rec.autos.simulators

> > Another example of software that does Packet Writing that most don't
know
> > about.  DriveImage creates CD's in packet written format.

> > -Larry

> > > > Actually, my guess is that they are being packet-written, and his
> Win98
> > > > doesn't have the UDF driver installed.

> > > > Packet-Written CD's (except in certain circumstances where some
> software
> > > > burners can 'close' them for use on other machines) are not a normal
> > > format
> > > > and need help.

> > > > -Larry

> > > You serious? XP uses packet writing even on a CDR? I don't think it is
> > > packet writing because when doing this drag and drop method it writes
a
> > lead
> > > in/lead out just like when you burn cdr with other software. Packet
> > writing
> > > doesn't do that.

> > It wasn't clear _how_ he wrote the CD's.  I was just discussing Packet
> > Writing in general as it seemed to fit the symptoms.

> > Another example of software that does Packet Writing that most don't
know
> > about.  DriveImage creates CD's in packet written format.

> > -Larry

> OK, but I read that url and XP doesn't do packet writing. You need 3rd
party
> software for that.

> >Yeah, but I heard the Dad (I forget his name), was a genuine, prime,
grade-A
> >*** in real life, and no one on the show could stand to be near the
guy
> >between takes :)

> Robert Reed. (useless trivia info...<g>)

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
> GPLRank - under construction...

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> > >Yeah, but I heard the Dad (I forget his name), was a genuine, prime,
> grade-A
> > >*** in real life, and no one on the show could stand to be near the
> guy
> > >between takes :)

> > Robert Reed. (useless trivia info...<g>)

> > Eldred
> > --

> Died of Aids.  (more useless trivia!)

> > Isn't that the preference of the OEM?  Don't the OEMs want to lock the
> > consumer into using just their product and their support?  A user can
order
> > a machine without an OS and purchase an "OEM" version (with qualifying
> > hardware) at a lot of places.  Or, like a lot of us have done, build
your
> > own if you have the knowledge to do so.

> Depends, as an OEM manufacturer you *can* choose to supply the OS on a
> CD instead of doing the recovery CD thing, but the cost is a fair bit
> higher, and with the low profit margin amongst OEM manufacturers, that
> is really not an option in most cases

> We offer it as an extra cost option if the customer asks for it

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
> --Groucho Marx--

> > I have one of the new LCD iMac's on order.  The one with the DVD burner
> and
> > other goodies.  I intend on offloading as much personal stuff as I can
to
> > this machine and the really superb MacOS X.

> > I have 4 PC's (including two servers) running at home that will continue
> to
> > do so for work purposes and sim racing.

> > All of my 'Digital Media' stuff and home computing will move to the
iMac.

> > This is actually kind of funny, but guess what was the first software
> > package I bought?  Yep.  Microsoft Office v.X.  LOL!  Ya can't truly
win,
> > can you :)

> > -Larry

> > > > This is what I wonder about. I have done reinstalls of 98 and 2000
on
> > two
> > > > computers, one of them a dual boot system. Now what happens to the
> > product
> > > > activation if I buy xp, and 3 years from now MS decides they no
longer
> > > offer
> > > > support for it. Will they release something to bypass activation on
it
> > so
> > > > users familiar with it can reinstall it, or will you have to buy the
> > > newest
> > > > version of windows because you cant get the older copy "activated"?

> > > Chris said to me in another post that if this comes to be then they
will
> > > offer a download that will disable the activation process. He also
said
> he
> > > has heard rumours that MS plan to make their OS rentware but isnt'
> privvy
> > to
> > > that info himself, and so have I. Bye-bye Microsoft.

> \(The

> > > >Keep in mind that during this whole process MICROSOFT had all of my
> data
> > > >locked up and held hostage by this stupid activation system.

> > > Thus setting up a scenario where MS decide to raise the activation to
> $400 or
> > > something, just out of the blue.  You'd have to pay the money, or lose
> all
> > your
> > > data.
> > > Sounds like extortion to me... :(

> > It isn't. Just ask GWB's "Department of Justice XP"(TM).

