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If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

David G Fishe

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by David G Fishe » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:14:09

...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice time
in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have little
experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

David G Fisher

Uncle Feste

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Uncle Feste » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:58:56


> ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice time
> in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have little
> experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

I nominate Bristol.

--

Fester

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
mind.  And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
*** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar."   -- Julius Caesar

Ed Solhei

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:06:08

I cannot make it as I'm going away....  but if I were to make a suggestion -
it would be the Brickyard...  one of my fav. tracks in N4..

Come to think of it - if you get a good sized field, then a long (50%+) SS
race would be a blast.

--
ed_

Andre Warrin

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Andre Warrin » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:29:35



Unfortunately I can't make it either coming Sunday :-/

Andre

David G Fishe

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by David G Fishe » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:59:37

It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on Saturday.

David G Fisher




> >I cannot make it as I'm going away....  but if I were to make a
suggestion -
> >it would be the Brickyard...  one of my fav. tracks in N4..

> >Come to think of it - if you get a good sized field, then a long (50%+)
SS
> >race would be a blast.

> >--
> >ed_

> Unfortunately I can't make it either coming Sunday :-/

> Andre

Don Burnett

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Don Burnett » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:53:49



> > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
time
> > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
little
> > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

> I nominate Bristol.

> --

> Fester

I could go for Bristol, just ran a league race there last night and it was a
lot of fun.
You guys running fixed setups?

Don Burnette

John Pancoas

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by John Pancoas » Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:08:55

  I'd vote for any oval(except a SS<G>), as long as we used fixed setups.
  Makes it more fun, for the guys who are new to Nascar sim racing IMO, plus
more fun to us vets, as there's less wrecks <G>

  But then, I don't know if I can make it this week anyway.

-John





> > > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
> time
> > > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
> little
> > > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

> > I nominate Bristol.

> > --

> > Fester

> I could go for Bristol, just ran a league race there last night and it was
a
> lot of fun.
> You guys running fixed setups?

> Don Burnette

Andre Warrin

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:43:16

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:59:37 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on Saturday.

Saturday is good for me.. how about the rest of you guys?

And which tracks? My vote this time goes to Bristol and the Glen.
Or instead of 2 shorter races we could do one longer race.. imho the
longer the races, the more interesting Nascar becomes.

Andre

Uncle Feste

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:59:25


> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:59:37 GMT, "David G Fisher"

>>It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on Saturday.

> Saturday is good for me.. how about the rest of you guys?

> And which tracks? My vote this time goes to Bristol and the Glen.
> Or instead of 2 shorter races we could do one longer race.. imho the
> longer the races, the more interesting Nascar becomes.

> Andre

I'm game.  Fixed setups too?

--

Fester

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
mind.  And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
*** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
have done. And I am Caesar."   -- Julius Caesar

Mitch Alatorr

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Mitch Alatorr » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:00:35

I had a blast in Sunday's race.  Count me in if the RAS races continue.  I'm
open for either sat or sun.

I like the longer races also Andre (at least 1 stop).  Any track is fine
w/me but I really do prefer the roadies.  The Glen sounds really great to
me! :)

Mitch


> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:59:37 GMT, "David G Fisher"

> >It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on
Saturday.

> Saturday is good for me.. how about the rest of you guys?

> And which tracks? My vote this time goes to Bristol and the Glen.
> Or instead of 2 shorter races we could do one longer race.. imho the
> longer the races, the more interesting Nascar becomes.

> Andre

Mikkel Gram-Hanse

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:02:21

Bristol would be fine by me... and fixed setups to give us N2002 newbies a
chance to go for glory ;)

Mikkel



> > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
time
> > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
little
> > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

> I nominate Bristol.

> --

> Fester

> "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the
> citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a
> double-edged sword. It both emboldens the ***, just as it narrows the
> mind.  And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the
> *** boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no
> need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry,
> infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their
> rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I
> have done. And I am Caesar."   -- Julius Caesar

Tom Pabs

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Tom Pabs » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:27:17

Saturday would be better than Sunday for me as its a NASCAR "race day" here
in the USA and very often I have lots of people over to watch the race (and
cook brunch for).  Last Sunday was a very rare exception......I would almost
never make it for Sunday RAS racing.  Saturdays.....I could probably run in
half the events.

I run in a group made up of mostly real-world drivers on Monday nights.  We
have just recently switched from running GPL (the guys are almost all road
racers) to N2K2.  So, for the first time in a while I'm dialing-in N2K2 (or
N4-like NASCAR type) online racing.  I am very impressed with the N2K2
"fixed setups" (unlike I was with N4's).......they seem very good at the few
places I've tried them (WG, SP, Phoenix, Pocono, Bristol and Tally).  My lap
times at WG and SP are almost the same on the fixed setup as on my own
"open" setup.  I also really like the fact that the race server can "reset
the current session" instantly....including the "race" start.  So, if you
mistakenly get a big pile up at the start.....the race can be instantly
"reset" without going through practice-qual-warmup all over again....that's
a huge bonus to fun racing online - IMHO!

