Logitech Formula Force pedals?

I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to be desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel? Right now I use the T2 with CH Pedals, and have absolutely loved these pedals for almost 4 years now and I am reluctant to part with them.

I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than with the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo is better.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I modified my CH Pedals so that they do the same thing the T2 pedals do. Accelerate is joystick1 y-axis up and brake is joystick1 y-axis down, so they work with every driving game I have tried them on so far. With them being setup this way, they should still work with the LWFF right? -Jeff > J. > I've used, in turn, Logitech pedals, T2 pedals, CH Propedals and back to

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> Logitech pedals with my LWFF wheel. After using the modified (stiffer > springs) Logi pedals, both of the others seemed to have TOO much travel, > just personal preference I guess. Anyhoo, the short answer is, yes you can > use other pedals with the LWFF wheel, but this may only be with GPL, which > is the ONLY application on my P.C. > > I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF > > wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I > > think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to

be > > desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you > > able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel? Right now I use > the > > T2 with CH Pedals, and have absolutely loved these pedals for almost 4 > years > > now and I am reluctant to part with them.

>I have been reading every review and comparison I can find today on FF >wheels. I am primarily focusing on reviews of the Logitech FF wheel. I >think it's safe to say that the consensus is the pedals leave a bit to be >desired. Having never actually seen this wheel combo in person, are you >able to use a different set of pedals with this wheel? Shouldn't be a problem. Make sure you clean off the sticky bits! Ben

J. I've used, in turn, Logitech pedals, T2 pedals, CH Propedals and back to Logitech pedals with my LWFF wheel. After using the modified (stiffer springs) Logi pedals, both of the others seemed to have TOO much travel, just personal preference I guess. Anyhoo, the short answer is, yes you can use other pedals with the LWFF wheel, but this may only be with GPL, which is the ONLY application on my P.C.

I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's perfect. Andre

You can only use the ch pedals and the lwff if you plug your ch in a gameport and your lwff in an usb port, because gpl recognizes more gameports. afaik no other game does this. But if you wire your ch pedals directly to you lwff, you can use it in all games. If you think you have too much travel with your ch pedal, you can allways plug something under your pedal to give it less travel. Andre

Be aware that it does not work in every game. sandor

I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my [unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both!

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> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's > perfect. > Andre > >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than

with > >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo is > >better.

You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more precise with them. Andre On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

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>I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's >> perfect. >> Andre >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than >with >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo >is >> >better.

I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more travel, maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way too soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though.

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> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can > you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such > a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more > precise with them. > Andre > On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" > >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the

CH

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> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my > >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! > >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's > >> perfect. > >> Andre > >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better

than > >with > >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals combo > >is > >> >better.

You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot. Andre On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter"

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>I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more travel, >maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way too >soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though. >> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can >> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such >> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more >> precise with them. >> Andre >> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" >> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the >CH >> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my >> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! >> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's >> >> perfect. >> >> Andre >> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better >than >> >with >> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals >combo >> >is >> >> >better.

<shrugs> Perhaps different batches. But I can definitely tell you a) there isn't all that much travel in the CH pedals [T2 pedals have far more] and b) the springs in the CH Pedals are much softer than the LWFF pedals [especially the brake although by placing the racquetball underneath it it helps]. Thats just what I've experienced...and nah, I'll keep them for Falcon4.0. :)

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> You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return > them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel > than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much > travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original > springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for > stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot. > Andre > On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" > >I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more

travel, > >maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way too

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> >soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though. > >> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can > >> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such > >> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more > >> precise with them. > >> Andre > >> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" > >> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest

the

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> >CH > >> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my > >> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! > >> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF,

it's

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> >> >> perfect. > >> >> Andre > >> >> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:35:27 -0400, "Robert Gravel" > >> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better > >than > >> >with > >> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals > >combo > >> >is > >> >> >better.

