Woo hooo !!. Momo FF Steering wheel from Logitech .

Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. Handstiched leather....... Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... Force Feedback........... Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an Australian computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for new products to arrive from USA.

OOps !!. Try http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?prodId=16291&catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId= JOYSTICKS_STEERINGWHEELS "S.J. Rant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uPDj7.766$[email hidden]... > Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. >http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE

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> ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews > > I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. > > Handstiched leather....... > Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... > Force Feedback........... > > Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an

Australian > computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for newproducts > to arrive from USA. > >

OOps !!. Try http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?prodId=16291&catId=JOYSTICKS&pa... JOYSTICKS_STEERINGWHEELS http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTI...

> Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. >http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE

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> ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews > > I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. > > Handstiched leather....... > Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... > Force Feedback........... > > Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an

Australian > computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for newproducts > to arrive from USA. > Wow - it sure looks good, and it sounds even better EXCEPT... it sounds like the mechanicals are from the GP model. Which means gear-driven mechanism - most people prefer the cable-driven LWFF. Still, I'll be checking out Logitech's page for the next couple of months... P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars?

Take about 55% off. "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message news:9mn275$i3f$[email hidden]... > > Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. > > >http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE

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> > ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews > > > > I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. > > > > Handstiched leather....... > > Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... > > Force Feedback........... > > > > Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an > Australian > > computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for new > products > > to arrive from USA. > > > > Wow - it sure looks good, and it sounds even better EXCEPT... it sounds

like > the mechanicals are from the GP model. Which means gear-drivenmechanism - > most people prefer the cable-driven LWFF. Still, I'll be checking out > Logitech's page for the next couple of months... > > P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars? > >

Take about 55% off. http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTI...

OZ-$1.00 =US-$100.00 :) | > P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.273 / Virus Database: 143 - Release Date: 8/16/2001

Are you sure? It looks EXACTLY like my LWFF wheel and pedals. Ash > Wow - it sure looks good, and it sounds even better EXCEPT... it soundslike > the mechanicals are from the GP model. Which means gear-drivenmechanism -

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> most people prefer the cable-driven LWFF. Still, I'll be checking out > Logitech's page for the next couple of months... > > P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars? > > >

$220 US dollars "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message news:9mn275$i3f$[email hidden]... > > Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. > > >http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE

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> > ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews > > > > I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. > > > > Handstiched leather....... > > Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... > > Force Feedback........... > > > > Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an > Australian > > computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for new > products > > to arrive from USA. > > > > Wow - it sure looks good, and it sounds even better EXCEPT... it sounds

like > the mechanicals are from the GP model. Which means gear-drivenmechanism - > most people prefer the cable-driven LWFF. Still, I'll be checking out > Logitech's page for the next couple of months... > > P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars? > >

$220 US dollars http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTI...

On August 31 2001, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > Are you sure? It looks EXACTLY like my LWFF wheel and pedals. > > Ash I would have to agree that it does look like they have used the original LWFF wheel and pedals as the starting point for this offering. The wheel may be good with real bearings as per Jens supply (http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ ) but adding a bit of alloy will not IMO come anywhere near fixing those original pedals. If they had asked I would have been more than happy to either supply my pedals or let them copy them for a small commision<S> Cheers. MikeT.

A quick look-round reveals: <http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/0-7085-311-6966748.html?tag=st.sh.sr.pl.pr6966748> A lowest current USD price of $159.63. Hmmm.... Makes sense for Logitech to hit a marketable pricepoint above the old LWFF now that they've gone below it with the GP series. Good for them - and us too, considering how well-liked the LWFF's were. Hope they do a non-ff version. SB "cgenn27" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HtKj7.9046$[email hidden]...

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> $220 US dollars > > > "briGuy" <simagery@hot...mail.com> wrote in message > news:9mn275$i3f$[email hidden]... > > > Anybody know have more info on this wheel ?. > > > > > > http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId=JOYSTICKS_STE > > > ERINGWHEELS&prodId=16291#reviews > > > > > > I can't find any details about it on Logitechs web page. > > > > > > Handstiched leather....... > > > Aluminium gas and brake pedals........... > > > Force Feedback........... > > > > > > Whats even more surprising is that I found this while trawling an > > Australian > > > computer dealers website !!. We usually have to wait months for new > > products > > > to arrive from USA. > > > > > > > Wow - it sure looks good, and it sounds even better EXCEPT... it sounds > like > > the mechanicals are from the GP model. Which means gear-driven > mechanism - > > most people prefer the cable-driven LWFF. Still, I'll be checking out > > Logitech's page for the next couple of months... > > > > P.s.: What's the conversion rate between OZ/US dollars? > > > > > >

Hi Mike, it has ball bearings and everything, and the pedals look different too. Different tilt angle, and wider basis. I think they gave this thing a pretty stiff overhaul. Achim "MikeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On August 31 2001, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Are you sure? It looks EXACTLY like my LWFF wheel and pedals.

