CART Precision Racing, anyone?
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
Vintook
> > If it happens this could mean good things for Papy's racing sims.
> > http://www.gamepro.com/lofi/article.cfm?article_id=27923
Sure, CPR wasn't great. But if M$ are to give Papy a lifeline then i can see
the sense in that - provided they're allowed to do their own thing without
interference from 'upstairs' or buying key team members to work on train
sims.
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David G Fisher
> > If it happens this could mean good things for Papy's racing sims.
> > http://www.gamepro.com/lofi/article.cfm?article_id=27923
> David G Fisher
> > Erm, Steve - why exactly would that mean "good things" for racing sims?
> > CART Precision Racing, anyone?
> > > If it happens this could mean good things for Papy's racing sims.
> > > http://www.gamepro.com/lofi/article.cfm?article_id=27923
Put the blaim where it belongs please.
> MS has put out a lot of excellent racing games.
> Erm, Steve - why exactly would that mean "good things" for racing sims?
> CART Precision Racing, anyone?
They have a huge and loyal following, even some former regulars from the
sim racing scene has moved over to the trains, and guess what, they're
highly moddable as well, in fact, they're just about everything we wish
our racing sims could be, not to mention that MS knows how to sell
stuff, meaning it would stand a chance to survive and evolve
Online ***....well, we have XboX live which I hear is pretty good and
I've played more AOE and AOE2 on "The Zone" than I like to remember,
CFSx works pretty well too I've been told
I'm all for giving MS a shot at it, in fact, I can hardly see a downside
to it, after all, all we've seen from Papy the last 4-5 years are Nascar
sims and little to no support for 3rd party add on's, if they want to
make a MS Race Car Simulator where you buy the main program and then buy
all sorts of after market add on's later on....hang on, where have I
heard that idea before
Of course, this is all just MHO
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
>> Erm, Steve - why exactly would that mean "good things" for racing sims?
>> CART Precision Racing, anyone?
>Does the name MS Flight Simulator mean anything to you, or MS Train
>Simulator ?
>They have a huge and loyal following, even some former regulars from the
>sim racing scene has moved over to the trains, and guess what, they're
>highly moddable as well, in fact, they're just about everything we wish
>our racing sims could be, not to mention that MS knows how to sell
>stuff, meaning it would stand a chance to survive and evolve
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Achim
> > Erm, Steve - why exactly would that mean "good things" for racing sims?
> > CART Precision Racing, anyone?
> Does the name MS Flight Simulator mean anything to you, or MS Train
> Simulator ?
> They have a huge and loyal following, even some former regulars from the
> sim racing scene has moved over to the trains, and guess what, they're
> highly moddable as well, in fact, they're just about everything we wish
> our racing sims could be, not to mention that MS knows how to sell
> stuff, meaning it would stand a chance to survive and evolve
> Online ***....well, we have XboX live which I hear is pretty good and
> I've played more AOE and AOE2 on "The Zone" than I like to remember,
> CFSx works pretty well too I've been told
> I'm all for giving MS a shot at it, in fact, I can hardly see a downside
> to it, after all, all we've seen from Papy the last 4-5 years are Nascar
> sims and little to no support for 3rd party add on's, if they want to
> make a MS Race Car Simulator where you buy the main program and then buy
> all sorts of after market add on's later on....hang on, where have I
> heard that idea before
> Of course, this is all just MHO
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--
> > Erm, Steve - why exactly would that mean "good things" for racing sims?
> > CART Precision Racing, anyone?
> Does the name MS Flight Simulator mean anything to you, or MS Train
> Simulator ?
> They have a huge and loyal following, even some former regulars from the
> sim racing scene has moved over to the trains, and guess what, they're
> highly moddable as well, in fact, they're just about everything we wish
> our racing sims could be, not to mention that MS knows how to sell
> stuff, meaning it would stand a chance to survive and evolve
> Online ***....well, we have XboX live which I hear is pretty good and
> I've played more AOE and AOE2 on "The Zone" than I like to remember,
> CFSx works pretty well too I've been told
> I'm all for giving MS a shot at it, in fact, I can hardly see a downside
> to it, after all, all we've seen from Papy the last 4-5 years are Nascar
> sims and little to no support for 3rd party add on's, if they want to
> make a MS Race Car Simulator where you buy the main program and then buy
> all sorts of after market add on's later on....hang on, where have I
> heard that idea before
> Of course, this is all just MHO
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--
Well that was one of my biggest gripes with Motorcross Madness 1&2.
