rec.autos.simulators

> >Actually, I did write to both Dean and Eric privately.  I waited for
> >several business days, and neither of them responded, so I went public
> >with my review.  That's when Dean reacted.

> Alison, thanks for clearing that up.  That's what I wanted to know.
> If you waited several days, then you were more than patient about it.
> I would have done the same thing.  Ultimately, its not your
> responsibility to clean up their mess.  If you make a shot in good
> faith and then feel compelled to write the truth about what happened,
> more power to you.

> Randy

> >I disagree.  If she'd resolved the problems with Dean privately, she
> >might have actually provided solutions (if any were found) to those
> >people who experienced her problems. She still could have mentioned
> >the problems and knocked points off of the game because of them, but
> >she definitely could have helped anyone who had a similar problem
> >understand and fix it.  Simply airing a complaint doesn't do anything
> >for those who might have a similar problem.  Knowing I'm not alone
> >doesn't make the game any better.

> I did contact Dean (and Eric) privately several days before posting my
> review.  I got no response till I went public with it.

> Randy, I appreciate your opinion, but I must say that *I* benefit
> greatly from knowing that I'm not alone with a particular problem.
> Somehow it makes it a little easier to stop pulling out my hair looking
> for a solution if I know that others are having the same problem - and
> not finding a solution.

> Eagle Woman

> No.  I'm just saying if she had a technical problem she might have tried to
> resolve it with MS first and then written up her experiences (both problems &
> solutions or lack of solutions) in the review.  Just to eliminate all
> possibility that its pilot-error.

> % >However, I still think the real point here is that the game
> % > should never have been released in it current state.

> % I'm sure everyone here will agree with you on this point, but
> % realistically, you can't blame them. Like it or not (I don't!),
> % Christmas is commercialized. It's all about money...

> And they ain't getting mine until it's done right.  Go ahead and feed
> the machinery that produces sub-standard and unfinished products, just
> because it's Christmas and the time of the year that people foolishly
> forget the value of money.  As long as we continue to shovel $$$$ into
> that hungry craw, we keep seeing the same results come out the other
> end.  You reap what you sow.

> On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:07:03 +0100, Ronald Stoehr

> >snip
> >> Too many people seem to know what it's like to be a software
> >> developer, and yet I don't have any way of knowing whether they're

> >> year olds are as experienced as they claim in releasing a major
> >> software package. ; )

> >That's irrelevant! You don't have to be a software developer to
> >be able to critique a racing sim that has so many glaring problems...

> The only thing that should be expected is that people critique the
> software and leave the personal flames behind.

> jeff lackey

> >> I don't blame you for leaving for a second.

> > I do. The occasional flame

> "Occasional"?? have you been reading this group for the past month?

> > is the nature of public forums, and they can be easily ignored by any
> >mature person. They are not an excuse for

> Up to a point - but day after day after day of the same complaints
> can be tiring... how many times did Dean answer the SAME
> questions over and over and over because people didn't read the
> posts from the day before? How many times did he read the SAME
> complaints over and over and over because people just like to say
> "me too"?

> I don't like it that he left, and I don't think it was good PR to leave,
> but he is, after all, a human being like the rest of us... he isn't the
> big corporate monster everyone would like to believe he is...  he
> isn't personally responsible for everything Microsoft does, yet
> people took all their frustrations with MS, tech support, and
> the weather in Seattle out on the poor guy...

> All he is a normal guy and a race fan trying to do his job and bring
> a little public comment into MS to try to improve the game to make
> it better for *us* while at the same time trying to promote his
> project and his company... who would do less?

> Sheesh...

>> >> Thanks a WHOLE lot alison.. freaking dork.. Stupid girl posts like twice
>> >> a year and then comes in here and makes Dean lose his patience and
>> >> leave.. THANKS A LOT

>> >> --
>> >> Dave Otterness

>> >    Oh yeah, this is all Alison's fault. Gee I hate you Alison :) It's
>> >got nothing to do with pathetic AI. Gee I hate girls.
>> >Hehehehehehehehehe!

>> <grin>  Thanks, Byron!

>> Actualy, I must admit that I rather like Dave Otterness' comment.  Not
>> that I'm a ***; it's just that it's so absurd, it's funny.

>Wow, the one person that I DIDN'T expect to like my post is actually the
>only person that DID like it....... Sorry Alison

> :   His nonsensical,
> : > unconnected posts seem to have that touch of someone immature attempting
> : > to impress others with his wit and intelligence.
> :
> : <SARCASM>
> : Nice one Dougie, I've *NEVER* seen another post that is "unconnected",
> : especially not to the topic of the message.. NEVER.
> : </SARCASM>

>   Heheh, if you're trying to needle me by calling me "Dougie" it's not
> going to work.  Wow, that's pretty impressive HTML work there too.  You
> learn that from one of those "Dummies" books?

>   The unconnected comment was directed at the fact that often one
> sentance in your paragraphs has nothing to do with the sentance before, or
> the one following.

>   dsh

> As a polite gesture to the NG, would you consider*** up on this
> particular thread, please? Since it's long since been centered around
> you, personally, and not around the subject of the title, it's of little
> interest and absolutely no value, except to you. Continue it in email to
> your heart's content, but get it off the board.

> Thanks

> Bart Brown