+ADwAIQ-DOCTYPE html+AD4-
+ADw-html dir+AD0AIg-ltr+ACI- lang+AD0AIg-en-gb+ACIAPg-
+ADwAIQ---
8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-4 Fri, 07 Jan 2022 20:48:11 --+AD4-
+ADw-head+AD4-
+ADw-meta name+AD0-'description' content+AD0-'Archive of rec.autos.simulators usenet newsgroup for discussion of car and other vehicle racing simulators.'+AD4-
+ADw-meta http-equiv+AD0AIg-content-type+ACI- content+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs-charset+AD0-utf-8+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-title+AD4-stupid licensing ruins everything - rec.autos.simulators archive+ADw-/title+AD4-
+ADw-meta property+AD0AIg-og:url+ACI- content+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-meta property+AD0AIg-og:website+ACI- content+AD0AIg-website+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-meta property+AD0AIg-og:title+ACI- content+AD0AIg-rec.autos.simulators archive by Race Sim Central+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-meta property+AD0AIg-og:description+ACI- content+AD0AIg-Archive of rec.autos.simulators usenet newsgroup for discussion of car and other vehicle racing simulators.+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-meta property+AD0AIg-og:image+ACI- content+AD0AIg-rsc+AF8-thumb.jpg+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADw-link rel+AD0AIg-preconnect+ACI- href+AD0AIg-https://fonts.gstatic.com+ACIAPg-
+ADw-link href+AD0AIg-https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family+AD0-Kanit:wght+AEA-300+ACY-display+AD0-swap+ACI- rel+AD0AIg-stylesheet+ACIAPg-
+ADw-link rel+AD0AIg-stylesheet+ACI- type+AD0AIg-text/css+ACI- media+AD0AIg-all+ACI- href+AD0AIg-style.css+ACI- /+AD4-
+ADwAIQ--- meta for mobile devices --+AD4-
+ADw-meta name+AD0-'viewport' content+AD0-'width+AD0-device-width, initial-scale+AD0-1, maximum-scale+AD0-1'+AD4-
+ADwAIQ--- Zetta Menu include --+AD4-
+ADw-link id+AD0AIg-themeLink+ACI- rel+AD0AIg-stylesheet+ACI- href+AD0AIg-red.css+ACIAPg-
+ADwAIQ--- /Zetta Menu include --+AD4-
+ADwAIQ--- Font Awesome --+AD4-
+ADw-link rel+AD0AIg-stylesheet+ACI- href+AD0AIg-font-awesome.min.css+ACIAPg-
+ADw-link href+AD0-'http://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family+AD0-Lato' rel+AD0-'stylesheet' type+AD0-'text/css'+AD4-
+ADw-/head+AD4-
+ADw-body+AD4-
+ADw-div style+AD0AIg-z-index:1001+ADs-width:100+ACUAOw-position:fixed+ADs-top:0+ADs-background-color:+ACM-000000+ADs-min-height:60px+ADs-margin:0 auto+ADs-text-align:center+ADsAIgA+ADw-div style+AD0AIg-min-height:60px+ADs-margin:0 auto+ADs-width:100+ACUAOwAiAD4APA-ul onClick+AD0AIgAi- class+AD0AIg-zetta-menu zm-response-switch zm-full-width+ACIAPg-
+ADw-li class+AD0AIg-zm-logo+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/+ACIAPgA8-img title+AD0AIg-zettaMenu logo image+ACI- src+AD0AIg-header+AF8-logo.png+ACI- alt+AD0AIg-Race Sim Central logo+ACI- /+AD4APA-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/itm/news/+ACIAPg-News+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/itm/articles/+ACIAPg-Articles+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li class+AD0AIg-zm-active+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-R.A.S.+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/itm/products-simulation/+ACIAPg-Software+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li class+AD0AIg-zm-content zm-right-item+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/contact/+ACIAPg-Contact+ADw-i class+AD0AIg-zm-caret fa fa-envelope+ACIAPgA8-/i+AD4APA-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li class+AD0AIg-zm-content zm-right-item+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/where-to-buy/+ACIAPg-Store+ADw-i class+AD0AIg-zm-caret fa fa-shopping-cart+ACIAPgA8-/i+AD4APA-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-li class+AD0AIg-zm-content zm-right-item+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/files/+ACIAPg-Files+ADw-i class+AD0AIg-zm-caret fa fa-download+ACIAPgA8-/i+AD4APA-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4-
+ADw-/ul+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4APA-div style+AD0AIg-height:60px+ADsAIgA+ACY-nbsp+ADsAPA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-style+AD4-
html, body, .zetta-menu input, .zetta-menu textarea +AHs-
font-family: 'Lato', sans-serif+ADs-
+AH0-
+ADw-/style+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-rascontent+ACIAPg-
+ADwAIQ--- 1684 --+AD4-
+ADwAIQ--- Fri, 07 Jan 2022 10:56:56 - Fri, 07 Jan 2022 10:56:56 --+AD4APA-h1 class+AD0AIg-linkback+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIg-https://rec-autos-simulators.net/+ACIAPg-rec.autos.simulators+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h1+AD4-
+ADw-h2 class+AD0AIg-topic-title+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/h2+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar top+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg-
+ADw-ul+AD4- +ADw-li class+AD0AIg-pageleft+ACIAPg-Page:+ADw-/li+AD4APA-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-1.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-1+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-2.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-2+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-3.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-3+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-4.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-4+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-5.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-5+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-6.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-6+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-7.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-7+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-8.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-8+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-9.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-9+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-10.