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>   Hehe.....can't wait until some of the guys here try to tell this guy he
> can't/doesn't know how to run the high line.   He's forgot more about sim
> racing than this whole ng probably knows <g>

> > Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line style
> > works.  I can tell you that we can make tracks that "race" like real life.
> > They are being done already.  The problem is that few people know about it
> > yet.  I don't think it will be popular until someone comes out with a
> total
> > "mod" that has all of the tracks fixed at one time, not just one track at

>You have to realise, Fran?ois, there's only six reasonably good drivers in
>RASCAR: Neil, Ginger, Mark, Brian Oster, Eldred and myself(*) and we're not
>up to VRW standard. Also we're stuck with either the <fast> or <expert>
>setup, neither of which is ideal.

>Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line style
>works.  I can tell you that we can make tracks that "race" like real life.
>They are being done already.  The problem is that few people know about it
>yet.  I don't think it will be popular until someone comes out with a total
>"mod" that has all of the tracks fixed at one time, not just one track at a
>time.

>Bill Bollinger
>www.gsxn.com

> The point Bill is trying to get across with regards to the BR tracks
> is that they have managed to increase the grip factor to the upper
> groove of the 2 SS tracks that I've tested. In real life, once the
> upper groove is worked in by cars running there and laying ***
> down, I'm not so sure the grip factor between the 2 lines is much
> different. The difference is, the upper groove allows a driver to
> carry more speed through the turn simply because of the radius of the
> turn itself, which compensates for the larger circumference of the
> oval he drivers vs the lower line.

> I've only tested the DaytonaBR track, with positive results I might
> add. The end result is more side by side racing, and while the the
> grip factors in the BR tracks may not reflect real life physics, it
> improves the quality of online racing, and that's all that matters to
> me.

> I'm not affiliated with BR, but if you'de like to take a look their
> site is http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:19:00 -0500, "Bill Bollinger"

> >Snuh?  You need to run the DegaBR track to see if his outside line style
> >works.  I can tell you that we can make tracks that "race" like real
life.
> >They are being done already.  The problem is that few people know about
it
> >yet.  I don't think it will be popular until someone comes out with a
total
> >"mod" that has all of the tracks fixed at one time, not just one track at
a
> >time.

> >Bill Bollinger
> >www.gsxn.com

>> Only way of saving it with any consistency, I've found, is to hit the
>> brakes.  How hard you need to do this will depend of how far gone the
>> car is and its guaranteed to f**k-up your tyres if you have to do so for
>> more than a fraction of a second, and of course, doing this in traffic
>> can cause other problems, especially online. :)

>Not in F1C, though. Tyre wear is next to non-existent on the standard
>setting ("1x"), I really have no idea what ISI was thinking when they
>"modelled" tyre wear in F1C. But then again, maybe I'm just not going
>fast enough in F1C to wear down the tyres noticeably over 20 laps
>(even on soft *** ;-)

> >>What I mean is that it's very difficult to drive the F1 cars fast, and
> >>string together a lot of fast laps. It's very easy to make a mistake,
even a
> >>slight one, that can ruin a lap or a race. If someone gets sim
'training'
> >>with those F1 cars, the TA and Cup cars in N2003 seem quite a bit
easier.
> >>They physics are good in both, but the F1 cars are much more of a
> >challenge.

> >Ah, ok.  My problem with the F1 is that the car breaks loose without any
> >(noticeable) warning.  I'm backwards into a wall before I know what's
> >happened.
> > With the cup cars, I can feel the car breaking loose, but once that
happens
> >it's gone - I can't save it.  Full opposite lock can't bring it back in
line.
> >I agree that F1 cars are more of a challenge, but the cup cars are a
> >challenge
> >to me as well.

> Only way of saving it with any consistency, I've found, is to hit the
> brakes.  How hard you need to do this will depend of how far gone the
> car is and its guaranteed to f**k-up your tyres if you have to do so for
> more than a fraction of a second, and of course, doing this in traffic
> can cause other problems, especially online. :)
> --
> Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington)
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> If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :)
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> On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:13:29 -0500, "Bill Bollinger"

> >I run in VRW and had the best car at the Rock race this year

> Really.....

> Jason