Logitech WingMan Formula Force

discussed in 4,920 posts, 1998-2010 · overall tone positive

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• Logitech Wingman Force Feedback wheel support complaints 2000-04-13 · 21 posts
  GTX_SlotCar described Logitech's refusal to supply spare parts for his off-centre LWFF wheel. Others shared similarly unhelpful email support experiences, while some praised the wheel's value and quick replacements. Jens offered ball-bearing conversion kits, and others discussed replacement potentiometers.
• Logitech wheel pedals: short travel debate 1999-06-06 · 21 posts
  Asked about the Logitech Wingman Formula Force, owners praised its smooth wheel but split over its short-travel pedals, which some returned and others said you simply get used to. Richard Clegg cited a magazine claim that Jacques Villeneuve's real brake pedal travels only 1.7 cm, and posters compared learning new pedal sets to real cars. Buy.com prices and delivery were also discussed.
• Notchy Logitech Wingman Formula Force wheels 2000-03-06 · 29 posts
  Antony Bowers's new Logitech force feedback wheel developed a notchy feel within days. Others reported that China-made units often had bent motor shafts while older Taiwan-made ones stayed smooth, and Jens Schumacher described ball-bearing conversions. GTX_SlotCar explained why the spring setting should be zero for GPL, which uses constant forces.
• Alison Hine's force feedback guide for GPL 1999-08-30 · 21 posts
  Alison Hine announced a new page on her Eagle Woman GPL site comparing the Logitech and Microsoft force feedback wheels, with tips on GPL force feedback settings. Readers praised it, though Microsoft wheel owners defended their wheel against her view that it was poor in GPL. Others found her Logitech settings too light, leading to speculation about different wheel versions and driver revisions.
• Newcomer asks which sims and wheel to buy 2000-06-19 · 43 posts
  John Kozak, new to PC racing, asked which wheel and games to start with. Most recommended forgiving titles such as Sports Car GT, NFS Porsche Unleashed, NASCAR Racing 3, Viper Racing, Re-Volt, Colin McRae Rally and F1 2000 with aids, and several warned him away from GPL for now. Wheel advice compared the Logitech, Microsoft and Act Labs force-feedback wheels, especially their pedals and shift paddles; he ordered the Microsoft wheel.
• Arguments over Microsoft versus Logitech force-feedback wheels 1999-12-12 · 42 posts
  A gift-buyer's question about the Microsoft Sidewinder FF wheel set off a long argument. Shumi and others said the Microsoft wheel was imprecise and hurt frame rates, while Douglas Ellison and other owners reported no problems. Act Labs's Raymond Chow promoted the Force RS, and the exchanges grew increasingly personal.
• CTFJ utility to rescale Logitech brake pedal in GPL 1999-06-05 · 59 posts
  Brad DuTemple praised Bob Church's CTFJ 3.10 utility for rescaling the Logitech Formula Force's over-sensitive brake pedal in GPL. Church helped several users whose wheels stopped working, and Andre Warringa found the fix of resetting defaults with DXTweak. Papyrus's Randy Cassidy explained that limiting brake range only works on flat tracks because lockup depends on load, prompting a debate over whether such rescaling is an unrealistic aid; most said it merely corrected short pedal travel.
• Which PC racing wheel to buy? 2001-12-05 · 29 posts
  A buyer asked which wheel to choose. Recommendations included the Logitech MOMO, Microsoft Sidewinder FF, ACT Labs Force RS, a secondhand cable-driven Wingman Formula Force and the expensive TSW2, with warnings to avoid Thrustmaster over driver and support problems and the cheap gear-driven Logitech GP. The thread also debated how strong force feedback should be and what 'notchy' means.
• Poll of the best wheel and pedals for GPL 1999-11-15 · 43 posts
  Jazzbo ran an informal vote for the best wheel and pedals under $500 for Grand Prix Legends. The Logitech Wingman Force Feedback led, usually with replacement pedals, followed by TSW, Advantage 1, ECCI CDS4000, Act Labs Force RS and the Microsoft Sidewinder FF. Rob Gerwald of Advantage 1 described plans to expand production and possibly reach the US.
• Logitech Momo versus Microsoft force feedback wheel 2002-06-02 · 27 posts
  Brian Bowles asked whether a Momo was worth buying over his Microsoft FF wheel. Most agreed the Momo wheel itself was better but its pedals were poor, while the Microsoft pedals were the best among consumer wheels. Larry gave a detailed comparison, and Jens Schumi discussed bearing kits and pot replacements for the old Logitech wheel.
• Wiring third-party pedals to the Logitech Wingman Formula Force 2001-04-30 · 20 posts
  Jan Verschueren cautioned that the LWFF control unit may expect a certain potentiometer range, so other pedal sets might not work correctly when rewired. Several users reported that TSW, CH and Microsoft pedals worked fine, while others found unused travel at the ends, and DXTweak calibration tips were shared. A brief misunderstanding between Verschueren and Wayne Bradley ended in an apology.
• New Logitech Formula Force GP versus the original 2000-11-08 · 52 posts
  Greg Cisko and others judged the new Logitech Formula Force GP wheel worse than the original, citing its buttons, plastic feel, weak clamps and gear drive, which Act Labs' Raymond confirmed replaced cables. Many recommended buying the cheap original Logitech wheel or the Guillemot Ferrari wheel instead. Owners debated clamp designs and Windows 2000 support.
• Randy Cassidy's force feedback timing tests across wheels 1999-05-18 · 25 posts
  Papyrus's Randy Cassidy shared measurements of how long it took to issue force feedback commands on various wheels, noting that the Microsoft FF wheel's MIDI gameport link was slow and a USB version would help. He said the USB Thrustmaster Force GT was slowest but cautioned against blaming USB itself, and he could not test the Logitech in USB mode under Win95 or get the ACT Labs wheel recognised. Pat Dotson suggested an IRQ conflict for the ACT Labs wheel.
• GPL force feedback wheel not centring after crashes 1999-07-19 · 25 posts
  Greg Cisko, newly owning GPL, found his Logitech wheel stayed off-centre after spins. Others explained it was probably suspension damage from the realistic damage model, which he confirmed by turning damage off. He also found setting force feedback latency to zero in core.ini greatly improved the feel, and others offered louder tyre squeal sound packs.
• Logitech MOMO force feedback wheel spotted 2001-08-31 · 27 posts
  S.J. Rant posted an Australian retail listing for a new Logitech MOMO force-feedback wheel with a leather rim and aluminium pedals. Posters debated whether it reused the original Wingman Force Feedback or the newer GP internals, and Ashley McConnell reported that Logitech staff at ECTS told him it was gear-driven but ball-bearinged. Many were disappointed that the pedals still looked like the old weak design and that the cable drive had not returned.