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-10+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-11.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-11+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-12.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-12+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-13.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-13+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-14.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-14+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-15.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-15+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-16.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-16+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-17.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-17+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-/ul+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p46+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile46+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Bad-Bo+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content46+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p46+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Bad-Bo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 04 Aug 2001 22:08:52+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-and of course, if you really want to then set up three machines with a +ADw-br+AD4- centre and left/right monitor with the peripheral PCs showing different +ADw-br+AD4AKgAqACo-pit views. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-All FOV issues resolved :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Friend and I have been requested (+ACE-) to set this up for his son's next big +ADw-br+AD4- party LAN game. +ADw-br+AD4- We now wish we'd kept quiet. +ADw-br+AD4- But it'll be cool to try it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Bad-Boy +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p47+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile47+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Olav K. Malm+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content47+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p47+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Olav K. Malm+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sat, 04 Aug 2001 22:56:36+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- and of course, if you really want to then set up three machines with a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- centre and left/right monitor with the peripheral PCs showing different +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAKgAqACo-pit views. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- All FOV issues resolved :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-Actually, 3 monitors will give a very vertically limited +ADw-br+AD4- picture. Check out the pictures from our simulator here at work: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-http://www.racesimcentral.net/+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-But it's no GPL. :D +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Olav K. Malmin +ADw-br+AD4- remove .spam when replying +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p48+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile48+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jim Seamu+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content48+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p48+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jim Seamu+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 00:24:41+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-
I've been driving a Ford Mondeo 2.0 and a Vauxhall Nova 1.2 these last few +ADw-br+AD4- months. At 70 mph the Mondeo is effortlessly easy whereas the Nova is +ADw-br+AD4- screaming and feels far less safe. The sense of speed is very very +ADw-br+AD4- different. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-So it's not a problem if different games give you a different sense of +ADw-br+AD4- speed - it's like that in real life as well. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jim S +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p49+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile49+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content49+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p49+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 00:23:55+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgAm-quot+ADsAJg-quot+ADs- as in +ACY-quot+ADs-about+ACY-quot+ADs-. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0---- +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy+ACEAJg-quot+ADs- -Foghorn Leghorn. +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p50+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile50+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content50+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p50+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Jan Verschuere+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 00:40:39+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-
Pretty much I think. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
180 in both the horizontal and vertical plane... I take it you misread that +ADw-br+AD4- on purpose for comic effect? +ACY-lt+ADs-g+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Point taken... I think the GPL approach is to +ACY-quot+ADs-simulate+ACY-quot+ADs- a field of vision +ADw-br+AD4- within the confined space of the monitor, the monitor itself being in the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-quot+ADs-attention+ACY-quot+ADs- zone of the player's FOV and him/her making the +ACY-quot+ADs-leap+ACY-quot+ADs- to +ADw-br+AD4- perceive it as a complete FOV in virtual reality. Works quite well as far as +ADw-br+AD4- I'm concerned. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
