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Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

David G Fishe

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by David G Fishe » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:02:10

Where do you guys go to race? I haven't seen any familiar names (everybody
uses nicknames anyway) at the Sierra.com servers. So far the racing there
has been kind of chaotic. Too many crashes and a lot of
bickering/***ing/finger pointing/etc. It seems like a mix of very good
drivers, and some others who must be on acid. Daytona is pretty damn easy to
keep the car under control even for me with my limited NASCAR sim experience
(handful of hours), so I don't know what some of those guys are doing.

Some of you now have the chance to humiliate me on the track after all these
years of debate. Of course if I beat you, you should feel pretty ashamed of
yourself. :-p Seriously though, I just want to get in on some clean racing.

I do need some tips on track etiquette. I know F1, but NASCAR is a different
story. The big question I have is the following: I couldn't avoid an
accident tonight at Daytona and ended up a half lap down at the start. On
the last lap, the leaders came up behind me on the final turn. What exactly
am I supposed to do in that situation? The spotter doesn't even let you know
they're there until they are very close behind (view in mirror is limited,
and I don't think I heard them until about the same time the spotter
notified me). Everything turned out fine, and I think the winner even used
me to draft himself to the win, but I want to make sure I do the right thing
in that situation. I saved the replay if someone wants to check it out and
let me know what I did right/wrong.

My online name is DaveGF BTW.

David G Fisher

Haqsa

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Haqsa » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:09:38

Why that's easy, if you were a real NASCAR driver, you would block!!



Rod Princ

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Rod Princ » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:11:00



I'm no NASCAR expert myself, but I found just holding your line is
often enough and if I'm on a straight I'll take the high line provided
they aren't trying to pass high. If I see them in my mirrors prior to
the spotter telling me the leaders are coming, I'll generally take a
higher line and not hug the yellow line anyway.

IIRC, hit M, you'll find the mirrors alot more useful. Takes away the
roll cage and the spoiler. (haven't got NR2002 yet as it isn't out here
but I'm sure that's the key for N4)

Cheers,
Rod.

Uncle Feste

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:57:58


> I do need some tips on track etiquette. I know F1, but NASCAR is a different
> story. The big question I have is the following: I couldn't avoid an
> accident tonight at Daytona and ended up a half lap down at the start. On
> the last lap, the leaders came up behind me on the final turn. What exactly
> am I supposed to do in that situation? The spotter doesn't even let you know
> they're there until they are very close behind (view in mirror is limited,
> and I don't think I heard them until about the same time the spotter
> notified me). Everything turned out fine, and I think the winner even used
> me to draft himself to the win, but I want to make sure I do the right thing
> in that situation. I saved the replay if someone wants to check it out and
> let me know what I did right/wrong.

I always race with my F2 menu displayed.  Hitting the space bar toggles
the interval in front of & behind you.  When the leaders come up &
you're in the turns, stay up high out of the preferred line.  On the
straights, I usually just hold my position.  Don't make any quick
moves.  Ignore the idiots & have fun!

UncleFester70 on Sierra.com.  

--

Fester

"Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no
brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?"
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John Pancoas

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by John Pancoas » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:26:39

  Always have your F2 key on, hit spacebar, so you know who's who.  Sounds
like you were still on the lead lap, is that right?  Leaders caught you on
last turn, of last lap........I wouldn't worry about it, race is very close
to being over, as long as you weren't markedly slower because of damage,
etc.

  If they caught you earlier, still try to stay on the lead lap, but don't
force the issue.

  Also, hit you N key; it'll give you a wider mirror view than the roll cage
one, assuming that's what you're mentioning below.

-John



David G Fishe

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by David G Fishe » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:11:16


Uncle Fester suggested that too, and I see how it will help now.

Yes.

I saw that in the manual just a little while ago. Much better without the
roll cage. Mirror is an awful big hit on the fps.

David G Fisher

David G Fishe

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by David G Fishe » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:12:41



> I'm no NASCAR expert myself, but I found just holding your line is
> often enough and if I'm on a straight I'll take the high line provided
> they aren't trying to pass high. If I see them in my mirrors prior to
> the spotter telling me the leaders are coming, I'll generally take a
> higher line and not hug the yellow line anyway.

That's pretty much how I thought I should behave.

You use both the N and M key now.

David G Fisher

John Pancoas

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by John Pancoas » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:38:04

Yep.  If you're a lapped car in this situation, get out of the way for those
racing for the win.  Also, the Sierra.com races aren't much different
than a pickup race on VROC, so be forewarned :)

  A league's the way to go.

-John





> >   Always have your F2 key on, hit spacebar, so you know who's who.

> Uncle Fester suggested that too, and I see how it will help now.

> > Sounds
> > like you were still on the lead lap, is that right?

> Yes.

> >Leaders caught you on
> > last turn, of last lap........I wouldn't worry about it, race is very
> close
> > to being over, as long as you weren't markedly slower because of damage,
> > etc.
> >   If they caught you earlier, still try to stay on the lead lap, but
don't
> > force the issue.

> >   Also, hit you N key; it'll give you a wider mirror view than the roll
> cage
> > one, assuming that's what you're mentioning below.

> I saw that in the manual just a little while ago. Much better without the
> roll cage. Mirror is an awful big hit on the fps.

