Please Vote: Best Wheel/Pedal for GPL

Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... Thanks, Jerryz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

TSW2!!!! Is there any other?? Don't think so!!! ;O) Cheers Thom_j.

I'm very happy with my MS Sidewinder FF Wheel. Revvin

I have the LWFF its a fine wheel but i cant believe the designers or testers approved the pedal travel or springs!!! Seems like they put all their effort in the wheel and rushed the rest, great support drivers etc.. Friend of mine purchased the Interact V4 nice wheel and good pedals doesnt seem to support dos based games without direct input aka GP2 criminal!!!!

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>Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 >(production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... >Thanks, >Jerryz >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.

I may be mistaken, but isn't the TSW2 the one that will *not* allow you to use separate axes for throttle and brake, thus making it useless for GPL? -- Joeri J. Cox Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox (Please remove NOSPAM from my e-mail address to reply) Thom j. heeft geschreven in bericht ... >TSW2!!!! Is there any other?? Don't think so!!! ;O) >Cheers Thom_j. >> Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 >> (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... >> Thanks, >> Jerryz >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >> Before you buy.

I love my LWFF and Thrustmaster T2 pedals combo.

Yes there is, SRC wheels and pedals. there's my vote. -- Kenny L. #14 Generic Chevy PRC Member Wall Scrapers Racing Team > TSW2!!!! Is there any other?? Don't think so!!! ;O) > Cheers Thom_j. > > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > Thanks, > > Jerryz > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

Act Labs Force RS Wheel + TSW2 Pedals for me. Excellent combo. --David Cook

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> Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > Thanks, > Jerryz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

ECCI CDS4000 Monza F1 :-) Ok.. so its 3 times your limit.. but what the heck.. its still the best <G> -Jacob

Advantage One. Australian made, high quality wheel from Technobyte. http://www.technobyte.com.au/Advantage1/Default.htm

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> Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > Thanks, > Jerryz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

-- Todd Norbury Norbury Technologies

You are correct, without doing some wiring upgrades it won't allow you to use seperate axis, however why doe it make it useless? Does pretty good for me in GPL. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends

Thanks for all the votes so far! Hmm, I thought more people would vote for the LWFF, I know the pedals stink, but the wheel isn't too bad when I tried it at a friend's place. The Advantage1 from Downunder seems like a real contender, but I don't believe they are distributed in the States (correct me if I am wrong). Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

You can't beat the new Advantage 1 with standard 4 button configuration, single/dual axis pedal switch and solid steel construction !!! Just wait till we get the sequential shifter happening. It'll blow you away !!!! Rob

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> Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > Thanks, > Jerryz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

Rob, Will the Advantage 1 be available in the States? > You can't beat the new Advantage 1 with standard 4 button configuration, > single/dual axis pedal switch and solid steel construction !!! Just wait

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> till we get the sequential shifter happening. It'll blow you away !!!! > Rob > > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > Thanks, > > Jerryz > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

-- Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > Thanks, > > Jerryz Been using a MSFF Wheel for almost 6months now and love it. Joel Willstein

Jaz, I beleive they will be available in the states at some stage. Not sure when though.

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> Thanks for all the votes so far! Hmm, I thought more people would vote > for the LWFF, I know the pedals stink, but the wheel isn't too bad when > I tried it at a friend's place. > The Advantage1 from Downunder seems like a real contender, but I don't > believe they are distributed in the States (correct me if I am wrong). > Jaz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

-- Todd Norbury Norbury Technologies

With my Nascar Pro, I seem to get MORE brake power with combined axis than with separate.

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> I may be mistaken, but isn't the TSW2 the one that will *not* allow you to > use separate axes for throttle and brake, thus making it useless for GPL? > -- > Joeri J. Cox > Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox > (Please remove NOSPAM from my e-mail address to reply) > Thom j. heeft geschreven in bericht ... > >TSW2!!!! Is there any other?? Don't think so!!! ;O) > >Cheers Thom_j. > >> Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > >> (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > >> Thanks, > >> Jerryz > >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > >> Before you buy.

>Thanks for all the votes so far! Hmm, I thought more people would vote >for the LWFF, I know the pedals stink, but the wheel isn't too bad when >I tried it at a friend's place. Here is a vote for the LWFF, although I do use the CH pedals rewired to the wheel. I've had the wheel for a year and it is still as good as new with no squeeks or rattles. don [|]-(_)-[|]

LWFF is my vote. I made my own custom wheel that I think is about as good as the ECCI ,but after trying force feedback in GPL I would rather use the LWFF. Oh, and yes I will be modifying the wheel and pedals, but for the money ($122.00 at NCBUY.com) the LWFF is a good deal for FF the way it comes. Lutrell

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>Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 >(production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... >Thanks, >Jerryz >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.

