rec.autos.simulators

by **Jason Moy** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:48:14

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:15:54 -0500, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr."

>LOL, it was designed so that the largest states in the union could not
>overbear the smaller states just because they had more people, it had
>nothing to do with how long it takes to count votes or how far it is to a
>polling booth. LOL

Actually, while logistics played some role, the real reason for the
Elect***College was to give the most knowledgable and informed
individuals in each state the final say in the presidential election.
It was based on 2 other systems that were created for the same reason
- the College of Cardinals (who elect the Pope) and the Centurial
Assembly of the Roman Republic.

Jason

by **Jason Moy** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:53:02

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:16:11 -0500, "David G Fisher"

>Then not only were Americans more racist and sexist in the 40's, they were
>just as dumb as they are today. Those results are embarrassing and pathetic,
>and people who are so ignorant should keep their mouths shut until they are
>educated enough to give an informed opinion about a subject. Unfortunately,
>most people I see think that just because they exist, their opinions should
>be heard.

I agree with the rest of your post Dave, except for that part.

I don't think intelligence or wisdom should have any more of a bearing
on someone's right to participate in government than their race,
religion, or economic status.

Of course, race/religion/wealth are probably the 3 most important
variables at work in American politics, so I guess my argument is
semi-moot.

Jason

by **Jason Moy** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:57:39

Well said. I'd also include the Green/Reform parties, the Libertarian
party, the Socialist party, the Worker's party, etc.

I wonder what American politics would be like if people like
Washington, who supported a ban on political parties, would have
gotten their way. Even better, we should go back to the winner of the
Presidential election becoming President and the runner up being the
Vice President. Anything that would force compromise in this country
has to be good.

Jason

by **Phillip Malphrus, Jr** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:57:01

What exactly are they destroying? You just throw out a statement with no
mention of what you are talking about.

The reason there is no surplus is that the gov't has had to pay to rebuild
NYC, all the families of those that lost relatives, and operate under a
wartime philosophy since 9/11. You seem to fail to remember any of this.
Another reason there is no surplus was because of the shape the economy was
heading in BEFORE Clinton left office. The stock market was ALREADY losing
major points while Clinton was in office and the Bush Administration
inherited a recession. At least the economy has recovered a little during
the last year and a half. If you dont believe me, look it up.

by **Bob** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:11:01

Yep, 29% of Americans can't find the Pacific Ocean, but it looks like
30% of the people in the rest of the world can't find it either,
according to this quote from the CNN article.

"Only 71 percent of the surveyed Americans could locate on the map the
Pacific Ocean, the world's largest body of water. Worldwide, three in
10 of those surveyed could not correctly locate the Pacific Ocean".

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:18:32

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:34:57 -0700, "John Pancoast"

> > Lol, no kidding Phillip. I can take or leave Bush, but Clinton/Gore is
> >another story.......worthless, touchy-feely, stareyed, niave smucks.
Only
> >reason the Europeans don't like Bush, is because he isn't the push-over
> >Willy was :)

> Only reason you don't like Clinton is because he got laid.

> Aren't political arguments fun when you just throw around statements
> that don't mean anything?

> Jason

I don't know, means a lot to me.

John

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:20:04

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:28:40 -0500, "Phillip Malphrus Jr"

> >You know, all those kids referred to in that passage grew up and took
> >geography classes during the Clinton administration.

> >BTW, I think Bush knows exactly what he's doing and I can find the place
:)

> >It's funny how every Republican in the last 20 years is always referred
to
> >as stupid, whether the guy is or not.

> I don't think the Republican presidents in the last half of the 20th
> century were really great representatives of the party. Aside from
> Nixon and Ford, you basically have war mongerers and senile oil
> tycoons. It always seems like the modern young republicans get shoved
> aside for the corporate welfare southern baptist Jesse Helms wannabes.
> I guess it's a matter of whatever will carry the trailer trash in
> 'Bama come election time. If I were a Republican, I would be
> embarassed that McCain lost to Bush in the primaries in 2002.

> The GOP is a great party when they're not obsessing over religion or
> destroying 150 years of social progress. Of course, our GOP
> president/House (with the approval of the weak, limp wristed Senate)
> has already added more bloat to the govt than any leader since
> Roosevelt. Has it really only been 2 years since the government
> operated at a surplus?