When you are detached sufficiently to realise you're not actually moving +ADw-br+AD4- while playing the game, it has failed to immerse you and whatever magic is +ADw-br+AD4- employed to give a realistic sense of speed is wasted. As long as it's +ADw-br+AD4- consistent with the game reality I don't see why sense of speed should be +ADw-br+AD4- enhanced. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Jan. +ADw-br+AD4- +AD0---- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p51+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile51+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content51+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p51+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 00:53:00+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- and of course, if you really want to then set up three machines with a +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- centre and left/right monitor with the peripheral PCs showing different +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADsAKgAqACo-pit views. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- All FOV issues resolved :-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-yes+ACE- +ACY-nbsp+ADs-DOOM did that. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
what game? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Gunnar +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACM-31 SUCKS+ACM-015 Tupperware MC+ACM-002 DoD+ACM-0x1B DoDRT+ACM-003 DoD:CT+ACM-4,8 Kibo: 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- to err is human -- to forgive is bovine. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p52+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile52+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gerry Aitke+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content52+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p52+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gerry Aitke+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 01:13:43+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- Let's all forget about the GPL engine shall we? I've never heard a worse +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- idea. I mean, since we're pretending to race cars, shouldn't we use software +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- that actually acts like a car? Let's just let that thing die. Just because +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- you are used to it does not mean it's good. Almost everything about the +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- interface in Papy games is wrong. Real instincts do not pay off. The games +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACo-particulars+ACo- must be learned by rote. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-It takes me about half an hour to get up to speed on a new track with +ADw-br+AD4- GPL. That's about the same time it takes me to get to grips with a new +ADw-br+AD4- circuit when I'm kart racing. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
It gives me a great sense of speed. I think the post box view helps with +ADw-br+AD4- this, the sense of speed comes from the fast moving scenery to the edge +ADw-br+AD4- of the FOV. Maybe you should try driving faster?+ADs-) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Pitch and roll you mean? Seems fine to me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Again, I'm getting all the feedback I need. And after racing a geared +ADw-br+AD4- kart for ten years (0 to 60 in 4.5seconds) I can safely say the the +ADw-br+AD4- acceleration of any racing car or bike or kart is very soon got used to +ADw-br+AD4- and ignored by the brain, unlike lateral g which no game can emulate at +ADw-br+AD4- this time. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
I can put the car right where I want to, unless +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I'm out of shape. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
With the help of my FF wheel I feel I get a great sense of the above. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Again, when I drive the Eagle it feels like I'm towing a caravan +ADw-br+AD4- compered to the Lotus. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
Looks fine to me. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-
All the points you raise are more to do with sim racing using a flat 2d +ADw-br+AD4- image for sensory input, just goes with the territory IMO. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Regards +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Gerry +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p53+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile53+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Bad-Bo+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content53+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p53+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Bad-Bo+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 01:41:34+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Friend and I have been requested (+ACE-) to set this up for his son's next +ADw-br+AD4- big +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- party LAN game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- We now wish we'd kept quiet. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- But it'll be cool to try it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- what game? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-They want to do CounterStrike and Tribes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-The dad's want GPL, SCGT ( with all the 300Mb add-ons ) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-and MB Truck Racing +ADw-br+AD4- . +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-It's a local thing we get usually get 10 friends, plus PCs. +ADw-br+AD4- Great fun for the kids and - when we throw them off - for the dad's too :-) +ADw-br+AD4- Biggest problem is finding enough strong tables and convincing the spouse +ADw-br+AD4- that you won't scratch them +ACEAIQ- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-BB +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p54+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile54+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content54+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p54+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 02:26:27+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- ... +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Friend and I have been requested (+ACE-) to set this up for his son's next +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- big +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- party LAN game. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- We now wish we'd kept quiet. +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- But it'll be cool to try it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- what game? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- They want to do CounterStrike and Tribes. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- The dad's want GPL, SCGT ( with all the 300Mb add-ons ) +ACY-nbsp+ADs-and MB Truck Racing +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- . +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-can these do multiple monitors? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Gunnar +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACM-31 SUCKS+ACM-015 Tupperware MC+ACM-002 DoD+ACM-0x1B DoDRT+ACM-003 DoD:CT+ACM-4,8 Kibo: 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- silence is FOO+ACE- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p55+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile55+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-ymenar+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content55+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p55+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-ymenar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:08:47+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Where GPL falls flat: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- IT'S A REALISTIC SENSE OF SPEED, it was proven mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- I'm sorry, but I don't think you can prove a sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-http://www.simracingmag.com/articles/contributers/01q1/niels2.shtml +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- -- Fran?ois Mnard +ACY-lt+ADs-ymenard+ACY-gt+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- -- May the Downforce be with you... +ADw-br+AD4- -- http://www.ymenard.com/ +ADw-br+AD4- -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez +ADw-br+AD4- Corporation - helping America into the New World... +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p56+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile56+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content56+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p56+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:22:32+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Don't get me wrong, I think everyone who answered this rant has valid +ADw-br+AD4- points. (Except Frank. I don't know what he has.) Believe it or not, I +ADw-br+AD4- experience GPL almost exactly like you guys do. I can compare my experience +ADw-br+AD4- to every answer I read. I understand the difference in car classes and have +ADw-br+AD4- driven more types of cars than I can remember. I also understand the +ADw-br+AD4- restrictions of the medium through which we are trying to achieve this. I'm +ADw-br+AD4- not entirely stupid. I considered going through and explaining my list, +ADw-br+AD4- point by point, but that's not important. What is important is that there +ADw-br+AD4- are other games that do those things better. As well as other functions, +ADw-br+AD4- such as the grip model in GP3 and CPR. What I'm trying to say is that GPL is +ADw-br+AD4- not the end all and be all of the PC racing experience. Actually, it is. :-) +ADw-br+AD4- BUT if you add what's good in all games, including GPL, and none of what's +ADw-br+AD4- bad, or even 90+ACU- good, into a big imaginary game called +ACY-quot+ADs-RFR+ACY-quot+ADs- then the +ADw-br+AD4- features of GPL that it would use are pretty far down the list and include +ADw-br+AD4- elements that are not experienced on the track. The driving portion of RFR +ADw-br+AD4- would have no GPL in it. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-(Please note that when I say drive model, gui, or simulation, they are all +ADw-br+AD4- elements of the same thing in my head.) +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I respect everyone's need to defend GPL. But my point is it's time to step +ADw-br+AD4- back and look at it objectively. We have enough perspective with some of the +ADw-br+AD4- newer titles (And one older one in particular.) to see the flaws in GPL. I +ADw-br+AD4- submit that anyone who is natural at GPL is so through rote. On some level +ADw-br+AD4- there is an unnecessary translation going on during game play. How do I know +ADw-br+AD4- it's unnecessary? Because of the existence of other games and from driving +ADw-br+AD4- in the static+ACoAKgAq-pit in GPL. Still very subjective, I know, but I also know +ADw-br+AD4- that while I find GP3 quite realistic and my intentions flow effortlessly +ADw-br+AD4- into (virtual) reality, that it misses on some level and it is only the fact +ADw-br+AD4- that I +ACo-get+ACo- the game that allows me to drive it in that manner. Others are +ADw-br+AD4- not so easily fooled. I can list a majority of the problems with GP3s drive +ADw-br+AD4- model but, once again, it's not germane. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I think we should wait a little before exerting all the energy needed to +ADw-br+AD4- make a killer CanAm sim. (Like I'll have anything to add...) I really want +ADw-br+AD4- to see some add-ons that feature all the great racing series. But I would be +ADw-br+AD4- saddened deeply if it were using the GPL engine. A good sim has weight and +ADw-br+AD4- consequence. A good sim rockets you sideways over bumps and let's you lock a +ADw-br+AD4- wheel without flying off the track. A good sim will let you bring it back +ADw-br+AD4- from the great beyond. A good sim will have some depth of character, a fair +ADw-br+AD4- bit of detail in the smaller workings of the moment. A good sim will let you +ADw-br+AD4- express yourself on the crowns. GPL aint it, but I see +ACo-it+ACo- just on the +ADw-br+AD4- horizon. The new sims indicate it's coming. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4APQ- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AD0- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AD0- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AD0- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +AD0- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-Just so I don't go away without saying something bad about GPL: +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-1. When I say sense of speed I mean, can I tell the difference between 95 +ADw-br+AD4- and 96 mph? Very important to my accuracy. I'm not referring to being able +ADw-br+AD4- to tell if the car is moving or not. C'mon..... +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-2. The road layout is done very well in GPL. But if you can't tell how off +ADw-br+AD4- the perspective is from this page then I don't know what to say. Yes I've +ADw-br+AD4- taken the camera lens into consideration. It's not that. Not FOV. GPL simply +ADw-br+AD4- does not follow naturally. The view does not indicate what the road is going +ADw-br+AD4- to do or where you and I fit into the equation. +ADw-br+AD4- http://www.racesimcentral.net/+ADw-br+AD4- tml +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Racing+ACE- - Science for the action minded.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-mark +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p57+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile57+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content57+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p57+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:28:09+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Sorry, didn't mean to derail the topic. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I'd love to see a good karting sim. Something about the lack of suspension +ADw-br+AD4- really separates the men from the boys. The physics model would have to be +ADw-br+AD4- dead on. So would the interface. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-And a 'real cars on real roads' kinda thing would be cool too. Sure, I've +ADw-br+AD4- driven a lowered and souped up 930 on Big Basin Way in Saratoga, CA but you +ADw-br+AD4- haven't. I know you'd like to. I wouldn't mind trying an F50 on the same +ADw-br+AD4- road. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Racing+ACE- - Science for the action minded.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-mark +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p58+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile58+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content58+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p58+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-mark jeangerar+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:30:24+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPg-Yes. Thanks Jan. Had I thought to say that, I would have. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-quot+ADs-Racing+ACE- - Science for the action minded.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-mark +ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p59+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg2+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile59+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content59+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p59+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:25:53+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Where GPL falls flat: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- IT'S A REALISTIC SENSE OF SPEED, it was proven mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- I'm sorry, but I don't think you can prove a sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- http://www.simracingmag.com/articles/contributers/01q1/niels2.shtml +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-hm. +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AIw- I define 'sense of speed' here as the amount of degrees you have to +ADw-br+AD4- +ACM- turn your head everytime the pole gets a step closer to the car. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-I don't think he's right. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-what he describes here, as far as I can +ADw-br+AD4- see, +ACY-nbsp+ADs-is speed itself. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-I think the +AF8-percieved+AF8- speed is a lot +ADw-br+AD4- trickier. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4-for one thing, your percieved speed changes if you modify only the +ADw-br+AD4- FOV. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Gunnar +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACM-31 SUCKS+ACM-015 Tupperware MC+ACM-002 DoD+ACM-0x1B DoDRT+ACM-003 DoD:CT+ACM-4,8 Kibo: 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADsAJg-quot+ADs-Det er nok ingen ovn, men fartsm?leren v?r.+ACY-quot+ADs- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-p60+ACI- class+AD0AIg-post has-profile bg1+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dl class+AD0AIg-postprofile+ACI- id+AD0AIg-profile60+ACIAPg-
+ADw-dt class+AD0AIg-has-profile-rank no-avatar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-avatar-container+ACIAPgA8-/div+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/dt+AD4-
