Could be the difference in steering ratio. The included road course
setups are around 12:1 IIRC, whereas I think the oval setups are at
least double that. Double the ratio equals half the torque, if it's
realistic. But also I think the forces are lower in general in NR2002
because of the changes they made to the tire model.
Similiar experience for me with my Ferrari wheel. Hitting the transition
from t he apron to the banking at a track like Daytona has very little
effect as well.
David G Fisher
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:59:37 GMT, "David G Fisher"
> >It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on Saturday.
> Saturday is good for me.. how about the rest of you guys?
> And which tracks? My vote this time goes to Bristol and the Glen.
> Or instead of 2 shorter races we could do one longer race.. imho the
> longer the races, the more interesting Nascar becomes.
> Andre
POCONO
POCONO
POCONO
POCONO
POCONO
" "
Gary
When you've agreed on a racedate this time, could someone please upload a
message with a distinct and clear subject so that even dummies can recognize
it immediately for what it is? :-)
TIA
Achim
> > A 50% race anywhere would require at least one pit stop. Bristol or
> > Watkins Glen would be good.
> 50% at Bristol is 250 laps. You can go for 186 laps before you need fuel,
> but approximately when do tires go bad (assuming you are driving fairly
> smooth)?
> David G Fisher
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> > It doesn't have to be Sunday. I'd actually much prefer it was on
Saturday.
> > David G Fisher
> Saturday is a no go for me until after 7:30pm GMT. I don't get back from
> watching the football (soccer) until then. If it after that I'll
definitely
> race.
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Andre
10pm CET Saturday... <checks>... yup, fine, no problem.
Jan.
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So your lock ups are over now since installing new memory?
I may try that. I just was in a surprisingly good SP pick up race and on the
last lap I was passing someone for third place when the f****n screen froze
again sending me into the pit wall and ending my race.
David G Fisher
Several Hundred laps now with no problems in about 4 different sims. The
WIERD thing is...I basically took back my Crucial PC133 ram that I had last
year. Gave that and the dead pieces from my first burned out Athlon to him.
So a couple of days ago, I yanked out my generic ram and took the Crucial.
Stuck the generic into his box....he has had NO problems...NONE....no
slowdowns no freezes NOTHING>>>!!! I'm fairly convinced that the RAM must
not have been seated properly in the memory slot. I put the Crucial back
into the same slot as the generic came from so other than that guess....I'm
at a loss.
Kinda sucks that it took me a month to figure that out....
Haven't ventured online yet tho....But I do have a practice ALMS thing I
might try tonight..
dave henrie
I should make Saturday...I'm off this week for Vacation, but after
that...most Saturday's I'm working til about 6pm pacific time...but I'm more
than happy to miss events if it works better for the majority.
dave henrie
This is online racing for fun.....no season points.....no "keeping
score"....so I think using the "restart feature" judiciously just makes lots
of sense.
The "three race" format allows the "race event" to have "something" for
everyone. It also allows some guys who maybe don't make it to the exact
start time....to join in any of the three races. Or, maybe they only have
time to run one short race.....so they still can participate. This just
makes sense to me considering the type of racing this is about
(non-league....buddy to buddy racing).
Tom
> Just my .02
> -John
> > Saturday would be better than Sunday for me as its a NASCAR "race day"
> here
> > in the USA and very often I have lots of people over to watch the race
> (and
> > cook brunch for). Last Sunday was a very rare exception......I would
> almost
> > never make it for Sunday RAS racing. Saturdays.....I could probably run
> in
> > half the events.
> > I run in a group made up of mostly real-world drivers on Monday nights.
> We
> > have just recently switched from running GPL (the guys are almost all
road
> > racers) to N2K2. So, for the first time in a while I'm dialing-in N2K2
> (or
> > N4-like NASCAR type) online racing. I am very impressed with the N2K2
> > "fixed setups" (unlike I was with N4's).......they seem very good at the
> few
> > places I've tried them (WG, SP, Phoenix, Pocono, Bristol and Tally). My
> lap
> > times at WG and SP are almost the same on the fixed setup as on my own
> > "open" setup. I also really like the fact that the race server can
"reset
> > the current session" instantly....including the "race" start. So, if
you
> > mistakenly get a big pile up at the start.....the race can be instantly
> > "reset" without going through practice-qual-warmup all over
> again....that's
> > a huge bonus to fun racing online - IMHO!