> David G Fisher

David G Fishe

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by David G Fishe » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:43:44


I've found that out VERY quickly. It's amazing that so many people can't
even line up, and stay lined up until they drop the flag. How hard is it to
stay behind the car in front of you? :-)

Any links?

David G Fisher

John Pancoas

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by John Pancoas » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:57:02

  Try here, in the online racing section for some league links.  There's a
LOT of Nascar leagues out there; many more than on this site, and many more
than GPL, so don't be afraid to search around.

http://www.sportplanet.com/team-lightspeed/

-John





> > Yep.  If you're a lapped car in this situation, get out of the way for
> those
> > racing for the win.  Also, the Sierra.com races aren't much different
> > than a pickup race on VROC, so be forewarned :)

> I've found that out VERY quickly. It's amazing that so many people can't
> even line up, and stay lined up until they drop the flag. How hard is it
to
> stay behind the car in front of you? :-)

> >   A league's the way to go.

> Any links?

> David G Fisher

ymenar

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by ymenar » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:04:55


> Where do you guys go to race?

Considering a vast majority of old simracers who do race Stockcars sims have
raced on the NROS back with TEN, we have almost all evolved from pickup
racing to league racing David.  A few of us tend to do semi-regular pickup
racing, but it's really only a few people left.

There is also this thing, called OLR ;-)

That's where you understand why we evolved into leagues :)  Considering the
free nature of the Won servers, after the demise of the NROS we all really
either stopped racing or went into leagues.  That started back with Nascar
Racing 3.  We were alienated by the poor quality of drivers.  They are
mostly, kids or gamers with not much racing abilities nor the willing to
possess those abilities.  It's a shame, but serious pickup racing died when
the NROS closed.  Sure you will find some good experience, but they will be
alternated with trully horrible races.

Keep a steady line is an absolute.  Since they see you far ahead, they will
try to keep a line that won't go directly onto your path.  The last thing
you want to do is to steer out of the way at the last minute, because where
you will go is probably where they will go also.  If you are in the turns,
the high line is the best line to go and let them pass under you.  On the
straight, you should normally go low and let them pass high.  That's where
the danger relies, as it's the opposite on the straights then into the
corners.

F2 + enter :)

Noted.  I'm ymenard, since half a decade :)

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Uncle Feste

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:35:30




> > Yep.  If you're a lapped car in this situation, get out of the way for
> those
> > racing for the win.  Also, the Sierra.com races aren't much different
> > than a pickup race on VROC, so be forewarned :)

> I've found that out VERY quickly. It's amazing that so many people can't
> even line up, and stay lined up until they drop the flag. How hard is it to
> stay behind the car in front of you? :-)

> >   A league's the way to go.

> Any links?

> David G Fisher

http://ntrplus.com/  They have a special event coming up called the
Triple 500 that I'm considering signing up for.  You'll have to be
pretty good just to make the qualifying heats.  ;-)

--

Fester

"Is it that we need a nobrainer Linux desktop OS for people with no
brains or should people do a little more reading and smarten up?"
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Ed Solhei

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 01:38:47

As soon as I get my hands on a copy I'll let you know Dave.. :-)

As for Do's and Dont's....  Just be clean careful and have patience.
Normally there *will* be some wrecking in a race - especially in open
[low-rank] races with big fields...  Patience is a virtue here..

As for that Daytona race... it's sounds to me like you did the right
thing...  that is try to cause as little problems for the leaders as
possible...    and I think most leaders woud prefer if you keep a high line
and give them the inside of the turns.   Feel free to join the draft
though...  providing it can make a difference for you end result and that
you keep out of harms way - i.e at the back of the pack..

The one thing to remember though - is that these Superspeedway races are 99%
strategy - you got to be in the right posistion on the last few laps -  the
previous laps dont count much at all..
Depending upon your car and "speed" I'de say that the right spot if 2nd. or
3rd. -  if you're running in a pack..

Qualifying upfont is only an advantage incase of a start incident whilch is
bound to happen with big fields...  there's always someone who reckon they
can win the race going into turn 1.

Lastly...  don't try to "bumb-draft"... it simply don't work and above all,
it is dangerous and stupid.

--
ed_

[E.Solheim - online]


> My online name is DaveGF BTW.

Scott B. Huste

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by Scott B. Huste » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 03:21:58

Onlineracin.com

Scott
PA-Scott



The Other Larr

Where Are R.A.S. N2002 Online Drivers?

by The Other Larr » Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:23:41

Rats!

I was afraid that after last Sunday's Daytona race, this blocking shit would
become more prevelant :(

You think it's a wreck-fest on WON now?  Wait till this sets in :(

Everyone will forget the bad out-come of all that blocking last week :(

-Larry


> Why that's easy, if you were a real NASCAR driver, you would block!!



> > I do need some tips on track etiquette. I know F1, but NASCAR is a
> different
> > story. The big question I have is the following: I couldn't avoid an
> > accident tonight at Daytona and ended up a half lap down at the start.
> On
> > the last lap, the leaders came up behind me on the final turn. What
> exactly
> > am I supposed to do in that situation? The spotter doesn't even let
> you know
> > they're there until they are very close behind (view in mirror is
> limited,
> > and I don't think I heard them until about the same time the spotter
> > notified me). Everything turned out fine, and I think the winner even
> used
> > me to draft himself to the win, but I want to make sure I do the right
> thing
> > in that situation. I saved the replay if someone wants to check it out
> and
> > let me know what I did right/wrong.


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