I haven't seen anyone mention this review but The Pits gave CPR their
highest rating a V8.
You can read the review at http://www.racesimcentral.net/
I haven't seen anyone mention this review but The Pits gave CPR their
highest rating a V8.
You can read the review at http://www.racesimcentral.net/
"A few other niggling points...the full screen option (shown here),
which even though it has exceptional graphics, is almost useless for
driving, as at the speeds you are doing, it doesn't draw far enough
ahead to be really useful. The non-full screen mode is great, though,
and can be used quite readily."
The reviewer talks about the need for a good 3D card to run the game,
and he has a Stealth II S220, but I thought that if you run the game
in non-full screen mode that it is not in 3D acceleration mode. What
am I missing here?
Also, I am surprised that The Pits, being the excellent and long
running sim racing resource that it is, would fail to mention the lack
of full course yellows and tire temps in their review. Those omissions
definitely take away from the "sim' aspect of the game for some of us.
Don Chapman
Probably someone who knows what they are talking about. He
recommended the Stealth II S220 instead of 3dfx. HAHA. Oh boy.
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Sean
>"A few other niggling points...the full screen option (shown here),
>which even though it has exceptional graphics, is almost useless for
>driving, as at the speeds you are doing, it doesn't draw far enough
>ahead to be really useful. The non-full screen mode is great, though,
>and can be used quite readily."
>The reviewer talks about the need for a good 3D card to run the game,
>and he has a Stealth II S220, but I thought that if you run the game
>in non-full screen mode that it is not in 3D acceleration mode. What
>am I missing here?
Oddly, only the programming experts at MS seem to know D3D well
enough to evoke this "driver" bug... ;)
Curious...
Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking... Did he complain
to five or six postmasters last month? Now, you must ask yourself one
question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do you, punk?
Hey, strange as it may sound there are actually people who like CPR! I
just can't figure out why this game is so hated in the group... It seems
like every time someone points out a good review it gets totally trashed,
then everyone has their fun insulting the reviewer, the magazine or web
site that had the AUDACITY to say something good about this sim, and
indirectly, everyone who is actually enjoying it! If you start fresh and
w/o bias, I think the hot sims out now are very comparable in quality,
playability, realism, etc; they each have their strengths and
weaknesses. Then, a few niggling complaints (some valid, some not) start
to tilt the group's opinions one way or the other... Then, it snowballs,
and bashing a certain product becomes downright fashionable and fun!
It's the only way I can figure a game like F1RS has become the darling
(of sorts) of the newsgroup and CPR is the red-headed stepchild!
I see CPR as a complete blast for a number of reasons I won't reiterate
here. I've been racing since World Circuit (F1GP) and have jumped back
and forth between all the latest sims, and I don't think there's a solo
racer out now that gives me such a feeling of being in the***pit! If
you include multiplayer experiences, I'd say it's second only to the
NROS. Now, I'm not saying my opinion is RIGHT, but when people say this
sim is a failure, that it's a complete waste of effort on behalf of TRI
and MS, when they start attacking reviewers and steering strangers away
from it in the stores, they're WRONG!
BTW, I'm in no way impugning the original poster... This is just a
little preemptive strike (or rant) against those about to toast The Pits.
Sean
>> Probably someone who knows what they are talking about. He
>> recommended the Stealth II S220 instead of 3dfx. HAHA. Oh boy.
>Granted, you can take my 3dfx card when you pry it from my cold, dead PCI
>slot (umm...or Voodoo II comes out), but what's the problem here? CPR is a
>D3D game, and 3dfx does NOT rule that roost! My Velocity 128 beats it out
>pretty consistently in graphics and speed; the difference is slight, but
>noticeable. If the S220 just sucks on general principles, forgive me; I'm
>not that familiar with the card. My point is that there are better
>alternatives than the 3dfx for D3D.
Randy
Randy Magruder
Contributing Reviewer
Digital Sportspage
http://www.digitalsports.com
No comment on the respective merits, demerits, just the facts ma'am :)
Cheers!
John
Any questions on this randy? And it is 'Greg 3DFX Cisko' not Cisco.
If you are going to try and ramrod me at least spell my freaking name
right :-)
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>> >> Probably someone who knows what they are talking about. He
>> >> recommended the Stealth II S220 instead of 3dfx. HAHA. Oh boy.
>> >Granted, you can take my 3dfx card when you pry it from my cold, dead
>PCI
>> >slot (umm...or Voodoo II comes out), but what's the problem here? CPR
>is a
>> >D3D game, and 3dfx does NOT rule that roost! My Velocity 128 beats it
>out
>> >pretty consistently in graphics and speed; the difference is slight, but
>> >noticeable. If the S220 just sucks on general principles, forgive me;
>I'm
>> >not that familiar with the card. My point is that there are better
>> >alternatives than the 3dfx for D3D.
