Is it just me or wouldn't it make sense to use the GPL engine in a series of
classic racing series. First off, the vaporware Trans-Am Racing '68-72
could be replaced with Trans-Am Legends. Then, of course, we'd get Can-Am
Legends, featuring that series at it's heights in the early 1970's. Next, a
Group C or IMSA Legends for the 1980's. And Lastly, how about a somebaody
make a decent game featuring LeMans.
There are other great Era's of racing, like..
LIKE MODERN RACING
IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!
Christ - I'm fairly sure if it wasnt for GPL then R.A.S wouldnt be so
obsessed with historic racing. I only play GPL because it's the best sim
there is - not because I particularly like or know anything about 1967
Formula One.
Perhaps - we could use the GPL engine to make a modern CART, or F1 sim?
That's what half of R.A.S. are screaming out for. The other half is
screaming for 1970-this and 1980-that.
If I was a developer looking at RAS I'd say "Forget it - they dont even know
what they want themselves - no point wasting the money developing stuff for
them"
World Sports Car - HOPEFULLY - will solve all this by being flexible enough
to encompass all the needs of the group - but I for one will be glad of the
chance to drive something that was made during my lifetime - and not 10
years before I was born, or 20 years before I understood what motor racing
was all about.
Doug
Why? I'm too young to remember motor racing before the 80's but having
seen the films and raced GPL it is absolutely clear that it was better
before then. The tracks were more exciting and challenging and the cars
took more driving.
Older series lend themselves more to computer simulation as well. Modern
F1 and Sports Prototypes have virtually no roll under cornering or pitch
under acceleration or braking. The sticky tires and massive downforce
mean that breakaway is super-sudden and seeing as the sim driver only
gets feedback from visuals and sound, will occur without warning.
- Michael
Of course, I wouldn't mind any sim made with a GPL engine, especially a
rally sim ;)
Thanks,
Alex
> > A few thoughts-
> > Is it just me or wouldn't it make sense to use the GPL engine in a
series
> of
> > classic racing series. First off, the vaporware Trans-Am Racing '68-72
> > could be replaced with Trans-Am Legends. Then, of course, we'd get
Can-Am
> > Legends, featuring that series at it's heights in the early 1970's.
Next,
> a
> > Group C or IMSA Legends for the 1980's. And Lastly, how about a
somebaody
> > make a decent game featuring LeMans.
> > There are other great Era's of racing, like..
> LIKE MODERN RACING
> IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK!!!
> Christ - I'm fairly sure if it wasnt for GPL then R.A.S wouldnt be so
> obsessed with historic racing. I only play GPL because it's the best sim
> there is - not because I particularly like or know anything about 1967
> Formula One.
> Perhaps - we could use the GPL engine to make a modern CART, or F1 sim?
> That's what half of R.A.S. are screaming out for. The other half is
> screaming for 1970-this and 1980-that.
> If I was a developer looking at RAS I'd say "Forget it - they dont even
know
> what they want themselves - no point wasting the money developing stuff
for
> them"
> World Sports Car - HOPEFULLY - will solve all this by being flexible
enough
> to encompass all the needs of the group - but I for one will be glad of
the
> chance to drive something that was made during my lifetime - and not 10
> years before I was born, or 20 years before I understood what motor racing
> was all about.
> Doug
On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 05:18:01 GMT, "John Anderson"
>There are other great Era's of racing, like..
I think the only successful implementation of it I've seen is Porsche
Unleashed... Put the new stuff in there, and have the classic racing
to sweeten the pot. This doesn't work that great for a hard core sim
because we demand real tracks and they change every few years.
Everyone has an era they would love to see recreated. For me, it'd be
the 80's Group B rally scene, which spawned some of the wildest and
most powerful cars ever created, like the Porsche 959 and Ferrari F40.
Unfortunately, the "Killer B's" were gone before much of the
technology created for them was used in rally.
Tim
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The Colin Mcrae games offer Metro 6r4, RS200, Audi S4 Sport Quattro, 205 T16
in the mix there.
Not "*** sims" by any means, but certainly on a par with NFS:porsche.
I've seen plenty of Group B action in my time, thanks to their overwhelming
popularity and success in Rallycross. (a decent rallycross sim, that'd be
nice, Santa)
Privateers still run 6R4s in national rallying, maybe not to the original
spec, I'm not sure.
cheers
John
Electronic Arts' Janes Military Simulations division was disbanded for
the very reason you're using to make your point. The market for modern
flight sims is larger than the market for historic driving sims, but
the market still couldn't bear multiple companies like Janes and
NovaLogic competing for the same sim dollars.
RTS games have been popular for 5 years, and RPG's are huge. Have you
heard of Ultima Online or Everquest? They're selling the game for 30
bucks and making 10 bucks a month from tens of thousands of players.
Picture GPL trying to do that.
Tim
Yeah, and Britney Spears is so much better then everything else on the
musical planet.
wow 5 years <sarcasm>
And they are exactly created for a specific group of people, like flight
sims, racing sims, adventure games, etc..
So what if they sell less? The person shouted that GPL is a failure. No,
it's not. It's a success within it's own market. Simple as that. That's
like stating that APHEX TWIN is a failure because they don't sell as much as
Until the *** industry stops thinking that way about the global market
and the absolute need for mass popularity within each and every game, it
will suffer and fail.
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The flexibility supposedly built into WSC means you can have older
rolly-polly cars or fire-breathing super-sprung vehicles. you can do new or
old and with a track editor, youcan have chicanes or not...
dave henrie
> > > Why? I'm too young to remember motor racing before the 80's but having
> > > seen the films and raced GPL it is absolutely clear that it was better
> > > before then. The tracks were more exciting and challenging and the
cars
> > > took more driving.
> > The flexibility supposedly built into WSC means you can have older
> > rolly-polly cars or fire-breathing super-sprung vehicles. you can do
new
> or
> > old and with a track editor, youcan have chicanes or not...
> > dave henrie
You overlook the cost of developing these games. No one is talking about
global number one sales, but rather profitability. Most PC Games do simply
not make money ever. The PC Games industry is like the movie industry: The
hits finance the turkeys.
Z.
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