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Uwe Schuerkam

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by Uwe Schuerkam » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 05:37:14


> Nazi's *called* themselves Socialists, I could call myself rich and it
> would still be wrong

ignore him goy, it's (sic!) not worth it.

uwe

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Jason Moy

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by Jason Moy » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:01:29



Uh, the nazis were neither socialists nor libertarians.  They were
right wing conservative fascists.

Read a ***ing history book or at least have a basic understanding of
the political spectrum before posting this bullshit.

Jason

Ruud Dingeman

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by Ruud Dingeman » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:45:15



>>You are a socialist ***...not me....you dont believe in individual
>>rights I do....the Nazis were socialists....not libetarians.
> Nazi's *called* themselves Socialists, I could call myself rich and it
> would still be wrong

No matter Goy, if he's too lazy to look it up and can't even distinguish
between left (socialist) and right (nazi's) there's no hope anyway.

Kinda answers the question of this topic though  ;)

Regards, Ruud

PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:41:38

Take a look at their platform...exactly what would a socialist
nowadays disagree with...? Well ok most would say that killing all the
Jews was a bad idea..but then again sort of looks like Europe is
getting the hang of attacking the jews all over again so maybe even
thats not so far out of line.

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:42:10

Thats your only response....its why Europe is such a mess.

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:45:17

Really exactly what was their platform genius....

Ah just what the Socialistswould have you believe and since most of
Europe is Socialist just what your governments teach in school but see
if you can find their political platforms and see what differences
there are.

You dont know me...and you dont know history.

PAPA DOC
Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:02:03

Here let me help you..

Yea this sound real capitalistic....ooh yea. Dimwit...know politics
before you wake up one day to find yourselves in chains...by goofballs
like Hitler.

PAPA DOC

From Hitlers 25 points of his platform obviously I didnt put all of
them but its a pretty grim set of demands especially if you Socialists
think you are so moral.

. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that
every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and
earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole
population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the
Reich.

All citizens must possess equal rights and duties

. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or
physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the
interest of the community to the benefit of all.

That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from
work, be abolished.

Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in *** and
treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as
treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of
all war profits

 We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions

We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the
immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply
to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given
to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the
State, the provinces and municipalities.

We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national
requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners
without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The
abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in
land.

 In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German
to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into
positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of
organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The
curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to
practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of
citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We
demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever
their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health
by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor,
by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory
games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of
associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:03:34

hehe..Yea well I KNOW you havent looked it up because you think they
are on the right....

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

Goy Larse

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by Goy Larse » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:45:15




> >>You are a socialist ***...not me....you dont believe in individual
> >>rights I do....the Nazis were socialists....not libetarians.

> > Nazi's *called* themselves Socialists, I could call myself rich and it
> > would still be wrong

> No matter Goy, if he's too lazy to look it up and can't even distinguish
> between left (socialist) and right (nazi's) there's no hope anyway.

> Kinda answers the question of this topic though  ;)

LOL, yeah, fortunately I've come to know enough Americans not to judge
them all by the ways of Pierre here

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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Goy Larse

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by Goy Larse » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 18:48:59



> > Nazi's *called* themselves Socialists, I could call myself rich and it
> > would still be wrong

> ignore him goy, it's (sic!) not worth it.

Sound advice I guess.....:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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Nick

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by Nick » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 20:14:59


You just hired out a book on politics from your local library? Or was
politics last weeks 4th grade discussion?

Uncle Feste

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by Uncle Feste » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 21:26:07


> Really exactly what was their platform genius....

>>Uh, the nazis were neither socialists nor libertarians.  They were
>>right wing conservative fascists.

> Ah just what the Socialistswould have you believe and since most of
> Europe is Socialist just what your governments teach in school but see
> if you can find their political platforms and see what differences
> there are.

OMFG...

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PAPADO

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by PAPADO » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:32:07

hehe...Nos you are such a tool....its pitiful. You claim that others
dont know what they are talking about without knowing anything
yourself.

PAPA DOC

Oscar Wilde: The Soul of Man Under Socialism
Socialism, Communism, or whatever, one chooses to call it, by
converting private property into public wealth, and substituting
co-operation for competition, will restore society to its proper
condition of a thoroughly healthy organism, and ensure the material
well-being of each member of the community.

(The Soul of Man Under Socialism)

.

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Never Forget Never Forgive September 11, 2001
www.papadoc.net
Maj. Bryan Hilferty, a spokesman for the
10th Mountain Division:"If they want to bring in
more people so we can kill them,We're happy to oblige."

Jason Moy

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by Jason Moy » Fri, 06 Dec 2002 23:59:54


>He told me that politics is his forte' over in the flight-sim group.
>He doesn't even have a clue as to what socialism is, but being an
>american he's been programmed to think it is a really bad thing and is
>no better than communist Russia was. McCarthy would have been proud of
>him. Stick to cooking PD, is my advice.

It's not just him, man.  Most Americans don't have any understanding
whatsoever about politics,  Ask any average Joe on the street here
what the difference between a Democracy, Republic, Monarchy, and
Commune are and they'd have no real idea, other than that "Democracy
is the one where you're free and stuff."  I wouldn't even attempt to
explain to them what Socialism is or point out that neither a
Socialist nor Democratic (nor Democratic Socialist, since I'm blurring
economy and government here =) state has never actually existed.

Everytime I hear some idiot spout off about the US being this great
beacon for Democracy it makes me sick in my stomach.

Actually, for PapaDOC, here's a pop quiz:

1. What form of government is outlined by the Constitution of the
United States of America?
2. What economic system is in place in the United States?
3. What form of government was created by the Bolshevik revolution in
1917?
4. What economic system existed in the Soviet Union from 1917-1990?
5. The American Republican Party (the GOP) openly supports nationalism
and economic regimentation but also private ownership of industry.
Which form of government also supports nationalism, economic
regimentation, and private ownership of industry?
6. Name an existing democratic state.
7. Name an existing socialist state.

Bonus Question:  Name 2 countries from the 1930's which practiced the
form of government given in answer 5.

Jason

Goy Larse

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by Goy Larse » Sat, 07 Dec 2002 00:14:32


> hehe...Nos you are such a tool....its pitiful. You claim that others
> dont know what they are talking about without knowing anything
> yourself.

> PAPA DOC

> Oscar Wilde: The Soul of Man Under Socialism
> Socialism, Communism, or whatever, one chooses to call it, by
> converting private property into public wealth, and substituting
> co-operation for competition, will restore society to its proper
> condition of a thoroughly healthy organism, and ensure the material
> well-being of each member of the community.

> (The Soul of Man Under Socialism)

That would be the same man who wrote this....?

"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence
without civilization in between."

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

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