> > /Jens

> > > I can vouch for DriveImage 5.01

> >  Drive Image isn't cheap either. Cheaper than Norton Ghost though.

> Yup, bout 60-65 bucks depending where you get it I guess.
> I never thought I would need imaging software, but after getting this
clean
> install of XP and it be so rock solid, I wanted to image my drive to
another
> , so should something happen I can revert back to my previous freshly
> activated copy of XP.

> Don Burnette

> \(The

> > > >Keep in mind that during this whole process MICROSOFT had all of my
> data
> > > >locked up and held hostage by this stupid activation system.

> > > Thus setting up a scenario where MS decide to raise the activation to
> $400 or
> > > something, just out of the blue.  You'd have to pay the money, or lose
> all
> > your
> > > data.
> > > Sounds like extortion to me... :(

> > It isn't. Just ask GWB's "Department of Justice XP"(TM).

> > /Jens

> > The burning software in XP is by Roxio.  8-(  Guess what they want you
to
> > do?

> Oh geeze, so it's really Roxio Lite then. :-)

> > > Yup, bout 60-65 bucks depending where you get it I guess.
> > > I never thought I would need imaging software, but after getting this
> > clean
> > > install of XP and it be so rock solid, I wanted to image my drive to
> > another
> > > , so should something happen I can revert back to my previous freshly
> > > activated copy of XP.

> > > Don Burnette

> > I should have stuck with FAT32 then I could still be using my *free*
copy
> of
> > Ghost. Oh well, stuck with XP's system restore isn't too bad I guess.

> You can speed up XP considerably by turning off most of the Eye Candy.  If
> you want to get further into that, let me know and I'll provide some info
or
> you can search out the many articles on the web.

> -Larry

> > I just bought a new 1 ghz celeron pc for my sisters kids for christmas.
It
> > came with XP, and as nice as XP looks, it is incredibly slow. Their old
> 466
> > mhz celeron is far faster at all of the basic applications ,or at just
> > getting windows XP to recognize your mouse clicks sometimes takes an
extra
> > half second, making you think that you did not click the mouse
correctly,
> so
> > you start clicking again just about the time it starts to respond to
your
> > first mouse clicks. Thus a machine that is twice as fast in processor
> speed
> > feels less like a 1GHZ machine and more like a 300MHZ machine. I would
> hate
> > to bog my new athlon down with XP, knowing in the back of my mind that
no
> > matter how well it ran under XP it would be a bit more nimble under
> windows
> > 98 SE.  While some applications seem to run about the same under either
> > version of windows, windows itself seems really ponderous and slow about
> > responding to your commands. This on top of the whole activation fiasco
> > makes me unlikely to buy XP for the next couple of years at least. As
far
> as
> > videogames are concerned I am leaning more and more towards enjoying the
> > great pc games that are currently win 98 compatible , and eventually
> > migrating almost entirely to console games when win 98 is no longer
> > compatible with the best pc racing sims.
> > In the console world Sony's PS2 still kicks ***against even the more
> > powerful XBOX by microsoft in terms of sales, and that means that we
will
> > likely not have a monopoly in the console world for many years to come
if
> > ever.I own both xbox and ps2, and the biggest difference I tend to see
is
> > that the xbox games have greatly superior antialiasing, but overall are
> not
> > much better graphically.
> > Also, with HDTV compatibility already present in the xbox, and likely in
> the
> > PS3, PC like resolutions will be available in the near future of console
> > ***. So for me, there will be less and less reason to buy a Windows
pc
> > for *** purposes, and as far as graphics applications and video
> > applications, which is my next most favorite use of a computer, a
> Macintosh
> > will do just fine I suspect, even though I have never used a MAC.
> > But to keep big brother Microsoft from telling me how much or how often
I
> > can change my computer I will buy a MAC and learn to use it.
> > ----- Original Message -----

> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:47 AM
> > Subject: Re:

> > \(The

> > > > >Keep in mind that during this whole process MICROSOFT had all of my
> > data
> > > > >locked up and held hostage by this stupid activation system.