I'd steer clear of that, the pedals look just as bad as the original LWFF. How come Logitech don't know that in a race car you press the pedals forward and not down? Is there a lot of bus, van and HGV racing in France or something? "S.J. Rant" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lVDj7.768$[email hidden]... > OOps !!. Try >http://www.techbuy.com.au/product.asp?prodId=16291&catId=JOYSTICKS&parentId= > JOYSTICKS_STEERINGWHEELS > >

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> I'd steer clear of that, the pedals look just as bad as the original > LWFF. > > How come Logitech don't know that in a race car you press the pedals > forward > and not down? Is there a lot of bus, van and HGV racing in France or > something? >

Probably because most people don't sit on the floor (or a few inches above it). I do see your point though. -- "Life is what you experience between racing games" Galley

>How come Logitech don't know that in a race car you press the pedals forward >and not down? Is there a lot of bus, van and HGV racing in France or >something? Gee, I wonder where we can buy a sim controller that has pedals that don't go down when pressed? I'm thinking ..... NOWHERE! Dave Casey Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4) www.teamcasey.net www.lvkc.com www.buycoolcrap.com

Would be highly interested myself what the BB-conversion looks like. Sounds to me that the Logitech guys created a promotion series from the left old LWFFs. JensSchumi On 31 Aug 2001 13:45:55 GMT, [email hidden] (MikeT) wrote:

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> >I would have to agree that it does look like they have used the original >LWFF wheel and pedals as the starting point for this offering. The wheel >may be good with real bearings as per Jens supply >(http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ ) but adding a bit of alloy will not IMO >come anywhere near fixing those original pedals. > >If they had asked I would have been more than happy to either supply my >pedals or let them copy them for a small commision<S> > >Cheers. > >MikeT.

--------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -13 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Although they ARE gear driven (unfortunately IMO) Ash "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Would be highly interested myself what the BB-conversion looks like. | Sounds to me that the Logitech guys created a promotion series from theleft old | LWFFs. | | JensSchumi | |

Would be highly interested myself what the BB-conversion looks like. Sounds to me that the Logitech guys created a promotion series from the left old LWFFs. JensSchumi On 31 Aug 2001 13:45:55 GMT, [email hidden] (MikeT) wrote:

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> >I would have to agree that it does look like they have used the original >LWFF wheel and pedals as the starting point for this offering. The wheel >may be good with real bearings as per Jens supply >(http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ ) but adding a bit of alloy will not IMO >come anywhere near fixing those original pedals. > >If they had asked I would have been more than happy to either supply my >pedals or let them copy them for a small commision<S> > >Cheers. > >MikeT.

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Ash Do you know this for certain?? Where did your info come from? MikeT. On September 05 2001, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Although they ARE gear driven (unfortunately IMO) > > Ash > > "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | Would be highly interested myself what the BB-conversion looks like. > | Sounds to me that the Logitech guys created a promotion series from > the left old > | LWFFs. > | > | JensSchumi > | > |

Hi Mike, Well, at the ECTS stand I asked 2 different logitech people (i came back later for a go on it). They both told me that it was gear-driven but it was better than the standard LWFF GP and it was ballraced. It also felt like the LWFF GP and MSFF (gear driven?) - i.e. a little notchy, however it was less notchy than both of them. It was very solid feeling with little / no play. The force feedback seemed fairly good, but I reckon GP3 isnt the best implementation of FF in the world anyway. The wheel felt nice in the hand and looked the part. I didnt get a good look at the pedals but I felt them with my hand and they were blatently plastic and very similar to my own LWFF (non-GP) pedals. It was hard to feather the throttle in my boots and I didnt think they would appreciate me taking them off after wandering round ECTS all afternoon :) I think thats about all I know Ash "MikeT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| Ash | Do you know this for certain?? | | Where did your info come from? | | MikeT. | | | On September 05 2001, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: | | > Although they ARE gear driven (unfortunately IMO) | > | > Ash | > | > "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | Would be highly interested myself what the BB-conversion looks like. | > | Sounds to me that the Logitech guys created a promotion series from | > the left old | > | LWFFs. | > | | > | JensSchumi | > | | > | |

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:45:45 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi Mike, > >Well, at the ECTS stand I asked 2 different logitech people (i came back >later for a go on it). They both told me that it was gear-driven but it was<snip> >I think thats about all I know > >Ash Gear driven and the old plastic pedals - WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?? Andre

On September 05 2001, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: > They both told me that it was gear-driven but it was > better than the standard LWFF GP and it was ballraced. It also felt > like the LWFF GP and MSFF (gear driven?) - i.e. a little notchy, > however it was less notchy than both of them. Thanks for the confirmation Ash, pity they didnt resurect the old LWFF cable drive. As for the pedals, will they never learn? Looks like my old LWFF will have to keep going and going.... Cheers. MikeT.

Ash, but it looks like they transplanted the GP-guts into the non-GP casing, right? JensSchumi On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:45:45 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi Mike, > >Well, at the ECTS stand I asked 2 different logitech people (i came back<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -13 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

I think we have all the parts to keep them going and going and going and... :-) JensSchumi On 5 Sep 2001 21:36:49 GMT, [email hidden] (MikeT) wrote: <snip>> >Looks like my old LWFF will have to keep going and going.... > >Cheers. > >MikeT. --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -13 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Yeah, it definitely looks that way, but the guy insisted that it wasnt just a LWFF GP with a fancy wheel :) Ash "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Ash, | but it looks like they transplanted the GP-guts into the non-GP casing,right? | | JensSchumi | | On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:45:45 +0100, "Ashley McConnell"<[email hidden]>

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| wrote: | | >Hi Mike, | > | >Well, at the ECTS stand I asked 2 different logitech people (i came back | <snip> | --------------------------------------------- | LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: | http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ | | GPLRank: -13 | Monsters of GPL: sub 200

So why not buy one and transfer the wheel to your old LWFF and then sell the new one with your old wheel on it. :-) SLG "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Yeah, it definitely looks that way, but the guy insisted that it wasnt just >a LWFF GP with a fancy wheel :) > >Ash > >"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >| Ash, >| but it looks like they transplanted the GP-guts into the non-GP casing, >right? >| >| JensSchumi >| >| On Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:45:45 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" ><[email hidden]> >| wrote: >| >| >Hi Mike, >| > >| >Well, at the ECTS stand I asked 2 different logitech people (i came back >| <snip> >| --------------------------------------------- >| LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: >| http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ >| >| GPLRank: -13 >| Monsters of GPL: sub 200 > >

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