what a sap she had!

> > ........and what a sap I was for believing her when she had told me, the
> > previous night under the heaving softness of her goose-down doona, that
it
> > was I that she had the hots for and _not_ Zebediah, the club-footed
dwarfish
> > henchman of Doctor Ng, the maniacal Vietnamese warlord with offices in
New
> > York, Paris, London and Berlin.

> You guys scare me.................

> --

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> BB

> > (The saga is continued below!!!).......

> > The manufactured drama continues. To understand the full odiferousness
> > of these stories you must first understand that Michael Schumacher is
> > Jean Todt's "Golden Boy," and that Todt rabidly and publicly dislikes
> > Eddie Irvine, perhaps to the point where he would allow Ferrari to lose
> > both Championships rather than have Irvine be the first to win the
> > titles for Ferrari in 20 years. The "where's the missing wheel?" pitstop
> > fiasco has for some weeks been rumored to have been Jean Todt's way of
> > keeping Irvine away from a firm grasp on the Championship, Todt at that
> > time believing that a newly-fit Schumacher would make it back in time to
> > wrestle his points lead back. Read on, if you dare -- or care:

> Jean Todt's preference for Schumacher over Irvine is certainly true, but I
seriously
> doubt that he would sabotage Irvine in this manner.  The missing tire
pitstop was just
> a result of Salo making an unexpected stop when Irvine's tires were
already set out
> for him.  When Salo came in, they had to quickly discard Irvine's tires
and get
> Salo's, and one of Irvine's tires was misplaced in the confusion.

> Also, the missing wheel fiasco was in the previous race (at Nurburgring).
Schumacher
> was already mathematically eliminated and had no chance of "wrestling his
points lead
> back".

> Seeing as how Todt could very well lose his job over all this, it makes no
sense to me
> that he would have any part in this.

> Dave

> *****************************************************
> David A. Ewing

> *****************************************************

> History repeats.

> > > The manufactured drama continues. To understand the full odiferousness
> > > of these stories you must first understand that Michael Schumacher is
> > > Jean Todt's "Golden Boy," and that Todt rabidly and publicly dislikes
> > > Eddie Irvine, perhaps to the point where he would allow Ferrari to
lose
> > > both Championships rather than have Irvine be the first to win the
> > > titles for Ferrari in 20 years. The "where's the missing wheel?"
pitstop
> > > fiasco has for some weeks been rumored to have been Jean Todt's way of
> > > keeping Irvine away from a firm grasp on the Championship, Todt at
that
> > > time believing that a newly-fit Schumacher would make it back in time
to
> > > wrestle his points lead back. Read on, if you dare -- or care:

> > Jean Todt's preference for Schumacher over Irvine is certainly true, but
I
> seriously
> > doubt that he would sabotage Irvine in this manner.  The missing tire
> pitstop was just
> > a result of Salo making an unexpected stop when Irvine's tires were
> already set out
> > for him.  When Salo came in, they had to quickly discard Irvine's tires
> and get
> > Salo's, and one of Irvine's tires was misplaced in the confusion.

> > Also, the missing wheel fiasco was in the previous race (at
Nurburgring).
> Schumacher
> > was already mathematically eliminated and had no chance of "wrestling
his
> points lead
> > back".

> > Seeing as how Todt could very well lose his job over all this, it makes
no
> sense to me
> > that he would have any part in this.

> > Dave

> > *****************************************************
> > David A. Ewing

> > *****************************************************

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> Let me quote one Mr. Edde Irvine talking specifically about the new
> barge boards (I am presuming he would know more than you, but I'm sure
> you'll dispute that...)

> "We pretty much had the car as in the Nurburgring, I could quite
> easily have put the car on pole [in the Nurburgring] if I had put a
> lap together. Here [Sepang] was the first time we showed it. In
> testing before Nurburgring we went backwards a little bit, but we
> tested after that and understood what we had done wrong. AS YOU CAN
> SEE, IT'S A BIG STEP FORWARD".