+ADw-/dl+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-postbody+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div id+AD0AIg-post+AF8-content60+ACIAPg-
+ADw-h3 class+AD0AIg-first+ACIAPgA8-a href+AD0AIgAj-p60+ACIAPg-stupid licensing ruins everything+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/h3+AD4-
+ADw-p class+AD0AIg-author+ACIAPg-
+ADw-span class+AD0AIg-responsive-hide+ACIAPg-by +ADw-strong+AD4-Gunnar Horrigm+ADw-/strong+AD4- +ACY-raquo+ADs- +ADw-/span+AD4-Sun, 05 Aug 2001 03:28:08+ADw-/p+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-content+ACIAPgA8-p+AD4APA-div class+AD0AIg-gQuote+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4-
+ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Where GPL falls flat: +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- Sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- IT'S A REALISTIC SENSE OF SPEED, it was proven mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- I'm sorry, but I don't think you can prove a sense of speed +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-gt+ADs- +ACY-gt+ADs- mathematically. +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4AJg-gt+ADs- http://www.simracingmag.com/articles/contributers/01q1/niels2.shtml +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-hm. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-it can't be that simple, can it? +ADw-br+AD4- +ADw-p+AD4--- +ADw-br+AD4- Gunnar +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACM-31 SUCKS+ACM-015 Tupperware MC+ACM-002 DoD+ACM-0x1B DoDRT+ACM-003 DoD:CT+ACM-4,8 Kibo: 2 +ADw-br+AD4- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- +ACY-nbsp+ADs- gnus don't kill people. +ACY-nbsp+ADs-gnus-summary-lower-score kills people. +ADw-br+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-hr /+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-action-bar bottom+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-pagination+ACIAPg-
+ADw-ul+AD4- +ADw-li class+AD0AIg-pageleft+ACIAPg-Page:+ADw-/li+AD4APA-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-1.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-1+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-2.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-2+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-3.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-3+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-4.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-4+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-5.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-5+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-6.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-6+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-7.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-7+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-8.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-8+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-9.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-9+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-10.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-10+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-11.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-11+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-12.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-12+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-13.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-13+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-14.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-14+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-15.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-15+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-16.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-16+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-li+AD4APA-a href+AD0AIg-8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-17.html+ACI- role+AD0AIg-button+ACIAPg-17+ADw-/a+AD4APA-/li+AD4- +ADw-/ul+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-navbar+ACIAPg-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-inner+ACIAPg-
+ADw-br/+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div class+AD0AIg-spacedbox+ACIAPgA8-div class+AD0AIg-adbox+ACIAPg-
+ADwAIQ--- Large Footer --+AD4-
+ADw-ins class+AD0AIg-adsbygoogle+ACI-
style+AD0AIg-display:block+ACI-
data-ad-client+AD0AIg-ca-pub-4601021536021499+ACI-
data-ad-slot+AD0AIg-8598264538+ACI-
data-ad-format+AD0AIg-auto+ACI-
data-full-width-responsive+AD0AIg-true+ACIAPgA8-/ins+AD4-
+ADw-script type+AD0-'text/javascript'+AD4-
(function() +AHs-
var done +AD0- false+ADs-
var script +AD0- document.createElement('script')+ADs-
script.async +AD0- true+ADs-
script.type +AD0- 'text/javascript'+ADs-
script.src +AD0- '//pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/js/adsbygoogle.js'+ADs-
var createScript +AD0- setTimeout(
function()+AHs-
document.getElementsByTagName('HEAD').item(0).appendChild(script)+ADs-
+AH0-, 400
)+ADs-
script.onreadystatechange +AD0- script.onload +AD0- function(e) +AHs-
if (+ACE-done +ACYAJg- (+ACE-this.readyState +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'loaded' +AHwAfA- this.readyState +AD0APQ- 'complete')) +AHs-
(adsbygoogle +AD0- window.adsbygoogle +AHwAfA- +AFsAXQ-).push(+AHsAfQ-)+ADs-
+AH0-
+AH0AOw-
+AH0-)()+ADs-
+ADw-/script+AD4-
+ADw-/div+AD4APA-/div+AD4-
+ADw-div style+AD0AIg-margin:0 auto+ADs-clear:both+ADs-max-width:990px+ADs-text-align:center+ADs-padding:20px+ADsAIgA+-rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net+ACIAPg-racesimcentral.net+ADw-/a+AD4- as we could not validate the original address. Please +ADw-a href+AD0AIg-https://racesimcentral.net/contact/+ACIAPg-report any+ADw-/a+AD4- pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.+ADw-/div+AD4-
+ADw-/body+AD4-
+ADwAIQ--- 8+AF8-50dc1130056c4375+AF8-4 Fri, 07 Jan 2022 20:48:11 GMT --+AD4-
+ADw-/html+AD4-