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by **Ed Solhei** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:01:43

"Schooner" said:

That is utterly bullshit - and you know it.

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ed_

by **Ed Solhei** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:06:23

> If it is anything like Dirt Track Racing 2 I suspect the dirt/oil will be
> visible in all driving modes or so I would hope.

Eeeerrrr..... I *think* you missed my point/reason for enforcing this....

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ed_

by **Nick** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:34:32

I have a better 5 things Papy MUST include in N2003:

1) NASCAR cars

2) NASCAR tracks

3) NASCAR drivers

4) Some sort of 3D engine

5) Possibly some way of getting controller inputs into the game

I think these are more MUST HAVE than some weird forcing***pit view
garbage ;-)

by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:09:06

I agree with all of that. Cars shouldn't flip and roll when hit at 30mph.
:-)

David G Fisher

> I'd settle for a plausible drafting model, damage model, and more
flexible
> collision code. Nice to see some of the eye candy being done, but there's
> bigger fish to fry imo.

> John

> > 1. Allow hosts/server-admins to turn off the wall-riding "fix"

> > 2. Allow hosts/server-admins to force dirt/oil on wind-shield.

> > 3. Allow hosts/server-admins to enforce the number of pitcrews to be
> > displayed.

> > 4. Allow hosts/server-admins to force sun-glare/lens flare/shadows (if
> this
> > is something you see in the car and not just on replays.)

> > 5. Allow hosts/server-admins to enforce any [other] setting that might
> give
> > an advantage if turned on/off.
> > [or any other setting I might have forgotten :-)]

> > --
> > ed_

by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:46:07

I'll say, I thought it was only me who realized EVERYONE including Ed
missed the point of his first post. THose evil Kite-flying roof-hugging
types MUST be controlled.
Why right in this very forum, RAscar's Tim White declared he uses the
ARCADE EFF-Ten view because it GIVES HIM AN ADVANTAGE!!!
ding ding ding.
I'll deal with all these Osama BinupontheRoof drivers as soon as I weed
out all the Ron Fellows clones from the LeMans Mods.
dave henrie

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by **Tim Mise** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:54:21

How about in single file restarts, the AI cars that are not on the lead lap
drop back behind the lead lap cars. I never hear anybody complain about
that one.

-Tim

by **Schoone** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:28:12

<sigh> - no it isn't. Anyway everyone can think how they like on it I'm not
arguing this issue for the 99th time.

by **Schoone** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:29:59

Whatever guys. Drive how you like, I don't care.
So using a shifter is an advantage as well, how you plan to control that?
What about a fast PC and larger monitor? Racing frame and seat? ;)

by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:34:36

"Schooner" <

That's EASY....XBOX!!!!

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by **Mr.** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:18:47

How about allowing the host to turn off that damn "ideal racing line." Is
this a simulation or simple video game? Yeah....thats it...lets follow our
nose and keep to the green line....ignoring everything else in the chase for
victory.....Not my idea of fun...(let alone realism).

Mr. B

by **Don** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 13:44:28

6. > Interactive debris!

7. > Understanding of being "forced" onto pit road to avoid an accident or
being bumped there.

Gunner

and something that'd be "nice": track flybys (aka MS Golf).

by **Obak** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:34:34

>4. Allow hosts/server-admins to force sun-glare/lens flare/shadows (if this
>is something you see in the car and not just on replays.)

about lense flare. you do know that this only happens when you view it
through a camera lense? you never get lense flare in real life while driving
down the highway.

lense flare in games = unrealistic = not sim. unless you go around driving
with a camera attached to you face?

by **John Simmon** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:57:21

I fail to see how have better peripheral vision (knowing when a car
is beside you) and being able to seee over a crumple hood is a bad
thing. Forcing***pit view is just plain stupid and dangerous to
other online drivers. For road racing, I roof-race so that I can see
a little farther down the track.

If Eldred was forcing***pit on, I wouldn't be racing in RASCAR.

by **Jason Moy** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:26:54

> For road racing, I roof-race so that I can see
>a little farther down the track.

ARCADE RACER!! ARCADE RACER!!

Why don't you stick to Roadblasters, John? =)

(I'm kidding here)

Jason

by **Jason Moy** » Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:29:49

>about lense flare. you do know that this only happens when you view it
>through a camera lense? you never get lense flare in real life while driving
>down the highway.

So you've never been blinded by the sun as it's refracted by your
windshield? This is a very real phenomenon that is made worse by
helmets.

Sun-flare may look kind of silly, but there's nothing unrealistic
about the sun blinding you when it's within your line of sight.

Jason

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