I haven't messed with this at all yet, but how do you get "other" pedals to work with the LWFF? I picked up my LWFF last Friday and don't really mind the pedals that come with it, but was just wondering out of curiousity.

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> I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH > pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my > [unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! > > I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's > > perfect. > > Andre > > >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than > with > > >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals

combo > is > > >better.

Chris, After reading your last post I decided to test what you said seeing as I've got both sets sitting here at my feet <G> . The brake pedals have what feels like the same travel but the spring on the Logi brake is way to soft. The gas pedals have close to the same travel and are close to the same but again the Logi's is too soft. Also I find the Logitech pedals just aren't comfortable. I never used pedals period until 2 weeks ago when I bought the Logitech wheel / CH Products pedal combo (on recommendation of friends and GPL racers ) so this is not a long time CH Pedal bias here. I still haven't got the hang of them but I am getting better. It's a big difference going from the paddles on my old GP1 to the CH Pedals. -- Thanks Michael Horton Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/ Home of the F2/F3 Hotlaps and http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/html/ HTML for Begineers > <shrugs> Perhaps different batches. But I can definitely tell you a) there > isn't all that much travel in the CH pedals [T2 pedals have far more] and b) > the springs in the CH Pedals are much softer than the LWFF pedals > [especially the brake although by placing the racquetball underneath it it > helps]. Thats just what I've experienced...and nah, I'll keep them for > Falcon4.0. :) > > You really have a weird set of ch pedals then and you should return > > them to your store immediately, the ch pedals have much more travel > > than the lwff (one guy actually found the ch pedals to have too much > > travel). I absolutely don;t find the springs to soft. The original > > springs of the lwff are WAY to soft, but you can exchange them for > > stiffer springs very easily, that helps a lot. > > Andre > > On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:43:17 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" > > >I dunno, maybe its the set I got. They seem to not have much more > travel, > > >maybe even less, than the LWFF pedals. Then, I find the "springs" way > too > > >soft. However, they work really well in flight sims though. > > >> You're the first one who doesn't like the CH pedals. Interesting, can > > >> you explain what you don't like about them? I found the CH pedals such > > >> a big improvement over the Logitec pedals, my braking got much more > > >> precise with them. > > >> Andre > > >> On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:59:19 -0500, "Chris \"Hollywood\" Schletter" > > >> >I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest > the > > >CH > > >> >pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my > > >> >[unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! > > >> >> I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, > it's > > >> >> perfect. > > >> >> Andre > > >> >> On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:35:27 -0400, "Robert Gravel" > > >> >> >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better > > >than > > >> >with > > >> >> >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals > > >combo > > >> >is > > >> >> >better.

Depends on the sim. In GPL you just have to make sure that the old pedals/wheel or joystick combo is on Controller ID 1 in the advanced section of Game Controllers in Windows and the Logi is on ID 2. It doesn't work as well in other sims that I've tried but if you go to [link lost in import] , Eric has some plans on there that show you how you can wire another set of pedals into the Logitech wheel. -- Thanks Michael Horton Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl/ Home of the F2/F3 Hotlaps and [link lost in import] HTML for Begineers > I haven't messed with this at all yet, but how do you get "other" pedals to > work with the LWFF? I picked up my LWFF last Friday and don't really mind > the pedals that come with it, but was just wondering out of curiousity. > > I've got the LWFF and the CHPedals [for a try], and absolute detest the CH > > pedals and much prefer the LWFF pedals to them. However, I prefer my > > [unfortunately nonworking at this time] T2 pedals to both! > > > I don't know the T2 pedals, but I use the CH pedals with my LWFF, it's > > > perfect. > > > Andre > > > >I'm currently using the Logi FF with T2 pedals and its much better than > > with > > > >the Logi pedals but...I've been told that the Logi wheel/CH pedals > combo > > is > > > >better.

No need to do even that. Works fine the other way around too, ie. LWFF on ID1 and CH Pedals on ID2 Hena