Busiest threads

• Logitech Wingman Force Feedback wheel support complaints (17 posts about it)
• Logitech wheel pedals: short travel debate (17 posts about it)
• Notchy Logitech Wingman Formula Force wheels (16 posts about it)
• Alison Hine's force feedback guide for GPL (16 posts about it)
• Re: Logitech FF wheel: I really hate it (15 posts about it)
• ACT Force RS vs Logitech Formula Force!!! (15 posts about it)
• Logitech Formula Force pedals? (15 posts about it)
• Newcomer asks which sims and wheel to buy (14 posts about it)
• Arguments over Microsoft versus Logitech force-feedback wheels (14 posts about it)
• Logitech Wingman Formula Force OR Thrustmaster Formula Force GT ? (13 posts about it)
• CTFJ utility to rescale Logitech brake pedal in GPL (13 posts about it)
• Which PC racing wheel to buy? (12 posts about it)
• Logitech Formula Force Question (12 posts about it)
• LWFF Just got on, some questions one major problem! (12 posts about it)
• Poll of the best wheel and pedals for GPL (12 posts about it)

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JS · 224 Greg Cisko · 187 Andre Warringa · 116 don hodgdon · 109 Dave Henrie · 77 GTX_SlotCar · 59 Jan Verschueren · 56 BRH · 52 J · 48 Damien Smith · 46 BRH · 45 Phil Lee · 43 Joe Marques · 43 Tim O · 43 Steve Smith · 40 DPHI · 39 bertr · 35 Joe McGinn · 33 keith · 30 Chris "Hollywood" Schletter · 30

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