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by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:05:01

You seem to have missed my tongue-in-cheek point. I am not an US citizen,
but living next door in Canada, we chuckle at the frequent use of the term
communist to describe anything that isn't in-line with the current US
military position.

A majority of Americans don't even know what communism is...rattling on
about communism versus democracy.

CNN is so right wing compared to any intelligent world news source (BBC,
CBC, most anything in Europe), that to call it what you did suggests a
complete myopic misunderstanding of the US vis-a-vis the rest of the world
and a complete misunderstanding of the term communism.

Marc

> Well,

> If that's how 'you' feel about it, you are entitled to you're opinion,
> but I think you are wrong.

> > Yep, everything and everyone in the US who isn't 100% unconditionally
> > patriotic is a commie.

> > Marc

> > > 25 years ago when I was 20 I certainly didn't pay attention to world
> > > events and I was terrible at geography. But I don't believe that would
> > > have had any effect on my ability to serve my country if I had been
> > > called upon to fight.

> > > But back then we didn't have CNN 'communist new network'
> > > disrespecting the military and our commander in chief either :/

> > > Dave B

> > > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > > > These are the people that think George Bush knows what he's doing.
:-)

> > > > David G Fisher

by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:14:50

You just said it was self-sufficient in food, which requires oil to
harvest/process...so what don't you get?

Marc

> > > Without oil, any country would be in trouble.

> > I agree, but not all countries preach that they are "self sufficient"
> > when they are not.

> > iksteh

> I don't recall the US saying they're self-sufficient in oil.

> John

by **Marc Collin** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:22:23

OMG!!!!! You must be a commie!!!!!!! :)

Marc

> >You guys should remember that Kennedy would not have been president if it
> >weren't for the elect***college.

> Kennedy won that election in popular vote. It was close (a few
> hundred thousand as I recall?) but he still won.

> The elect***college and popular vote never differed in the 20th
> century. I can't remember all of the votes from the 19th century, but
> I think there may have been one where they disagreed. I'd have to
> check, tho.

> Also, I assume you're implying I'm a Democrat by using the phrase "you
> guys"? I'm a registered member of a party, actually, but it's not the
> Democrats, Greens, or Reform.

> Jason

by **John Pancoas** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:37:53

> >Get in line then, UK has already applied I believe and with our brown
> >nosing prime minister and foreign affairs minister, I have feeling
> >Norway will be applying soon too

> If only we could get the Swedish Air Force involved, I'd be interested
> in all of this. =)

> SWEDISH AIR FORCE SIM!! (*** a V8)

> Jason

Jason, have you tried Eurofighter Typhoon ? It's got some Saab fighter
jets in it, with Swedish markings.

John

by **John Pancoas** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:43:49

Ah, right..............if the US had no MidEast oil, it couldn't produce
as much food..............yeah, that's it. Wrong. Besides the fact, that
even with markedly less production, it'd still be self-sufficent in food.

John

> You just said it was self-sufficient in food, which requires oil to
> harvest/process...so what don't you get?

> Marc

> > > > Without oil, any country would be in trouble.

> > > I agree, but not all countries preach that they are "self sufficient"
> > > when they are not.

> > > iksteh

> > I don't recall the US saying they're self-sufficient in oil.

> > John

by DB » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:06:19

Wow, Marc
This thread turned into a big one. Guess it touched a nerve in allot of
people. I didn't miss your tongue in cheek point but was simply being
a reverse smart ass about what appeared to be a strong stereotype
about me.
I consider myself an open minded guy like most I think. I occasionally
watch the BBC America broadcasts because its interesting to see the
different perceptions folks have about America. I think you as a Canadian
have much more in common with us than you think. The USA is not a
Democracy but a representative Republic form of Government, Meaning
that in a pure democracy everyone has an equal vote/voice, But in a Republic
we elect officials to represent the majority on any given matter.
In a Communist state you don't have that voice, and you have no recourse
against injustice done by the state against you.
My only gripe against CNN is that they frequently IMO present news
stories based on opinion 'that is biased by politics' as factual, and don't
always seem to present both sides of an issue. Just my opinion of course.

Best to you.
Dave B

> You seem to have missed my tongue-in-cheek point. I am not an US citizen,
> but living next door in Canada, we chuckle at the frequent use of the term
> communist to describe anything that isn't in-line with the current US
> military position.

> A majority of Americans don't even know what communism is...rattling on
> about communism versus democracy.

> CNN is so right wing compared to any intelligent world news source (BBC,
> CBC, most anything in Europe), that to call it what you did suggests a
> complete myopic misunderstanding of the US vis-a-vis the rest of the world
> and a complete misunderstanding of the term communism.

> Marc

> > Well,

> > If that's how 'you' feel about it, you are entitled to you're
opinion,
> > but I think you are wrong.

> > > Yep, everything and everyone in the US who isn't 100% unconditionally
> > > patriotic is a commie.

> > > Marc

> > > > 25 years ago when I was 20 I certainly didn't pay attention to
world
> > > > events and I was terrible at geography. But I don't believe that
would
> > > > have had any effect on my ability to serve my country if I had been
> > > > called upon to fight.

> > > > But back then we didn't have CNN 'communist new network'
> > > > disrespecting the military and our commander in chief either :/

> > > > Dave B

> > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/index.html

> > > > > These are the people that think George Bush knows what he's doing.
> :-)

> > > > > David G Fisher

by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:31:11

>> And we still like the guys who brought us the Apple II,
>> the Internet, the Boeing 707 and the Moon ! Not to mention GPL and N2K2.
><snip>
>> Besides, does Dubya's GPLRank really matter ? ;)

> LOL, Xavier - good points! Thanks for your post.

> - Dave Cook

See, it still works out: GPLrank was a European/Canadian creation,
and now it's hosted in the US. Peace, everybody. ;-)

Uwe

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by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:33:49

> And don't talk to me about electric cars either. They will never catch on
> within the mass populus within our lifetime.

your lifetime (and those of your / our brethren) might be
shorter than generally expected. My favourite Unreal Tournament
Quote: "Die, B***" ;-)

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by **Ruud Dingeman** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:42:14

Actually, my feline friend, I gather it was not so much the voters but
the counters who erred last time, since the guy who seems to have had
the most votes overall mysteriously didn't win. At least that's the
impression most of us got in Europe...

Regards, Ruud

by **Ruud Dingeman** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:46:34

> I tried Christianism and Islam, but they're no GPL :)

I tried Mac and Linux religion, and the last one actually *is* GPL :)

Regards, Ruud

by **Ruud Dingeman** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:51:21

> Saddam Hussein getting 100% support from the people of Iraq for his
> next term comes IMO quite close ;-) It always makes me laugh to see
> this kind of figures from Iraq, North Korea etc =)

Ah, but that's because *their* voting system is 100 per cent *perfect*,
see?

Unlike US/Florida and such states ;)

Regards, Ruud

by **Ruud Dingeman** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:54:54

> Without oil, any country would be in trouble.

Erm... So Bush's boyfriends, emptying the US oil reserves by millions of
barrels every day, are actually getting the US in trouble right now?
Nice going ;)

Regards, Ruud

PS. Internal combustion engines are *so* 19th century tech, anyway.

by **Ruud Dingeman** » Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:02:16

>> You can't tell people who've hated each other for centuries, to join
>>hands, sing kumbaya, and expect things to be okey dokey, because some niave
>>policy makers say, "Gosh darnit, can't we all just get along and be friends
>>?"

> Rabin/Arafat anyone?

Yeah, and Nelson Mandela? Mikhail Gorbatchev? Mahatma Gandhi? Martin
Luther King?

Regards, Ruud

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