> > What we're doing (and I only suggest this since most of the background
of
> > these guys is in road racing - not totally unlike the RAS drivers) is
the
> > following, and this seems to be very enjoyable to all drivers:
> > 1. All races are on fixed setup, full pace, no yellows, no damage and
> > realistic weather....they are all short (15%)....with 20 min practice, 5
> min
> > warmup. (We will change to running yellows and damage...and longer races
> > with at least one pit stop....later in the year when everyone is more
> > comfortable and up to speed running N2K2).
> > 2. We run three races each night as follows:
> > **Race #1: Road Course Race (the race track is chosen from this
list:
> > SP, WG, Pocono or Phoenix....both "road course like" tracks).
> > **Race #2: Always either Daytona or Tally - just for plain old fun
> and
> > grins, door-to-door - racing against good drivers is a blast at these
> > tracks.
> > **Race #3: Any other NASCAR track chosen by consensus after Race #2
> is
> > over.....so nobody has a chance to practice or come up to speed on
> > it...except during the 20 minute practice time allotted. Its a real
"eye
> > opener" to who is....and who is not......a good sim driver/race driver!
> No
> > "NASCAR" track can be repeated until all have been run in this Race #3
> > format.
> > With BS chat between races....this all takes about 2 hrs to 2 1/2 hrs to
> > run. Last night, we were all having so much fun we did a fourth race
back
> > at Tally.
> > I suggest this only because this "format" seems like it would be good
for
> > the group of drivers that have expressed an interest in running
"weekend"
> > RAS group races in N2K2. Only a thought.
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> > > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
> time
> > > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
> > little
> > > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).
> > > David G Fisher
TP
PS: My "absence" is not a reason not to run Bristol....just saying I won't
do it.
> David G Fisher
> > Saturday would be better than Sunday for me as its a NASCAR "race day"
> here
> > in the USA and very often I have lots of people over to watch the race
> (and
> > cook brunch for). Last Sunday was a very rare exception......I would
> almost
> > never make it for Sunday RAS racing. Saturdays.....I could probably run
> in
> > half the events.
> > I run in a group made up of mostly real-world drivers on Monday nights.
> We
> > have just recently switched from running GPL (the guys are almost all
road
> > racers) to N2K2. So, for the first time in a while I'm dialing-in N2K2
> (or
> > N4-like NASCAR type) online racing. I am very impressed with the N2K2
> > "fixed setups" (unlike I was with N4's).......they seem very good at the
> few
> > places I've tried them (WG, SP, Phoenix, Pocono, Bristol and Tally). My
> lap
> > times at WG and SP are almost the same on the fixed setup as on my own
> > "open" setup. I also really like the fact that the race server can
"reset
> > the current session" instantly....including the "race" start. So, if
you
> > mistakenly get a big pile up at the start.....the race can be instantly
> > "reset" without going through practice-qual-warmup all over
> again....that's
> > a huge bonus to fun racing online - IMHO!
> > What we're doing (and I only suggest this since most of the background
of
> > these guys is in road racing - not totally unlike the RAS drivers) is
the
> > following, and this seems to be very enjoyable to all drivers:
> > 1. All races are on fixed setup, full pace, no yellows, no damage and
> > realistic weather....they are all short (15%)....with 20 min practice, 5
> min
> > warmup. (We will change to running yellows and damage...and longer races
> > with at least one pit stop....later in the year when everyone is more
> > comfortable and up to speed running N2K2).
> > 2. We run three races each night as follows:
> > **Race #1: Road Course Race (the race track is chosen from this
list:
> > SP, WG, Pocono or Phoenix....both "road course like" tracks).
> > **Race #2: Always either Daytona or Tally - just for plain old fun
> and
> > grins, door-to-door - racing against good drivers is a blast at these
> > tracks.
> > **Race #3: Any other NASCAR track chosen by consensus after Race #2
> is
> > over.....so nobody has a chance to practice or come up to speed on
> > it...except during the 20 minute practice time allotted. Its a real
"eye
> > opener" to who is....and who is not......a good sim driver/race driver!
> No
> > "NASCAR" track can be repeated until all have been run in this Race #3
> > format.
> > With BS chat between races....this all takes about 2 hrs to 2 1/2 hrs to
> > run. Last night, we were all having so much fun we did a fourth race
back
> > at Tally.
> > I suggest this only because this "format" seems like it would be good
for
> > the group of drivers that have expressed an interest in running
"weekend"
> > RAS group races in N2K2. Only a thought.
> > Regards,
> > Tom
> > > ...how about we choose the track(s) early so we can get some practice
> time
> > > in during the week? Some of us are new to this NASCAR stuff and have
> > little
> > > experience with many of the tracks (like SP this past Sunday).
> > > David G Fisher
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