Jerry, The A1 has recently moved its production from Melbourne to Sydney (a distance of about 1000 miles !!!) In Sydney, we have just completed setting up the production facility and are just now getting the first new Advantage 1s off the line. There has been interest in the A1 from the US as well as Europe and we hope to get some wheels over there to you guys !!! We need to source a reliable distributor though. We hope this will happen shortly !!!! Rob

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> Rob, > Will the Advantage 1 be available in the States? > > You can't beat the new Advantage 1 with standard 4 button > configuration, > > single/dual axis pedal switch and solid steel construction !!! Just > wait > > till we get the sequential shifter happening. It'll blow you away !!!! > > Rob > > > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > > Thanks, > > > Jerryz > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy. > -- > Jaz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

>ECCI CDS4000 Monza F1 :-) Ok.. so its 3 times your limit.. but what the >heck.. its still the best <G> Bullcrap, that wheel is junk. You wouldn't know because you've never tried a good wheel. The only wheel worth owning is the ECCI CDS4000 Daytona. :-) Don McCorkle

Sure My company would be glad to assist in your endeavor. Please send a new unit right away so we may "test" the product extensively. Dave Henrie CEO PIP CIC of daveaid.com pioneers in the funding, dristrubution and creation of many things that are fun for dave's everywhere.

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> Jerry, > The A1 has recently moved its production from Melbourne to Sydney (a > distance of about 1000 miles !!!) In Sydney, we have just completed setting > up the production facility and are just now getting the first new Advantage > 1s off the line. > There has been interest in the A1 from the US as well as Europe and we hope > to get some wheels over there to you guys !!! We need to source a reliable > distributor though. We hope this will happen shortly !!!! > Rob > > Rob, > > Will the Advantage 1 be available in the States? > > > You can't beat the new Advantage 1 with standard 4 button > > configuration, > > > single/dual axis pedal switch and solid steel construction !!! Just > > wait > > > till we get the sequential shifter happening. It'll blow you away !!!! > > > Rob > > > > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jerryz > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > Before you buy. > > -- > > Jaz > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

> With my Nascar Pro, I seem to get MORE brake power with combined axis than with separate. Thats because your brake is negating the gas when you have combined axis. So not only are you engaging the brakes your immeadiatley lifting the throttle. With separate axis, you can maintain some throttle or trail brake with both the throttle and brake. dave henrie

LOL! Nice try Dave :-) // Johan

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> Sure My company would be glad to assist in your endeavor. Please send > a new unit right away so we may "test" the product extensively. > Dave Henrie > CEO PIP CIC of daveaid.com > pioneers in the funding, dristrubution and creation of > many things that are fun for dave's everywhere. > > Jerry, > > The A1 has recently moved its production from Melbourne to Sydney (a > > distance of about 1000 miles !!!) In Sydney, we have just completed setting > > up the production facility and are just now getting the first new Advantage > > 1s off the line. > > There has been interest in the A1 from the US as well as Europe and we hope > > to get some wheels over there to you guys !!! We need to source a reliable > > distributor though. We hope this will happen shortly !!!! > > Rob > > > Rob, > > > Will the Advantage 1 be available in the States? > > > > You can't beat the new Advantage 1 with standard 4 button > > > configuration, > > > > single/dual axis pedal switch and solid steel construction !!! Just > > > wait > > > > till we get the sequential shifter happening. It'll blow you away !!!! > > > > Rob > > > > > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 > > > > > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Jerryz > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > > > Before you buy. > > > -- > > > Jaz > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > > Before you buy.

Votes in so far: Model Votes LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) MSSWFF 2 SRC 1 TSW2 1 Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) Where are all the royal TSW users out there? Too busy driving I suppose ;-) Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

LWFF wheel and TSW2 pedals. -- Joe Marques

That should be 2 for Advantage 1. T. Norbury & R.Gerwald

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> Votes in so far: > Model Votes > LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > MSSWFF 2 > SRC 1 > TSW2 1 > Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) > Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) > Where are all the royal TSW users out there? Too busy driving I > suppose ;-) > Jaz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

-- Todd Norbury Norbury Technologies

ACT Force RS is my choice.

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> Votes in so far: > Model Votes > LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > MSSWFF 2 > SRC 1 > TSW2 1 > Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) > Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) > Where are all the royal TSW users out there? Too busy driving I > suppose ;-) > Jaz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

LWFF and CH pedals. I haven't tried all the available wheels and pedals on the market, but I love this combo, can't imagine a greater wheel and pedals. Andre

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>ACT Force RS is my choice. >> Votes in so far: >> Model Votes >> LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) >> ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) >> MSSWFF 2 >> SRC 1 >> TSW2 1 >> Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) >> Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) >> Where are all the royal TSW users out there? Too busy driving I >> suppose ;-) >> Jaz >> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >> Before you buy.