Here you had this huge online enviroment, the msn *** zone(or whatever
they call it..been so long I have forgotten the exact name.) and they
limit the races to 4 or 6 racers. MAN! Could you imagine what a rush a
good supercross sim would be at the start? approximentally 30 riders all
charging for the same spot? Mayhem, drama...RACING. But with 6 guys...you
all just spread out and run hotlaps.
dave henrie
> >The Ultimate Microsoft Anecdote is what they've done to sales of the new
BMW
> >7-Series. My jaw dropped when I heard BMW boasting that the GUI in the
next
> >7-Series would be "powered by" Windows. Now the votes are in: everybody
> >hates it - the critics, the owners - everybody. Not only is it
impossible
> >to decipher, it has a learning curve steeper than the North Face. And
once
> >you think you've got it handled, it exhibits all the horrors we FDUs have
> >hated it for since the previous century. One woman complained the
> >(alledgedly) voice-controlled radio would come on for no reason, at top
> >volume. The only way it could be turned off was to pull over, turn off
the
> >ignition, wait 10 seconds, then restart the car. I don't want these
people
> >making my operating system, I don't want them mucking about with my car,
and
> >I sure as hell don't want them messing with my simulations!
> What a bunch of***weeds. I suppose you all think Papy doing all
> those Nascar sims for years was real innovative?
> I also just finished a piece on the Xbox vs. the PS2 for Motor Trend
> magazine: "Car Games for Car Guys." My conclusion: MS has nothing to offer
> car guys (I'm talking abt. real-world car guys, not arcade-sim jockeys).
> Read it in the March issue (I think). I shudder to think how they might
> handle another road-racing simulation. (BTW, I liked Monster Truck Madness
> and was unhappy when they walked away from the franchise. I never thought
> much of Midtown Madness, but MM3 for the Xbox sure looks purty. I liked
> their offroad bike sim and wondered why they abandoned that, too. I've had
> MS Train Simulator for a year - it just lays there. I even thought CPR
> showed some promise, but MS doesn't have any more commitment to what it
> starts than Anna Nicole Smith...no relation.)
If anyone can make a profit out f a race car simulator of some sorts,
it's Bill G and his band of merry men, in fact, I'd say if a company
like MS doesn't commit to racing sims soon, the genre will forever be
doomed to be made by a small number of enthusiast for a small number of
enthusiasts and we can all sit here and cry "Cart, GPL2 or AussieV8's"
to our heart's content
I'll take the MS FS model any day, it's a decent FS and you can do just
about anything with it as far as adding new scenery (tracks) and planes
(cars), so even though the latest CFS may not be nothing to write home
about, they have had at least 2 before that was fairly well received,
how many GPL's have we had so far ?
MS knows about making money, if they're seriously looking into the sim
racing market, then that's good news as it means they think it's
possible to make money from it either directly or indirectly, hell, if
they only do it so they can sell more FF racing wheels I don't care, as
long as it's decent, not to mention that if MS is willing to take the
plunge, other large companies will pay attention and if MS makes money,
they might be interested too
And personally I'd rather see Papy end up under the MS umbrella and
given one or two chances at coming up with a good sim that also makes
money, than see them end up as yet another company producing multi
platform racing games such as NFS or whatever, MS has teams/partners
capable of doing this already, MM and MTM and various XboX titles
If they really are interested in picking up a company like Papy, it can
only be because they're either part of a package or because they're
genuinely interested in making a decent sim, IMHO, outside the
Nascar/GPL scene, hardly anyone knows who Papy is so it can't be for
their name and reputation as that can't be worth a whole lot in a
greater perspective, so it must be the talent and knowledge they're
after (still assuming they're actually after Papy), something that would
be totally wasted in the "just another racing game for your console"
type thing
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--