> > > > Thus setting up a scenario where MS decide to raise the activation
to
> > $400 or
> > > > something, just out of the blue.  You'd have to pay the money, or
lose
> > all
> > > your
> > > > data.
> > > > Sounds like extortion to me... :(

> > > It isn't. Just ask GWB's "Department of Justice XP"(TM).

> > > /Jens

> Don Burnette

> > System Restore should not equate to "back up" however.  It only deals
with
> > the condition of the system, allowing the user to retreat to a "better"
> > position.  The back up software included in both Home and Pro is more
> suited
> > to full restoration, even though a third-party program is better at
giving
> > the user a full image of the partition.  BTW - The back up software is
> > installed by default in Pro, but the user needs to manually install it
in
> > Home by going to the Utilities folder on the CD.
> > --
> > Chris H.

> > > > Yup, bout 60-65 bucks depending where you get it I guess.
> > > > I never thought I would need imaging software, but after getting
this
> > > clean
> > > > install of XP and it be so rock solid, I wanted to image my drive to
> > > another
> > > > , so should something happen I can revert back to my previous
freshly
> > > > activated copy of XP.

> > > > Don Burnette

> > > I should have stuck with FAT32 then I could still be using my *free*
> copy
> > of
> > > Ghost. Oh well, stuck with XP's system restore isn't too bad I guess.

> Don Burnette

> > Olly,

> > You can speed up XP considerably by turning off most of the Eye Candy.
If
> > you want to get further into that, let me know and I'll provide some
info
> or
> > you can search out the many articles on the web.

> > -Larry

> > > I just bought a new 1 ghz celeron pc for my sisters kids for
christmas.
> It
> > > came with XP, and as nice as XP looks, it is incredibly slow. Their
old
> > 466
> > > mhz celeron is far faster at all of the basic applications ,or at just
> > > getting windows XP to recognize your mouse clicks sometimes takes an
> extra
> > > half second, making you think that you did not click the mouse
> correctly,
> > so
> > > you start clicking again just about the time it starts to respond to
> your
> > > first mouse clicks. Thus a machine that is twice as fast in processor
> > speed
> > > feels less like a 1GHZ machine and more like a 300MHZ machine. I would
> > hate
> > > to bog my new athlon down with XP, knowing in the back of my mind that
> no
> > > matter how well it ran under XP it would be a bit more nimble under
> > windows
> > > 98 SE.  While some applications seem to run about the same under
either
> > > version of windows, windows itself seems really ponderous and slow
about
> > > responding to your commands. This on top of the whole activation
fiasco
> > > makes me unlikely to buy XP for the next couple of years at least. As
> far
> > as
> > > videogames are concerned I am leaning more and more towards enjoying
the
> > > great pc games that are currently win 98 compatible , and eventually
> > > migrating almost entirely to console games when win 98 is no longer
> > > compatible with the best pc racing sims.
> > > In the console world Sony's PS2 still kicks ***against even the more
> > > powerful XBOX by microsoft in terms of sales, and that means that we
> will
> > > likely not have a monopoly in the console world for many years to come
> if
> > > ever.I own both xbox and ps2, and the biggest difference I tend to see
> is
> > > that the xbox games have greatly superior antialiasing, but overall
are
> > not
> > > much better graphically.
> > > Also, with HDTV compatibility already present in the xbox, and likely
in
> > the
> > > PS3, PC like resolutions will be available in the near future of
console
> > > ***. So for me, there will be less and less reason to buy a Windows
> pc
> > > for *** purposes, and as far as graphics applications and video
> > > applications, which is my next most favorite use of a computer, a
> > Macintosh
> > > will do just fine I suspect, even though I have never used a MAC.
> > > But to keep big brother Microsoft from telling me how much or how
often
> I
> > > can change my computer I will buy a MAC and learn to use it.
> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re:

"Larry
> > > \(The

> > > > > >Keep in mind that during this whole process MICROSOFT had all of
my
> > > data
> > > > > >locked up and held hostage by this stupid activation system.

