rec.autos.simulators

I am using joystick with the game
setting to all linear and 20:1 ratio
for the steering I still find myself
going erratic.

After alot of laps, I realised it is the deadzone
that is giving me the problems.
Every little bit seems to be affected .
It does not stay centre very well.

Is there any way to adjust deadzone within the game ?

I am using MS sidewinder 3D.

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regards

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Singapore

The linear setting is better for steering wheels where you have more
control in the centre position.

The easiest way to see what's happening is to turn on the "driver's
arms" feature and watch what happens to the on-screen wheel as you move
the joystick from side to side.

You know, everytime I spend 2~3hrs on it
and did get much progress,
I would get really frustrated
and delete the whole game and tell myself
never to touch it again till I get a wheel.

then within 1 day or so, I get to thinking
maybe I should give it a little more time.....

then I would install and before you know it
already started the uninstall...........urrghhhhh

that what the game does to me

| >
| > Hi
| >
| > I am using joystick with the game
| > setting to all linear and 20:1 ratio
| > for the steering I still find myself
| > going erratic.
| >
| > After alot of laps, I realised it is the deadzone
| > that is giving me the problems.
| > Every little bit seems to be affected .
| > It does not stay centre very well.
| >
| > Is there any way to adjust deadzone within the game ?
|
| I believe you need to set the steering *non-linear*, as
that will give
| you a kind of deadzone in the middle (the response is
more gradual in
| the centre and speeds up towards the extremes).
|
| The linear setting is better for steering wheels where
you have more
| control in the centre position.
|
| The easiest way to see what's happening is to turn on the
"driver's
| arms" feature and watch what happens to the on-screen
wheel as you move
| the joystick from side to side.
|

Maybe he'd be even faster with a wheel, though!

I will admit that the deadspot thing with a joystick can be troublesome. I
have  2 sidewinders. One is a dream to use but with the other one, it is
impossible to keep the car straight.

Leong, I have a utility for setting dead zones. Mail me and I'll forward it
to you.

Mark

Regards

Mark

  Now onto the real rubbish. Introducing deliberate dead zone is
completely lame. And that's not a guess, that's a 100% fact! Why should
he frig around with dead zones and do things the idiots way when all he
needs do is shift a slider however far right he needs to to solve his
problem? Nonsense! ICR2 had a non linear setting for quote "joysticks"
and the linear setting for quote "wheels". I have a wheel and use full
non linear myself!

I want to know this guy Wolfgang,
and ask him for some real professional help
( before I go bald pulling my hair out ) :-0

| >
| > GOOD GOD
| > that's what's wrong !
| > and to think I deleted the full install........urrrghhh
| >
| > You know, everytime I spend 2~3hrs on it
| > and did get much progress,
| > I would get really frustrated
| > and delete the whole game and tell myself
| > never to touch it again till I get a wheel.
|
| I don't think you need to use a wheel to play GPL -
Wolfgang Woeger,
| probably the fastest GPL driver in the world, apparently
uses a
| joystick!
|
| Maybe he'd be even faster with a wheel, though!
|

thanks a lot for sending me the DEADZONE file.
this is ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTFUL !

It really did improve my driving,
in fact it is so good that I am now consistently
on the road.

I had not been able to stay on the track previous to
this deadzone adjustment,
The transition between accel and hard braking
had always thrown me off
It fact it was so bad I was developing so kind
of "phobia " about hard braking.
But Joystick drivers  have no choice

I also now more aware of the limits of hard braking,
constantly pulling back less to find the slip-limit
to keep the wheel from locking.

This deadzone adjustment is a MUST for anyone
using a joystick.
Now it feels a little like Need for Speed 5   :-0

| Sorry Byron my wording might have been a bit strong
there. no offence meant
| mate. In my experience with GPL and joystick linearity,
putting the slider
| all the way to the right will stop the car jittering
along straights but
| still has the effect of making the car drift from side to
side and hence
| necessitating constant input from the stick anyway. Sure
the effect is
| lessened to some degree in the form of "damping" the
oscillations but it is
| still evident. By introducing a deadspot (and I mean a
small one, maybe 3 -
| 4%) I have cured the problem altogether with my wayward
Sidewinder.
|
| Regards
|
| Mark


| > Absolute rubbish?? Gee, and I even said "I guess". What
did you have
| > in reserve if I said I was sure?
| >
| >   Now onto the real rubbish. Introducing deliberate
dead zone is
| > completely lame. And that's not a guess, that's a 100%
fact! Why should
| > he frig around with dead zones and do things the idiots
way when all he
| > needs do is shift a slider however far right he needs
to to solve his
| > problem? Nonsense! ICR2 had a non linear setting for
quote "joysticks"
| > and the linear setting for quote "wheels". I have a
wheel and use full
| > non linear myself!
| >

| > >
| > > Absolute rubbish. Linearity is down to the individual
and what he feels
| > > comfortable with. I drive with a joystick at the
moment and I have it
| set
| > > 2/3 across to the left.
| > >
| > > I will admit that the deadspot thing with a joystick
can be troublesome.
| I
| > > have  2 sidewinders. One is a dream to use but with
the other one, it is
| > > impossible to keep the car straight.
| > >
| > > Leong, I have a utility for setting dead zones. Mail
me and I'll forward
| it
| > > to you.
| > >
| > > Mark


| > > > You want full NON linear ie linear slider all the
way right.
| > > > Especially with a joystick I'd guess.
| > > >

| > > > >
| > > > > Hi
| > > > >
| > > > > I am using joystick with the game
| > > > > setting to all linear and 20:1 ratio
| > > > > for the steering I still find myself
| > > > > going erratic.
| > > > >
| > > > > After alot of laps, I realised it is the deadzone
| > > > > that is giving me the problems.
| > > > > Every little bit seems to be affected .
| > > > > It does not stay centre very well.
| > > > >
| > > > > Is there any way to adjust deadzone within the
game ?
| > > > >
| > > > > I am using MS sidewinder 3D.
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > > regards
| > > > > Leong                     email :

| > > > > ===========================================
| > > > > Singapore
|
|
|

There's a discussion group on Schubi's GPL pages
(http://216.13.117.36/~schubi/index.htm) where he seems to hang out.

Well you can catch him at the IRC server in GPL SpyBoy quite often, so
you might want to try there.