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Bill Bollinge

Trans-Am Mod

by Bill Bollinge » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:35:56

I guess that is why Dale Jr. just posted on his site that it is more
accurate.  He wouldn't know would he?

Bill Bollinger
www.gsxn.com


> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:19:00 -0500, "Bill Bollinger"

> >Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line style
> >works.

> Depends on what you mean by 'works' I guess.  I don't see how building
> a track with more grip outside of the main groove is improving the
> accuracy of the sim at all, but I guess YMMV.

> Jason

Bill Bollinge

Trans-Am Mod

by Bill Bollinge » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:37:18

The high groove will NOT work at dega or daytona.  Chris Shearburn and
myself proved that at the last Dega race in VRW.  NO ONE would have passed
us on the high line unless it was 4 on 2.  The high line does NOT work, that
is why all of the big time SS only leagues have switched tracks to the BR
series.

Bill Bollinger
www.gsxn.com


> Youre dreamin frankie ole boy.  Ive ran at one time or another most of the
> guys in VRW and you act like they have some kind of special skills or
magic
> potions.  Most arent any different than anyone here except they spend more
> time and effort getting fast (than I do anyway).  Ego's rule in that deal.

> The high groove works good on dega and daytona if ya get a few guys that
> hang in up there.  The "Rock"?  No way does the high line work and if you
> insist you'll just lose what little credibility you still have...

> Mitch



> > But then again just watch the VRW guys run multiple grooves during their
> > online race.  It's the drivers/setups that are at fault if you can't do
it
> > that way.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Bill Bollinge

Trans-Am Mod

by Bill Bollinge » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:37:53

I can't even pit to save my life either LOL!

Bill Bollinger
www.gsxn.com



> >   Hehe.....can't wait until some of the guys here try to tell this guy
he
> > can't/doesn't know how to run the high line.   He's forgot more about
sim
> > racing than this whole ng probably knows <g>



> > > Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line
style
> > > works.  I can tell you that we can make tracks that "race" like real
life.
> > > They are being done already.  The problem is that few people know
about it
> > > yet.  I don't think it will be popular until someone comes out with a
> > total
> > > "mod" that has all of the tracks fixed at one time, not just one track
at

> He sucks at road courses though.... :-D

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

David G Fishe

Trans-Am Mod

by David G Fishe » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:31:11


To be honest, I thought there was a good chance you were just trying to stir
things up as a joke when you said, "You have to realise, Fran?ois, there's
only six reasonably good drivers in
RASCAR: Neil, Ginger, Mark, Brian Oster, Eldred and myself(*)"

There are plenty of good drivers (not just reasonably good) in RASCAR.
Whether they take offense to your comment and respond is up to them. I know
I do....and I'm going to respond (surprise!).

Just to make sure I wasn't going crazy, I just looked at our most recent
Winter Series results, and I finished fourth (7 points behind third place).
This despite being disco'd twice, once while in a strong first at IRP (was
running stronger in that race than in any RASCAR oval race ever btw---ended
up 15th), and being punted out of third at Kyalami (6 seconds behind first)
with 6 laps to go, which ended my race at 11th. The lapped driver who hit me
immediately accepted responsibility for what he did (by yelling at himself
on TS), and apologized at the forum. I also had a screen freeze put me into
the wall at Sebring when I was two seconds behind the first place driver,
and another later which put me into the wall again (ended up 7th due to
damage). If I throw out one of the discos (since the others ahead of me each
missed a race, but had no discos that I could find), I still probably lost
85 points due to connection problems alone.

I'm not even "reasonably good" though.

The Winter Series oval truck tracks/setups were new to all of us. I finished
as strong as Neil and Ginger on the ovals (Robert was #1, and Brian was
excellent), and Neil, Ginger and I were clearly the top 3 on the road
courses whether it was practice times, qualifying, or the races. Look at the
results at the web site, or the more detailed results posted here at ras
every week.

The guys you mention are *excellent*, excellent drivers. There's no debate
about that. I'm sure they know I think *very* highly of them, and have a
great time racing against them each week.

