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Reset my linearity just a tad more linear from its current setting of
about 2/3rds non-linear proceeded to Rouen which was the next track that
I had planned to practice on anyway.

Whoa!!  Cars a bit wobbly on the straight now coz I don't need to be so
accentuated with the steering wheel, also I'm oversteering into corners
and running up curbs a bit too much.  Tell myself not to put so much
input in, smaller is better.   Mmm, this is not bad.  Hard braking still
in a straight line and first couple of laps aren't too shabby either.
Under 2 mins but not near my PB of 1:57.79 with the wheel.

I hit F3 and think about shifting slightly more linear and then, at the
last possible second decide, 'Oh, Sod it!!  Let's shift it right over!'.

Back on track with full linear now and the car is now needing very
little input to get the wheels turning.  Once again plenty of
oversteering towards curbs on the inside, but somehow what I'm sure
would have been a big mess under the old settings I managed to grab hold
of each time and keep the car going down the track.

By lap 10 and the laps are getting better with some already in the low
1:58s and high 1:57s and then I manage one just 1/100th off my PB.  I'm
still not consistent, and I'm sure that with a lap that I get everything
right on and my old time is going to tumble.  By lap 16 I'm starting to
get quite aggressive with my driving as my confidence grows, perhaps too
aggressive as I drift too wide and brake too late on nearly every other
corner all the way up to the back stretch, but  I manage to keep the car
going and the last 2 corners are pretty good.  My next lap is rather
poor though, but as I come to the end of it what do I see but a 1:57:47
for the previous lap staring back at me from the pit board.  Yeah!!

Ok, off to Monza where my best is 1:28.23.  Now I'm getting the hang of
this and I'm in the mid 1:28s pretty early, but can't quite put in a lap
better than my current best time with a best of 1:28.37.  Still, there
are times when the cars well out of shape and yet I'm now able to
somehow wrestle it all back in line so much easier.   And then, on lap
16 a manage a 1:28.05.  Great stuff!!

So, all I can say is.  "I'm a BELIEVER!!"  Less than 35 laps with the
new settings and already 2 new PBs.  Now, how about that Ring time? :)
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Outstanding!  Glad to see how well it worked for you.  I can see
there'll not be much sleep for you this weekend.  ;-)

--

Fester

I just did the same: 0%/0% deadzone, down from 5%/5% (already at almost
fully linear). Went tooling around the Ring. Oh, much much nicer. It's as if
someone went in and tightened a bunch of loose bolts. I no longer have to
wait for the force feedback to transmit: it's always there. Glad the
weekend's almost here.

--Jeff

| Mmmm... gonna try this myself.
|


| > Right, downloaded DxTweak plus some other utils that I didn't use in the
| >
| <snip>
| >
| > So, all I can say is.  "I'm a BELIEVER!!"  Less than 35 laps with the
| > new settings and already 2 new PBs.  Now, how about that Ring time? :)
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| > GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -14.08
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Quote -  "Right, downloaded DxTweak plus some other utils that I didn't use
in the
end... still, loaded up DxTweak and set my deadzone for both x and y
axis to 0 and then booted up GPL.

Reset my linearity just a tad more linear from its current setting of
about 2/3rds non-linear proceeded to Rouen which was the next track that
I had planned to practice on anyway.

Whoa!!  Cars a bit wobbly on the straight now coz I don't need to be so
accentuated with the steering wheel, also I'm oversteering into corners
and running up curbs a bit too much.  Tell myself not to put so much
input in, smaller is better.   Mmm, this is not bad.  Hard braking still
in a straight line and first couple of laps aren't too shabby either.
Under 2 mins but not near my PB of 1:57.79 with the wheel.

I hit F3 and think about shifting slightly more linear and then, at the
last possible second decide, 'Oh, Sod it!!  Let's shift it right over!'.

Back on track with full linear now and the car is now needing very
little input to get the wheels turning.  Once again plenty of
oversteering towards curbs on the inside, but somehow what I'm sure
would have been a big mess under the old settings I managed to grab hold
of each time and keep the car going down the track.

By lap 10 and the laps are getting better with some already in the low
1:58s and high 1:57s and then I manage one just 1/100th off my PB.  I'm
still not consistent, and I'm sure that with a lap that I get everything
right on and my old time is going to tumble.  By lap 16 I'm starting to
get quite aggressive with my driving as my confidence grows, perhaps too
aggressive as I drift too wide and brake too late on nearly every other
corner all the way up to the back stretch, but  I manage to keep the car
going and the last 2 corners are pretty good.  My next lap is rather
poor though, but as I come to the end of it what do I see but a 1:57:47
for the previous lap staring back at me from the pit board.  Yeah!!

