>> If Eldred was forcing***pit on, I wouldn't be racing in RASCAR.
>If I were given a choice I'd enforce***pit-view right away..
>> If Eldred was forcing***pit on, I wouldn't be racing in RASCAR.
>If I were given a choice I'd enforce***pit-view right away..
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Truthfully, I'd expect you to practice enough to GET comfortable with it...
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> >I think you mean, it sucks on small monitors. Try a large monitor,
> >fresnal lens, 3D glasses and you'll find it won't.
> What size monitor do you think is good?
22" = Excellent
25" = Superb
IMO, of course.
Gerry
> :-|
> Back to name calling are we?
You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. IMO, outside
views are unrealistic and they encourage an unrealistic racing
mentality. But as long as we can keep roof riders out of our servers,
i'm happy with that.
Gerry
>19" = Good
>22" = Excellent
>25" = Superb
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> >> What size monitor do you think is good?
> >19" = Good
> >22" = Excellent
> >25" = Superb
> Damn, I only have a 17" monitor - that's not even on your SCALE... :-(
> > :-|
> > Back to name calling are we?
> Who am I calling names?
> > I think it's time to give this whole thread
> > up. Seems all people want to do is sling mud and call names on this
topic.
> > If they want to remove all other views then fine, I have had people
state
> > already they will quit racing if they do that. The***pit view is not
want
> > everyone wants from a sim.
> You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. IMO, outside
> views are unrealistic and they encourage an unrealistic racing
> mentality. But as long as we can keep roof riders out of our servers,
> i'm happy with that.
> Gerry
> > > :-|
> > > Back to name calling are we?
> > Who am I calling names?
> > > I think it's time to give this whole thread
> > > up. Seems all people want to do is sling mud and call names on this
> topic.
> > > If they want to remove all other views then fine, I have had people
> state
> > > already they will quit racing if they do that. The***pit view is not
> want
> > > everyone wants from a sim.
> > You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. IMO, outside
> > views are unrealistic and they encourage an unrealistic racing
> > mentality. But as long as we can keep roof riders out of our servers,
> > i'm happy with that.
> > Gerry
> Can you elaborate on this "unrealistic racing mentality"?
Because a roof rider can see over a crumpled hood, and is able to drive
to the pits rather than call a tow track, he/she is likely to be more
cavalier in his/her driving style.
Yes/no?
Gerry
I think we can leave it at this - if a server enforces the***pit rule then
stick to that, otherwise lets use the views we want and stop degrading those
that don't use the***pit view. It's the elitest attitude of some***pit
drivers that causes this argument.
> > > > :-|
> > > > Back to name calling are we?
> > > Who am I calling names?
> > > > I think it's time to give this whole thread
> > > > up. Seems all people want to do is sling mud and call names on this
> > topic.
> > > > If they want to remove all other views then fine, I have had people
> > state
> > > > already they will quit racing if they do that. The***pit view is
not
> > want
> > > > everyone wants from a sim.
> > > You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. IMO,
outside
> > > views are unrealistic and they encourage an unrealistic racing
> > > mentality. But as long as we can keep roof riders out of our servers,
> > > i'm happy with that.
> > > Gerry
> > Can you elaborate on this "unrealistic racing mentality"?
> Yes...
> Because a roof rider can see over a crumpled hood, and is able to drive
> to the pits rather than call a tow track, he/she is likely to be more
> cavalier in his/her driving style.
> Yes/no?
> Gerry
> > > Can you elaborate on this "unrealistic racing mentality"?
> > Yes...
> > Because a roof rider can see over a crumpled hood, and is able to drive
> > to the pits rather than call a tow track, he/she is likely to be more
> > cavalier in his/her driving style.
> > Yes/no?
> No.
> > > > Can you elaborate on this "unrealistic racing mentality"?
> > > Yes...
> > > Because a roof rider can see over a crumpled hood, and is able to
drive
> > > to the pits rather than call a tow track, he/she is likely to be more
> > > cavalier in his/her driving style.
> > > Yes/no?
> > No.
> That's just the answer that best suits your case, rather than the truth.
> Well for the amount of times a crumpled hood comes into being a determining
> factor in the outcome of a race then this is a non issue.
It still unrealistic and give an advantage, you insist there is no
advantage. Remember saying that?
Now we're getting somewhere.
No, there is no 'however' about it, a***pit racer cannot see to do
this.
That's all we want.
Cockpit is more realistic and those that race with it show a greater
skill level.
Well, I'm only interested in facts, and I don't care who's feeling get
hurt. Don't forget, you started the whole argument in this threat when
you said:
> This has been beat to death, there is no advantage of using any view. Use
> the one that makes the driver the most comfortable and safe to run near.
> The view does little to impact the drivers performance or give the many
> advantage.
> Your also implying that roof view drivers are more reckless which is another
> untrue blanket statement. Do you think because they can see over a twisted
> hood that they don't; care if they wreck? Where I race the goal is to
> finish totally clean, any wreck will probably take you out of a top 5-10
> even if you can see over the hood.
> > Well for the amount of times a crumpled hood comes into being a
determining
> > factor in the outcome of a race then this is a non issue.
> It's got nothing to do with it being a win determining factor, it's very
> definitely a factor in over aggressive driving.
> > If your hood gets
> > crumpled your certainly not in any position to win anyway.
> It still unrealistic and give an advantage, you insist there is no
> advantage. Remember saying that?
> > Yes there is an advantage to get back to the pits as it is easier to
see,
> Now we're getting somewhere.
> > however if it were a real race your spotter would also help you back to
the
> > pits which they don't do in the sim.
> No, there is no 'however' about it, a***pit racer cannot see to do
> this.
> > I think we can leave it at this - if a server enforces the***pit rule
then
> > stick to that,
> That's all we want.
> > otherwise lets use the views we want and stop degrading those
> > that don't use the***pit view.
>***pit is more realistic and those that race with it show a greater
> skill level.
> > It's the elitest attitude of some***pit
> > drivers that causes this argument.
> Well, I'm only interested in facts, and I don't care who's feeling get
> hurt. Don't forget, you started the whole argument in this threat when
> you said:
> > This has been beat to death, there is no advantage of using any view.
Use
> > the one that makes the driver the most comfortable and safe to run near.
> > The view does little to impact the drivers performance or give the many
> > advantage.
> We were just concerned with enforcement.