rec.autos.simulators

>   Consoles are not just for kids?  That's just a stereotype.

>   I used to think that way, Eep; consoles are for kids or the braindead.
> Mostly because I hadn't owned one ever, and I didn't think much of when all
> my friends were playing Mario or sports games, and I was playing Pirates.

>    Well, a few weeks ago I took the plunge and bought a Playstation 2 and it
> has really opened my eyes.  I haven't seen a *** system this good since
> the Commodore Amiga in the variety of games.  PC's, on the other hand, seem
> to have stagnated with first-person shooters qualifying as "action games",
> mostly they seem to have become tech demos for folks who want to show off
> their hardware.  PS2 has a larger selection of games than what you will find
> on the PC, with the possible exception of strategy games and flight sims
> (but I have seen Civ II and Red Alert for Playstation, and there are fantasy
> flying games), and it is backwards compatible with Playstation games.  I
> picked up a small library of Playstation 1 games like Bushido Blade,, Metal
> Gear Solid, Tenchu, Tekken 3, Soul Blade, Silent Hill, Resident Evil... they
> are all good, and there's not much like them on the PC.  I bought Final
> Fantasy X for 20 dollars at a video store and I'm enjoying it alot.

>> >Gunnar, who WAS looking forward to playing GTA3 with a wheel.
>> >couldn't get the pedals on the wheel to work either.

>> I, personally, wouldn't want to play GTA3 with a wheel.
>> It might make walking, jumping and aiming a little difficult .. :)

>sure, but there's no reason you couldn't use mouse/keyboard, or even a
>pad for running around even if you drove the cars with a wheel.

> > Well I took the risk and laid down my $52 bucks at EB.

> > Installed fine.

> > Safedisc sucks ass as usual causing slow, delayed loading of game but it
> > finally fires up eventually.

> > Menus do their job well enough. Stuck with default mouse/keyboard setup
> > to start with and max gfx with 12x10 32bit res.

> > Intro and movies are well done.

> > Gameplay seems to be a combo of Street Fighter mixed with Midtown
> > Madness and touch of the old Taxi game thrown in for good measure.

> > There is a bug causing the subtitle text to randomly be blank block
> > areas but that happened rarely and a restart of the game fixes it.
> > Win98se here, latest driver, latest DX crap, etc..

> > THERE ARE NO IN MISSION SAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can save while you are
> > in what I'd call 'slacker cruise' mode. Its kind of a time when your
> > character isn't on a definite mission but you are still in the game
> > world able to walk and drive around.

> > Car physics are actually pretty impressive. Car can slowly roll over if
> > you hit a inside curb while turning sharply at speed. Drop a door from
> > too much damage and if you run over it, it causes the car to bounce over
> > the door. Car gets damaged a bit too easily it seems. Car understeers
> > big time as one would expect from the big sedan I was driving at the
> > time. It no Nascar but it isn't gaudy arcady either.

> > THERE IS NO ANALOG CONTROL FOR CAR STEERING!!! Least I haven't figured
> > out a way yet. What am I doing wrong? I can't set any of my joystick or
> > Rumble pad axis's to steer or accelerate/brake. They seem to have a
> > default only setting when in the game. Steering with a joystick or
> > analog stick on my Rumblepad seems either on or off(digital). Mouse
> > seems to be the only way to steer the car with analog type control.
> > Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this issue.

> > Thats all for now. Lots of stuff to explore  and try in the game enviroment.

>>Good tip - I'm at the 'van heist' mission where you have to ram and
>>steal a money transport truck. Tried it about 20 times now and the
>>police keeps ramming me off the road :-/

> I don't remember that specific mission. But in general, when a mission
> in GTA3 is hard it's because you're using a bad strategy (there is
> often more than one good one). Once you figure out a good strategy I
> almost always finished missions in 1 or 2 tries.

> >>Open the rear door so to release some money to bribe the police off.
> >>:)

> >Err.. how do you open the backdoor? Or am I missing the joke here :)

> Uhm, you're missing the joke! :)

> Although I did read that if you do enough Vigilante missions that you
> can get a bribe or 2. No kidding there.

> Ruud van Gaal
> Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/
> Pencil art  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

>Similarly, finding 10 secret packages gets you a weapon delivered to your
>hideout for free.

>And I believe doing a certain number of fire truck missions gets you the
>flamethrower delivered...

>I don't know/remember what taxi and paramedic missions get you.

> Similarly, finding 10 secret packages gets you a weapon delivered to your
> hideout for free.

> And I believe doing a certain number of fire truck missions gets you the
> flamethrower delivered...

> Is that the mod which just moved the camera forward, or is there a real 1st person mod?

> > BTW, you are very anti-console, try the live-and-let-live approach <g>.

> Oh, I do--all the lemming morons and kids who can't handle REAL *** systems can use consoles all they want>

> > > BTW, you are very anti-console, try the live-and-let-live approach <g>.

> > Oh, I do--all the lemming morons and kids who can't handle REAL *** systems can use consoles all they want>

> Yeah, that's a real nice "live and let live" approach, there, Eepster.
> Much like the racist who says "hey, I don't give a rat's ass what dem
> ***s do so long as they don't live in my neighborhood".

> Ass.