What we're doing (and I only suggest this since most of the background of
these guys is in road racing - not totally unlike the RAS drivers) is the
following, and this seems to be very enjoyable to all drivers:

1.  All races are on fixed setup, full pace, no yellows, no damage and
realistic weather....they are all short (15%)....with 20 min practice, 5 min
warmup. (We will change to running yellows and damage...and longer races
with at least one pit stop....later in the year when everyone is more
comfortable and up to speed running N2K2).
2.  We run three races each night as follows:
    **Race #1:  Road Course Race (the race track is chosen from this list:
SP, WG, Pocono or Phoenix....both "road course like" tracks).
    **Race #2:  Always either Daytona or Tally - just for plain old fun and
grins, door-to-door - racing against good drivers is a blast at these
tracks.
    **Race #3:  Any other NASCAR track chosen by consensus after Race #2 is
over.....so nobody has a chance to practice or come up to speed on
it...except during the 20 minute practice time allotted.  Its a real "eye
opener" to who is....and who is not......a good sim driver/race driver!  No
"NASCAR" track can be repeated until all have been run in this Race #3
format.

With BS chat between races....this all takes about 2 hrs to 2 1/2 hrs to
run.  Last night, we were all having so much fun we did a fourth race back
at Tally.

I suggest this only because this "format" seems like it would be good for
the group of drivers that have expressed an interest in running "weekend"
RAS group races in N2K2.  Only a thought.

Regards,

Tom



Mike Grand

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Mike Grand » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:35:14

No WC or BGN race this weekend.


> Saturday would be better than Sunday for me as its a NASCAR "race day"
here
> in the USA and very often I have lots of people over to watch the race
(and
> cook brunch for).  Last Sunday was a very rare exception......I would
almost
> never make it for Sunday RAS racing.  Saturdays.....I could probably run
in
> half the events.

> I run in a group made up of mostly real-world drivers on Monday nights.
We
> have just recently switched from running GPL (the guys are almost all road
> racers) to N2K2.  So, for the first time in a while I'm dialing-in N2K2
(or
> N4-like NASCAR type) online racing.  I am very impressed with the N2K2
> "fixed setups" (unlike I was with N4's).......they seem very good at the
few
> places I've tried them (WG, SP, Phoenix, Pocono, Bristol and Tally).  My
lap
> times at WG and SP are almost the same on the fixed setup as on my own
> "open" setup.  I also really like the fact that the race server can "reset
> the current session" instantly....including the "race" start.  So, if you
> mistakenly get a big pile up at the start.....the race can be instantly
> "reset" without going through practice-qual-warmup all over
again....that's
> a huge bonus to fun racing online - IMHO!

> What we're doing (and I only suggest this since most of the background of
> these guys is in road racing - not totally unlike the RAS drivers) is the
> following, and this seems to be very enjoyable to all drivers:

> 1.  All races are on fixed setup, full pace, no yellows, no damage and
> realistic weather....they are all short (15%)....with 20 min practice, 5
min
> warmup. (We will change to running yellows and damage...and longer races
> with at least one pit stop....later in the year when everyone is more
> comfortable and up to speed running N2K2).
> 2.  We run three races each night as follows:
>     **Race #1:  Road Course Race (the race track is chosen from this list:
> SP, WG, Pocono or Phoenix....both "road course like" tracks).
>     **Race #2:  Always either Daytona or Tally - just for plain old fun
and
> grins, door-to-door - racing against good drivers is a blast at these
> tracks.
>     **Race #3:  Any other NASCAR track chosen by consensus after Race #2
is
> over.....so nobody has a chance to practice or come up to speed on
> it...except during the 20 minute practice time allotted.  Its a real "eye
> opener" to who is....and who is not......a good sim driver/race driver!
No
> "NASCAR" track can be repeated until all have been run in this Race #3
> format.

> With BS chat between races....this all takes about 2 hrs to 2 1/2 hrs to
> run.  Last night, we were all having so much fun we did a fourth race back
> at Tally.

> I suggest this only because this "format" seems like it would be good for
> the group of drivers that have expressed an interest in running "weekend"
> RAS group races in N2K2.  Only a thought.

> Regards,

> Tom



> > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
time
> > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
> little
> > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).

> > David G Fisher

Dave Henri

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Dave Henri » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 02:44:01

  But Easter Sunday...may upset a few families...
fortunately F1 will run fairly early.
dave henrie

Jan Verschuere

If We Have Another R.a.s./N2002 Race This Weekend.....

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:38:05

I could go for that... would have zero practise, obviously, but that didn't
seem much of a problem Sunday (other than winning was out of the question
;-)).

Would also prefer one longer race... pitting at least once would be good.

Jan.
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