> > > > > Thus setting up a scenario where MS decide to raise the activation
> to
> > > $400 or
> > > > > something, just out of the blue.  You'd have to pay the money, or
> lose
> > > all
> > > > your
> > > > > data.
> > > > > Sounds like extortion to me... :(

> > > > It isn't. Just ask GWB's "Department of Justice XP"(TM).

> > > > /Jens

> > I've seen folks talk about that on the Microsoft groups, it's funny
though
> I
> > have all the eye candy on, system restore on, and indexing on, and my
> system
> > is going as fast as I could want.
> > Does system restore or indexing service have any effect on ***? I
> believe
> > they only operate in idle states correct?

> > Don Burnette

> > > Olly,

> > > You can speed up XP considerably by turning off most of the Eye Candy.
> If
> > > you want to get further into that, let me know and I'll provide some
> info
> > or
> > > you can search out the many articles on the web.

> > > -Larry

> > > > I just bought a new 1 ghz celeron pc for my sisters kids for
> christmas.
> > It
> > > > came with XP, and as nice as XP looks, it is incredibly slow. Their
> old
> > > 466
> > > > mhz celeron is far faster at all of the basic applications ,or at
just
> > > > getting windows XP to recognize your mouse clicks sometimes takes an
> > extra
> > > > half second, making you think that you did not click the mouse
> > correctly,
> > > so
> > > > you start clicking again just about the time it starts to respond to
> > your
> > > > first mouse clicks. Thus a machine that is twice as fast in
processor
> > > speed
> > > > feels less like a 1GHZ machine and more like a 300MHZ machine. I
would
> > > hate
> > > > to bog my new athlon down with XP, knowing in the back of my mind
that
> > no
> > > > matter how well it ran under XP it would be a bit more nimble under
> > > windows
> > > > 98 SE.  While some applications seem to run about the same under
> either
> > > > version of windows, windows itself seems really ponderous and slow
> about
> > > > responding to your commands. This on top of the whole activation
> fiasco
> > > > makes me unlikely to buy XP for the next couple of years at least.
As
> > far
> > > as
> > > > videogames are concerned I am leaning more and more towards enjoying
> the
> > > > great pc games that are currently win 98 compatible , and eventually
> > > > migrating almost entirely to console games when win 98 is no longer
> > > > compatible with the best pc racing sims.
> > > > In the console world Sony's PS2 still kicks ***against even the
more
> > > > powerful XBOX by microsoft in terms of sales, and that means that we
> > will
> > > > likely not have a monopoly in the console world for many years to
come
> > if
> > > > ever.I own both xbox and ps2, and the biggest difference I tend to
see
> > is
> > > > that the xbox games have greatly superior antialiasing, but overall
> are
> > > not
> > > > much better graphically.
> > > > Also, with HDTV compatibility already present in the xbox, and
likely
> in
> > > the
> > > > PS3, PC like resolutions will be available in the near future of
> console
> > > > ***. So for me, there will be less and less reason to buy a
Windows
> > pc
> > > > for *** purposes, and as far as graphics applications and video
> > > > applications, which is my next most favorite use of a computer, a
> > > Macintosh
> > > > will do just fine I suspect, even though I have never used a MAC.
> > > > But to keep big brother Microsoft from telling me how much or how
> often
> > I
> > > > can change my computer I will buy a MAC and learn to use it.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re:

> "Larry
> > > > \(The

> > > > > > >Keep in mind that during this whole process MICROSOFT had all
of
> my
> > > > data
> > > > > > >locked up and held hostage by this stupid activation system.

> > > > > > Thus setting up a scenario where MS decide to raise the
activation
> > to
> > > > $400 or
> > > > > > something, just out of the blue.  You'd have to pay the money,
or
> > lose
> > > > all
> > > > > your
> > > > > > data.
> > > > > > Sounds like extortion to me... :(

> > > > > It isn't. Just ask GWB's "Department of Justice XP"(TM).

> > > > > /Jens