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Another good CPR review

John Walla

Another good CPR review

by John Walla » Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:00:00



>>It's pretty easy to grab market share in an expanding market, again
>>you can't read much into that.

>Its a million units in a single quarter John.  That's not chickenfeed.

It is if your competitors are selling three oe four million. The point
I was making is that _unit_ sales in a new and expanding market are
meaningless, and even market share is misleading since the consumers
have no prior experience to base buying decisions upon and it is
easier for an inferior product to buy market share and sales without
the ramifications being understood.

A million units may well be chickenfeed in the long term if all you do
is***off a million potential future customers. I don't think that's
what RIVA did, I'm simply using it as an example to explode the
theory.

Cheers!
John

Randy Magrud

Another good CPR review

by Randy Magrud » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>>Its a million units in a single quarter John.  That's not chickenfeed.

>It is if your competitors are selling three oe four million.

No.  Chickenfeed would be a lot less than 21% marketshare.  To capture
that much marketshare in a single quarter is a success no matter what
you think of the hardware.

How did they do that?

Randy
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John Walla

Another good CPR review

by John Walla » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00



>>>Its a million units in a single quarter John.  That's not chickenfeed.

>>It is if your competitors are selling three oe four million.

>No.  Chickenfeed would be a lot less than 21% marketshare.  To capture
>that much marketshare in a single quarter is a success no matter what
>you think of the hardware.

If there is _no_ market at all (as in the case of 3D hardware),
marketshare is releatively meaningless as a measure of product
quality, since you selling into a new market where the majority of
buyers have little product knowledge. Capturing that much market share
is of course a success, but you can't extrapolate that to determine
that the product itself was of good quality as you were doing - you
can deduce that the product was a commercial success, but it doesn't
automatically follow that the product was good.

I didn't say they did - it's a hypothetical example.

Cheers!
John

Greg Cisk

Another good CPR review

by Greg Cisk » Sun, 01 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>buyers have little product knowledge. Capturing that much market share
>is of course a success, but you can't extrapolate that to determine
>that the product itself was of good quality as you were doing - you

I agree. Imagine all those pissed off Riva owners who will probably
be buying 3dfx anyway. Most likely they have a Riva because they
got it new in a Gateway 2000. It isn't like they went to CompUSA
and picked the card.

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Mikes Design

Another good CPR review

by Mikes Design » Mon, 02 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Hi Greg,
            Actually I was one of those pissed off Riva guys. In fact I
really got into it with a Tech service manager at Dell when I told him I
wanted to exchange + pay if necessary to upgrade to any other card. He had
the nerve to tell me no way as I voided my warranty by trying to run a 3d
type program on it and its not for that! Hehehe man was I surprised. I went
on to tell him whaaaaaaa? Then I told him he should read up on what they
are selling as obviously he didn't know what he was talking about. But I
must say after installing STBs new 1.32 drivers I am more than happy with
the 30+fps I get with all detail on in CPR. As far as 3dfx goes I always
intended to get a Canopus but with the V2 due out so soon I thought I would
wait. Canopus told me when I called them their V2 is coming out in May 98.
I am still tempted to try their Pure 3d as its back in stock Feb2 but what
they say about V2 means I would only want to change again in May. BTW this
was my only bad experience with Dell as they are usually on the ball. Cya,
Mike



Antti Markus Pete

Another good CPR review

by Antti Markus Pete » Mon, 02 Feb 1998 04:00:00


Yes, you certainly need imagination to come up with that.

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