Ok, off to Monza where my best is 1:28.23.  Now I'm getting the hang of
this and I'm in the mid 1:28s pretty early, but can't quite put in a lap
better than my current best time with a best of 1:28.37.  Still, there
are times when the cars well out of shape and yet I'm now able to
somehow wrestle it all back in line so much easier.   And then, on lap
16 a manage a 1:28.05.  Great stuff!!

So, all I can say is.  "I'm a BELIEVER!!"  Less than 35 laps with the
new settings and already 2 new PBs.  Now, how about that Ring time? :)
--
Peter Ives
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GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -14.08"

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| This is what he posted, and what I'm gonna try Thom :)
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I'm gonna stick with 20% for now.  I also turned off the low-speed
sterring-hack thingy (for getting out of the pits) since I thought it might
be affecting my driving in the slow corners at the ring.

Going well so far, just need some tranquilizers or pot or something to stop
me tensing up in the second half of the lap at the ring ;)  Hehe

<snippage>

<and yet more snipped>

I know exactly what you mean!

When I know that I am on a good lap, I start to get a *seriously* raised
pulse.  By the time I'm rounding the bend before the long straight, the
adrenaline levels in my body would probably constitute a medical emergency!

This program should come with a health warning :-)

Ian

One other thing, the Ring looks like becoming my nemesis more so than
ever.  On all other tracks with my new settings it has been relatively
easy to improve my PBs.  Not so at the Ring.  Despite how hard I push in
an attempt to eek out that extra bit of speed through and out of the
corners, my times always end up about the same - 2 seconds off of my
current PB and 15 seconds off of my old joystick time.  You know that
feeling when you have had what was definitely a storming lap and you
breath a sigh of relief as you finally make it back to the s/f line,
saying to yourself, 'That's gotta be quicker.  I was really on the
limit!'.  Only to see the same old time pop up on the pitboard.
Aaargghh!!

After that I think to myself, 'But I can't go any faster.  Surely I'm
taking each corner as quickly as I can.  It certainly feels that way.'
However, I know that's not true because, what feels like a lap on the
edge, would have been a bit of a cruise for the same laptime with my
joystick and that's plain weird.

And whilst I'm at it, one thing that really, really bugs me at the Ring
is how easy the car spins out if you put even the smallest piece of your
back wheel on the grass.  I checked a replay after such an incident and
the merest fraction of the edge of the outside rear tyre made contact
and around I went.  Grrrrr!

Anyway, it's now the Ring all the way for me as I don't like to upload a
new GPLrank until all tracks have been improved upon over the previous
upload.  Unfortunately that just leaves this one remaining track.  Looks
like I'm in for a looonnnggg night.  :)
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| I've just tried moving the linearity bar from about 40% (-----+-------) to
| about 20% (---+---------) and the difference was immediate.  It felt like
I
| had a lot more control of the car, particularly in slow corners.  I also
| tried moving it full left (+------------) but that may take a while to get
| used to, since the car is wobbling all over the place.
|
| I'm gonna stick with 20% for now.  I also turned off the low-speed
| sterring-hack thingy (for getting out of the pits) since I thought it
might
| be affecting my driving in the slow corners at the ring.
|
| Going well so far, just need some tranquilizers or pot or something to
stop
| me tensing up in the second half of the lap at the ring ;)  Hehe
|


| > This is exactly what I have been doing for 2yrs Simon..lol Plus I set
all
| > my steer locks [in my setups] to 11:1 to 8:1 Nutz huh? I love to barely
| > touch the wheel and it turns!! Kinda' obvious with Peter's post and my
| > really low steer locks...eh?? It works for me tho'..
| > Even more so now using my FF race wheel! Really nice! Now I wish
| > I could get my times close to Peter's :o(...lol But its tuff using
paddles
| > for gas/brake, buttons for shifting and clutch plus steering all with my
| > hands! I'll get there tho'..:-) Thanx Again for re-posting!! Thom_j.
| >

| > | This is what he posted, and what I'm gonna try Thom :)
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| I know exactly what you mean!
| When I know that I am on a good lap, I start to get a *seriously* raised
| pulse.  By the time I'm rounding the bend before the long straight, the
| adrenaline levels in my body would probably constitute a medical
emergency!
| This program should come with a health warning :-)
| Ian

| <snippage>
| > Going well so far, just need some tranquilizers or pot or something to
| stop
| > me tensing up in the second half of the lap at the ring ;)  Hehe
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Hoo ***y Ray!!  Didn't take that long after all.  8:18.80, only .2
better, but who cares?  I don't. :)

All managed from end of long straight near end of lap.  Was probably
about a second down on previous best and then made it all up from there.
Yes!!
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| Anyway, it's now the Ring all the way for me as I don't like to upload a
| new GPLrank until all tracks have been improved upon over the previous
| upload.  Unfortunately that just leaves this one remaining track.  Looks
| like I'm in for a looonnnggg night.  :)
| --
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