>> Greg is a pretty diehard 3DFX evangelist. You either own one or
>> you're a blooming idiot, apparently. (I wonder if Greg knows that in
>> one quarter alone nVidia Riva boards jumped to 21% marketshare-still
>> less than the little over the slight majority of 3DFX boards out
>> there, but in a single quarter for the million mark to be reached is a
>> pretty high level of market penetration. And yes, in D3D mode, the
>> Riva 128 beats the 3DFX, and the Stealth II does as well in many
>> instances. The main argument for 3DFX is that you can run Glide *and*
>> D3D games and get great performance. No argument there. But its
>> certainly not the only board out there, nor is it always the fastest.
>> But of course all of this will be lost on Greg 3DFX Cisco, because
>> he's ill-equipped to tolerate others who differ with him on their
>> choice of hardware and software.
>> Randy
>> Randy Magruder
>> Contributing Reviewer
>> Digital Sportspage
>> http://www.digitalsports.com
OK good phew... One thing you should understand is that I am a
flightsim person in addition to racing sims. 3dfx is the only choice
for flightsims too :-) Try running Longbow2 on a RIVA :-)
Oh I'm equipped to tolerate it. I just choose not to for a while. 3dfx
is the obvious choice and I am constantly amazed at the clueless
who cannot get it. Either they don't know what it means or they refuse
to understand it. It really is as simple as that. Sorry if it offends you.
Believe it or not that really is not my intent.
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I have to put my two cents worth in here. I own a Gateway 266 that came
with a velocity 128, and I have yet to get a piece of software that I own
other then Monster Truck Madness to use d3d acceleration without the game
crashing, so I can't say that the card works better than 3dfx. I bought a
Monster 3d a month ago and My computer absolutely blazes with the two cards
working together.
> >> Probably someone who knows what they are talking about. He
> >> recommended the Stealth II S220 instead of 3dfx. HAHA. Oh boy.
> >Granted, you can take my 3dfx card when you pry it from my cold, dead
PCI
> >slot (umm...or Voodoo II comes out), but what's the problem here? CPR
is a
> >D3D game, and 3dfx does NOT rule that roost! My Velocity 128 beats it
out
> >pretty consistently in graphics and speed; the difference is slight, but
> >noticeable. If the S220 just sucks on general principles, forgive me;
I'm
> >not that familiar with the card. My point is that there are better
> >alternatives than the 3dfx for D3D.
> Greg is a pretty diehard 3DFX evangelist. You either own one or
> you're a blooming idiot, apparently. (I wonder if Greg knows that in
> one quarter alone nVidia Riva boards jumped to 21% marketshare-still
> less than the little over the slight majority of 3DFX boards out
> there, but in a single quarter for the million mark to be reached is a
> pretty high level of market penetration. And yes, in D3D mode, the
> Riva 128 beats the 3DFX, and the Stealth II does as well in many
> instances. The main argument for 3DFX is that you can run Glide *and*
> D3D games and get great performance. No argument there. But its
> certainly not the only board out there, nor is it always the fastest.
> But of course all of this will be lost on Greg 3DFX Cisco, because
> he's ill-equipped to tolerate others who differ with him on their
> choice of hardware and software.
> Randy
> Randy Magruder
> Contributing Reviewer
> Digital Sportspage
> http://www.digitalsports.com
I agree with you. I love CPR for its graphics. I played Sony PlayStation's
F1RS as well as the PC demo. But CPR has a more sense of graphical realism
(cockpit view and beautiful textures) As we all know, CPR has problems
with framerate during a 12 cars race, "underskilled" AI, and.....that's the
only complain that I have about CPR.
You've done an excellent job confirming Randy's accusations...
Sean
> > Oh I'm equipped to tolerate it. I just choose not to for a while. 3dfx
> > is the obvious choice and I am constantly amazed at the clueless
> > who cannot get it.
> Some might draw the conclusion that YOU are the clueless one: you admit to
> being deliberately intolerant and feel comfortable suggesting that one should
> use a SLOWER card (not to mention the washed-out colors) for a D3D game?
> You've done an excellent job confirming Randy's accusations...
BTW, if a card that much older is that little slower, what does it say
about
the rest...?
l8er
ronny
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Oh boy you are too funny. Yes I recommend the 3dfx card even for
Direct3D. Anyone who would recommend Direct3D over glide is
rather clueless too. I guess you don't know much about this stuff.
That is fine. Have you tried playing Longbow2 or Jetfighter3 with
a Riva card?
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>> Oh I'm equipped to tolerate it. I just choose not to for a while. 3dfx
>> is the obvious choice and I am constantly amazed at the clueless
>> who cannot get it.
>Some might draw the conclusion that YOU are the clueless one: you admit to
>being deliberately intolerant and feel comfortable suggesting that one
should
>use a SLOWER card (not to mention the washed-out colors) for a D3D game?
>You've done an excellent job confirming Randy's accusations...
>Sean