Thanks for the correction and additional votes, here is the latest tally: Model Votes LWFF 6 (most with non-stock pedals, CH or Thruster) Advantage1 2 (AU only) ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) Act ForceRS 2 (1 with TSW2 pedals) MSSWFF 2 SRC 1 TSW2 1 Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

My vote is for the MSFF. Joel Willstein

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> ACT Force RS is my choice. > > Votes in so far: > > Model Votes > > LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) > > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > > MSSWFF 2 > > SRC 1 > > TSW2 1 > > Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) > > Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) > > Where are all the royal TSW users out there? Too busy driving I > > suppose ;-) > > Jaz

Okay I give... wtf is LWFF ?

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> Thanks for the correction and additional votes, here is the latest > tally: > Model Votes > LWFF 6 (most with non-stock pedals, CH or Thruster) > Advantage1 2 (AU only) > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > Act ForceRS 2 (1 with TSW2 pedals) > MSSWFF 2 > SRC 1 > TSW2 1 > Jaz > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy.

I'd like to add a count for the TSW2. For an extra $15, you can get the dual-axis plug upgrade. I don't care for FF right now. Also, I personally got sick of replacing springs and other parts from plastic wheels that I bought from Best Buy etc...I'm confident my TSW will last a lifetime. Plus it feels 10x more "real". <Dan> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - For some extra money, check this out: http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=fxp816

ECCI CDS4000 anytime. Over $500, but worth every cent. -- Joeri J. Cox Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox (Please remove NOSPAM from my e-mail address to reply)

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> Votes in so far: > Model Votes > LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > MSSWFF 2 > SRC 1 > TSW2 1 > Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) > Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals)

I don't know about the "best", but I use a homebuilt TSW replica with RRC pedals, love it Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy

Problem being, that post people are only going to buy ONE set of Pedal / Wheel, hence they can only vot for what they've bought (to a greate extent)...so, my vote goes for my only candidate - MSFF...the Pedals are superb...the wheels just a bit..dunno...wierd...!? Doug

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> > Votes in so far: > > Model Votes > > LWFF 4 (most with non-stock pedals) > > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > > MSSWFF 2 > > SRC 1 > > TSW2 1 > > Advantage1 1 (manufacturer) > > Act ForceRS 1 (with TSW2 pedals) > I don't know about the "best", but I use a homebuilt TSW replica with > RRC pedals, love it > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy

I purchased a TSW1 with the single/dual axis pedal switch option already installed ($465 delivered). Fabulous feel and control in GPL. The only thing that would make it better would be force feedback, which isn't likely to happen for a TSW as an upgrade option. Could happen as a new style wheel sometime in the future, though. -Chris- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Count me as voting for the TSW1 with the single/dual axis switch on the pedals. I may buy a LWFF wheel sometime soon, though, and use the TSW pedals with it so I can have the best of both worlds. :) -Chris- Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

LWFF is Logitec Wingman Force Feedback. -- Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

Latest tally: Model Votes LWFF 6 (most with non-stock pedals, CH or Thruster) TSW 2 (TSW and 2's) Advantage1 2 (AU only) ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) Act ForceRS 2 (1 with TSW2 pedals) MSSWFF 2 SRC 1 Jaz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

TSW2, hands down. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends > Okay I give... wtf is LWFF ? > > Thanks for the correction and additional votes, here is the latest > > tally: > > Model Votes > > LWFF 6 (most with non-stock pedals, CH or Thruster) > > Advantage1 2 (AU only) > > ECCI CDS4000 2 (over $500) > > Act ForceRS 2 (1 with TSW2 pedals) > > MSSWFF 2 > > SRC 1 > > TSW2 1 > > Jaz > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy.

> Problem being, that post people are only going to buy ONE set of > Pedal / > Wheel, hence they can only vot for what they've bought Nearly correct, some people, like myself, may have owned several wheels, and tried others (say at friends houses or in stores?) I have owned a cheap plastic wheel (cannot even remember its name?) which was ***and broke after about 10 minutes. I've also got a Thrustmaster T2, which I've had for about two and a half years and still works flawlessly. And I also have an F1 Sim (formerly known as the GP500) which is an excellent wheel and pedal model. I have also tried the MS Sidewinder FF wheel, and the Saitek R4 FF wheel and the Act Labs FF wheel, all were pretty good, of these I'd probably recommend the MS FF though as it had the best "feel" of the FF wheels. Overall though, the F1 Sim is very hard to beat for pure quality and feel. 8-) *Peter* - http://www.cix.co.uk/~peterpc/home.html [address restored]

I Agree MSFF is a great wheel but what I like might not be what YOU like - you really need to form you own opinion. Go someplace like BEST BUY where they have all the wheels side by side and get a feel for them all. Of you can trust me and the previous poster and get a MSFF. You won't be sorry!

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>> > Please cast your vote for the best Wheel/Pedal combo for under $500 >> > (production models, no DIY or customized jobs)... >> > Thanks, >> > Jerryz >Been using a MSFF Wheel for almost 6months now and love it. >Joel Willstein