> We all know that it is a cardinal sin for a driver to speak badly of the
red
> one. Ask Mr Prost.

> Mark


> > David, think back to when Surtees had his legs chopped from under
> him.....at
> > what proved to be the expense of Ferraris fortunes at that time (that
same
> > season I think).
> > The chopping was started by the Team Manager, a pinch-faced bloke whose
> name
> > is on the tip of my tongue and who hated Surtees guts with a vengeance.

> > History repeats.

> > > > The manufactured drama continues. To understand the full
odiferousness
> > > > of these stories you must first understand that Michael Schumacher
is
> > > > Jean Todt's "Golden Boy," and that Todt rabidly and publicly
dislikes
> > > > Eddie Irvine, perhaps to the point where he would allow Ferrari to
> lose
> > > > both Championships rather than have Irvine be the first to win the
> > > > titles for Ferrari in 20 years. The "where's the missing wheel?"
> pitstop
> > > > fiasco has for some weeks been rumored to have been Jean Todt's way
of
> > > > keeping Irvine away from a firm grasp on the Championship, Todt at
> that
> > > > time believing that a newly-fit Schumacher would make it back in
time
> to
> > > > wrestle his points lead back. Read on, if you dare -- or care:

> > > Jean Todt's preference for Schumacher over Irvine is certainly true,
but
> I
> > seriously
> > > doubt that he would sabotage Irvine in this manner.  The missing tire
> > pitstop was just
> > > a result of Salo making an unexpected stop when Irvine's tires were
> > already set out
> > > for him.  When Salo came in, they had to quickly discard Irvine's
tires
> > and get
> > > Salo's, and one of Irvine's tires was misplaced in the confusion.

> > > Also, the missing wheel fiasco was in the previous race (at
> Nurburgring).
> > Schumacher
> > > was already mathematically eliminated and had no chance of "wrestling
> his
> > points lead
> > > back".

> > > Seeing as how Todt could very well lose his job over all this, it
makes
> no
> > sense to me
> > > that he would have any part in this.

> > > Dave

> > > *****************************************************
> > > David A. Ewing

> > > *****************************************************

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> That would be Mr Dragoni Bruce. And appropriate name wouldn't you agree <G>
> I remember that he chopped Surtees in 1966, a xenophobic move to get his
> countryman Bandini into the team. He cited Surtee's outspoken criticisms of
> the v12 engines lack of power as the reason why he had to go.

> We all know that it is a cardinal sin for a driver to speak badly of the red
> one. Ask Mr Prost.

> As I mentioned at the start of my message, that was a quote from Eddie
> talking about the barge boards.

>> As I mentioned at the start of my message, that was a quote from Eddie
>> talking about the barge boards.

>Let me quote one Mr. Edde Irvine talking specifically about the new
>barge boards...

>"We pretty much had the car as in the Nurburgring, I could quite
>easily have put the car on pole [in the Nurburgring] if I had put a
>lap together. Here [Sepang] was the first time we showed it. In
>testing before Nurburgring we went backwards a little bit, but we
>tested after that and understood what we had done wrong. AS YOU CAN
>SEE, IT'S A BIG STEP FORWARD".

>I think the misunderstanding here, John, is the lack of context. *You*
>say the quote from Eddie Irvine is regarding the Ferrari barge boards,
>and apparently you believe the last sentence, which you have emphasized,
>is Irvine's statement that something having been done to the barge
>boards is the reason for "THE BIG STEP FORWARD," but nowhere in the
>Irvine quote as you have cited it is there any reference to barge boards
>at all. Is there some part of the quote that you have excised -- for
>brevity's sake, perhaps -- that specifically indicates Irvine was
>talking about the barge boards? Where did you see the quote? I'd
>certainly be interested in the full text and context of a quote made by
>Irvine apparently some time before the DQ at Sepang in which he clearly
>states that the barge boards in question were the reason for Ferrari's
>much better showing in Malaysia than at the Luxembourg GP. Please let us
>know where we can find the whole quote.