rec.autos.simulators

> > If Dale Earnhardt  had been roof riding when he hit the wall at Daytona,
> he
> > would be alive today !  Heck , he would have just sailed right on by and
> > watched the whole thing from 40 feet up  ! !   LOL

> Just a small point. Dale Earnhardt was driving a race car at a race track.
> We are sitting at home looking at a rectangle with glowing dots on it,
> holding a plastic circular tube which occasionally shakes, pressing down
on
> two rectangular pieces of plastic which always seem to be designed to move
> in exactly the way that real pedals don't.

> Not to mention, if he'd been sat on the roof, he wouldn't have been able
to
> reach the throttle and so wouldn't have crashed....

> No, this is not the case, because sometimes I have hit the barrier really
> hard at Sears and my 'virtual head' has ended up over the top of the
> steering wheel. I thought that was extremely odd, because if you are
> strapped into the car tight, your head can't move forwards as much as it
> does in this situation. I watched the replay to check. The view definitely
> wasn't locked to the track because the car had stopped moving when it hit
> the barrier, and it didn't really bounce away much, but my 'virtual head'
> kept moving forwards, into the barrier, then returned to centre exactly as
> if it was modelled as a spring (the further the distance from the rest
> point, the larger the force trying to return it there).

> The only reason I remember this is because it stood out so blatantly...

> > > Gerry,

> > > I know you try hard to make your point and prove other wrong but the
next
> > > time you quote me how about using a quote from me as opposed to
someone else
> > > and then saying I contradicted myself.

> > Your quit write, of course. I made an honest mistake, very sorry about
> > that.

> > Gerry

> QUITE RIGHT

> > > > Gerry,

> > > > I know you try hard to make your point and prove other wrong but the
> next
> > > > time you quote me how about using a quote from me as opposed to
> someone else
> > > > and then saying I contradicted myself.

> > > Your quit write, of course. I made an honest mistake, very sorry about
> > > that.

> > > Gerry

> > QUITE RIGHT

> No problem with the "Your" ?

> > And for online racing, it makes it *impossible* to make it back to
> > your pit safely without asking for a tow...  Thanks, but no thanks -
> > I don't care to lose a lap simply because of someone else's sense of
> > "realism" or "fair play".  You do what you gotta do to stay in the
> > race and on the lead lap.

> This is exacly why I want to enforce this. Why should you be allowed to race
> back to the pit's when others can't?
> Should the other drivers be "penalized" just because another drive cant cope
> with the limits of racing from within the car?

> --
> ed_

> <SNIP>

> > Anyway, as long as it's an optional host/server choice, there should
still
> > be plenty of races without POV and other similar restrictions for those
who
> > don't like them.  Obviously, some don't!  ;-)

> A cheat proof option is all we want. In truth, I'd like to see all out
> side views ditched, but given the mentality of the average purchaser,
> this will never happen.

> Gerry