> Jason

Lol, no kidding. Bush is being more big government Democrat than the Dems
themselves.

John

p.s. If you really believe Clinton's claim of a surplus, I got a bridge to
sell ya :)

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:22:16

Agreed.

John

- Show quoted text -

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:23:32

And we're also the only country in world history to be completely
self-sufficient with food. Don't talk with your mouth full :)

John

> Alex,

> They've been farming in that region for 6,000 years, and are still
farming.
> If some of it was ruined, they have an excuse.

> Americans, in the 20th and 21st century, with all the examples before us
to
> draw on, and all the knowledge we've accumulated through science and
> technology, are still ruining our soil TODAY. We've done a huge amount of
> damage in a fraction of the time.

> David G Fisher

> > Oh right...the first place to come up with irrigation...Almost forgot
> about
> > that :) Too bad they ruined all their soil from all that farming...

> > Thanks,
> > Alex

message

> > > > "JTBurn" wrote...
> > > > > People can't find Iraq. Big deal. Who would want to go
> > > > > there anyway!!!

> > > > Damn straight... it's just sand, rock and heat. Never mind the
> political
> > > > system.

> > > > Jan.
> > > > =---

> > > Right, it's just where civilization began.

> > > Writing, money, law, the first cites.......and there's nothing to see,
> > like
> > > the ancient city of Babylon and*** Gardens, one of the Seven
> Wonders
> > of
> > > the World.

> > > Even if it wasn't a big deal that only 13% can find Iraq (yea, it's ok
> to
> > be
> > > that dumb), it really should make you ill that 29% can't even find the
> > > PACIFIC OCEAN.

> > > Lol.

> > > David G Fisher

by **Uncle Feste** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:18:43

> The republicans are just as ridiculous as the Democrats. Greed drives
> Washington, not some desire to serve human kind.....
> (that reminds me of a story about a cookbook!!) :0
> dave henrie

You can't really be Dave Henrie. You sound like my clone.
Hmmm... maybe my anarchist ways are getting somewhere. :-P

--

Fester

There is a better way, for the enlightened.
http://www.racun.tk/

by **Uncle Feste** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:20:09

> http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/index.html

> These are the people that think George Bush knows what he's doing. :-)

> David G Fisher

OMFG. Figures... Feed them nothing but propaganda & this is what
results. Garbage in, garbage out.

--

Fester

There is a better way, for the enlightened.
http://www.racun.tk/

by **Uncle Feste** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 13:22:47

> Reminds me of this joke:

> Last month in preparation for the Earth Summit currently being hosted by
> South Africa, the UN conducted a world-wide survey. The only question was:

> "Would you please give your honest opinion about solutions to the food
> shortage in the rest of the world?"

> The survey was a huge failure....

> - In Africa, they didn't know what "food" meant.
> - In Eastern Europe, they didn't know what "honest" meant.
> - In Western Europe, they didn't know what "shortage" meant.
> - In China, they didn't know what "opinion" meant.
> - In the Middle East, they didn't know what "solutions" meant.
> - In South America, they didn't know what "please" meant.
> - And in the USA, they didn't know what "the rest of the world" meant.

> Sad but true....

> Mikkel

LOL. Thx for sharing some intellectual humor.

--

Fester

There is a better way, for the enlightened.
http://www.racun.tk/

by **Steve Blankenshi** » Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:18:51

Good grief. Won't Papy go ahead and rescue us from all of this by releasing
the NR2003 demo already? Getting testy around here; a sure sign of
boredom...

Or at least a demo for RS3; that oughta provide something On Topic to fight
about... ;-)

SB

> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:15:54 -0500, "Phillip Malphrus, Jr."

> >LOL, it was designed so that the largest states in the union could not
> >overbear the smaller states just because they had more people, it had
> >nothing to do with how long it takes to count votes or how far it is to a
> >polling booth. LOL

> Actually, while logistics played some role, the real reason for the
> Elect***College was to give the most knowledgable and informed
> individuals in each state the final say in the presidential election.
> It was based on 2 other systems that were created for the same reason
> - the College of Cardinals (who elect the Pope) and the Centurial
> Assembly of the Roman Republic.

> Jason

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