I doubt I'll ever understand how you perceive what goes on on the track in
RASCAR, but I know myself (and I'm confident others in RASCAR) have to laugh
when you say most of us aren't even reasonably good, but *you* are. Hate to
say it, but I can think of a number of RASCAR drivers who I'd rate above
you, even when speed is completely taken out of the equation. You shouldn't
be irked by that statement, considering what you've said.

"You have to realise, Fran?ois, there's only six reasonably good drivers in
RASCAR: Neil, Ginger, Mark, Brian Oster, Eldred and myself(*)"

That above quote by you ranks right up there with some of Simmons' most
obnoxious all-timers.

David G Fisher

David G Fishe

Trans-Am Mod

by David G Fishe » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:34:33

I read at a forum (not sure which one) that he said recently on his web site
that the real Cup cars have more grip than they do in the game.

Anyone know for sure if he said this?

David G Fisher


> I guess that is why Dale Jr. just posted on his site that it is more
> accurate.  He wouldn't know would he?

> Bill Bollinger
> www.gsxn.com



> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:19:00 -0500, "Bill Bollinger"

> > >Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line
style
> > >works.

> > Depends on what you mean by 'works' I guess.  I don't see how building
> > a track with more grip outside of the main groove is improving the
> > accuracy of the sim at all, but I guess YMMV.

> > Jason

ZeeOhSi

Trans-Am Mod

by ZeeOhSi » Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:46:33

Sorry, I missed a lot of this thread.

This is an addon for N2003?

How do you load it?  Just run the executable?

Thanks!

TlgtrPr

Trans-Am Mod

by TlgtrPr » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:36:31

Yes...

Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured
annually by their clothing.

TlgtrPr

Trans-Am Mod

by TlgtrPr » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:37:27

Be sure to read the Readme file as there are a couple of steps to do after you
do the install, before you run  the mod the first time.

Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured
annually by their clothing.

ZeeOhSi

Trans-Am Mod

by ZeeOhSi » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:42:17

Thanks.  I have an exe file.  Does it unpack to an install directory with a
readme file?
I just bought N2003 and haven't played it much.  It looks great though!


Mitch_

Trans-Am Mod

by Mitch_ » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:42:20

I didnt qualify how many it takes to make the high line work did I?  It
works if you get a few guys to stick with it high.  Will two guys high pass
3 guys low, no.  Will three guys high pass 2 guys low, yea Ive done it and
seen it many many times.

Mitch


Mitch_

Trans-Am Mod

by Mitch_ » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:43:14

It worked perfectly in N4 :-)

Not so good now but yea it's still there.

Mitch


Mitch_

Trans-Am Mod

by Mitch_ » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:49:35

Just to stay within the scope of this segment of the thread.  Rockingham
DOESNT have an upper line period, unlike what Frankie described.  There is
the small footprint of the whirlpool effect but its so small it doesnt
effect the high line.

Dega and Tona do have a high line under the right circumstances.

Mitch



> > The high groove will NOT work at dega or daytona.  Chris Shearburn and
> > myself proved that at the last Dega race in VRW.  NO ONE would have
passed
> > us on the high line unless it was 4 on 2.  The high line does NOT work,
> that
> > is why all of the big time SS only leagues have switched tracks to the
BR
> > series.

> > Bill Bollinger
> > www.gsxn.com

Joachim Trens

Trans-Am Mod

by Joachim Trens » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 00:57:17

...

I don't know what you're complaining about. At least he recognized that
there are other racers in RASCAR, and didn't say everybody but himself
are hotlappers <g>

Achim

Mitch_

Trans-Am Mod

by Mitch_ » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:06:46

Dont take it to personal.  There was a time this may have upset me, now that
we know Jan's political motives I can accept it for what its worth.  Squat
;)

Mitch





> > "David G Fisher" wrote...
> > > > <snip>
> > > ????

> > > Jan's drunk.

TlgtrPr

Trans-Am Mod

by TlgtrPr » Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:07:15

I seem to remember that the exe finds your version of NR03 and install to
there...no temp directory...I think?

Kevin (aka tlgtr)
****
Zip slowly, medical statistics show that over 100,000 people are injured
annually by their clothing.


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