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I also think that you need to attack to get good time there.
Recently, I've had a lap. At the 1/2 point I knew I was doing
excellent lap, so I decided to make sure that I finish it.
Nice clean smooth driving with no mistakes on the second half
of the lap. Crash in the last corner. Damn! I've never crashed
there before. I've looked at the lap in Replay Analyzer. I was
more than 5 seconds faster than my PB at 50% mark. At 75% mark
it was just a little over 2 second of gap (I lost more than 3
seconds without making mistakes). In the last corner just before
I crashed I was almost a second slower than PB.

Alex
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Thanks,

Jan.
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The funny thing is, an 8:22 lap doesn't feel much faster than 8:32.  Also to
get that time I did somewhere between 5 and 10 laps every day for 4 or 5
days.  That's got to make a big difference, having done lots of recent laps.

I'm just downloading your ring Ferrari lap from your website, so I'll see if
theres anything I can suggest.

Oh I forgot to tell that, I turned the hack off a couple of days ago
and I feel it helps a lot at the ring. The constant switch between
slower and faster corners on the Ring are not really suited for using
the hack. I turn it back on for track like Rouen, Mexico and Monaco
though, easier to take the hairpins then.

Headphones are quite usefull since you don't get disturbed by sounds
from the outside. I also get drawn into a(ny) game much more when I
wear headphones.
Real fun is when I turn the lights out, put on my 3d glasses and wear
my headphones. It's like -being there- :)

Andre

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I live alone, so I don't have to worry about many distracting noises...

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Rob (who has done one 8:22 in his life and now struggles to get consistently
under 8:30).

| The depressing thing is, 8:22 is only 2% faster than 8:32, so it's not
| really surprising it doesn't feel any faster.
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| Rob (who has done one 8:22 in his life and now struggles to get
consistently
| under 8:30).

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First, braking into turn one, I see a huge column of thick smoke coming from
your brakes.  I'm sure you've read this before but if the brakes are locked
you are losing braking effeciency and risking a spin.  The tyres shouldn't
stop rotating and there shouldn't be any smoke.  Gentlty squeeze the brakes.
Having said that, you only locked the brakes a few times really on the rest
of the lap.

Second, up-shifts.  You're not getting the best acceleration from your
Ferrari because you are shifting too short of the red-line.  The red-line is
11,000 on the Ferrari, and a normal shift should be 10,500 to 10,800.
Between 10,000 and 10,800 the car is still accelerating really well.  If you
shift at 10,000, you end up with too low revs in the next gear, which
compromises the cars acceleration.  Try to get used to shifting 500+ rpm
higher.

Those are just a few little technical details, the main problem I can see
with your Ring lap is that you don't have really *intimate* track knowledge.
By that I mean your driving style generally seems quite tentative, like you
don't know how fast you should be taking a lot of the corners.  Looking at
your other times on GPLRank, there's no way you are a slow driver, most of
your times are every bit as good as mine, so you must a better driver than
that lap shows.  There's lots of corners you're not getting the power down
properly out of, and bits where you should be flat out but aren't.

The only way to fix this is to do a lot of laps in a short space of time, so
the laps count.  What you gain in terms of track knowledge from driving a
lap soon fades, so you have to do lots of laps together over a week or two.
Also, you could try driving the Cooper.  The Ferrari can be a bit wobbly
under braking from time to time, whereas the Cooper is really well behaved.
You should find you are more confident in the Cooper and can attack the
track more.  Then when you feel you're pushing the Cooper to it's limits and
getting consistent with it, switch back to the Ferrari and you should beat
your PB.

You're probably thinking I've got a cheek to speak badly of your driving
when I was only 2 seconds faster than you on GPLRank this time last week ;)

I've uploaded my PB lap here -
http://www.sbdev.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/replay.zip if you want to take a look.
Don't worry about the time, and forget it's in a Lotus, just look at the
general 'approach', the amount of throttle I use, particularly in the middle
and exit of corners.  I think seeing it should convince you how much better
you need to learn the track to improve.

Good luck :)
Simon.

| Well Thom j, this should make it even worse: 8:50 is only about 5% slower
| than 8:22. Racing is all about those leeeetle teeeny differences...

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To tell you the truth, I shift purely by sound.  When it sounds like the engine
is revving too high, I shift.  I couldn't tell you *where*(number-wise) I
shift, because I don't know what the markings on the tach represent.    I
couldn't find the gauges explained clearly enough anywhere, and don't even look
at them...

Well, I know where the track goes, meaning I know what the next turn is.  But
you're correct, I don't know how fast to take the corners.  The only thing I
can know for sure is when it's too fast, because at that point I'm sliding
backwards towards something.
But the thing is, I *already* feel like I'm on the limit(just barely staying on
the track).  It's hard for me to see how I can take a particular corner FASTER
than I am now...

We'll see.  I've run 15 laps over a weekend before, with no improvement.

Eldred

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