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Michelin sure screwed their teams.
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Mitch
Kyle
> Mitch
>> I'm suprised I'm not the first to address this...
>> dave henrie
Joe
Yea what a shame. Can you get your money back?
Mitch
> Kyle
>> F1 isnt much different than Europe as a whole. Its all about political
>> wrangling and zero to do with whats the right thing to do.
>> Mitch
>>> I'm suprised I'm not the first to address this...
>>> dave henrie
its only marginally more stupid than the inability of the
administrators & teams to reach a compromise to show some respect to
the fans who keep the sport alive, buy tickets and merchandise.
i'm not laying blame as I don't really have all the facts, but i do
believe that an adequate compromise was possible. i am sure that my 5
year old daughter could have suggested something better than this last
piece of crap. i watched it to see if the fans would stay and get
their boos in. good for them.
my heart goes out to all the fans and families who saved and saved for
this weekend. flying in to indy, staying at hotels, etc. i wish they
could get something back.
hang on a sec...
back.. just started deleting my f1c installation. that'll give me back
20gigs of space. i think i'll play GTR for a few weeks until i calm
down. it took me years to collect that installation, but i feel good
now.
i also won't be buying a ferarri when it comes to selling my old
renault :)
I've been saving to visit my brother in the UK and was considering
going to the Silverstone race. Screw that thought.
Cheers all
istoff
No. I just got my boos in and left after the third or fourth lap. I was
going to renew my tickets tomorrow and do the drive a lap on the track
thing. That is not going to happen now and I will not be going back to the
US Grand Prix or another other F1 race. The FIA obviously does not care
about the fans at all. They had options to pursue to have a full grid, but
instead they chose to***the fans. I was pissed and only had to drive
about 20 miles to the track. I really feel for the people that came from
across the U.S. or from other countries to see this "Traveshamockery!
Kyle
> Joe
> > I'm suprised I'm not the first to address this...
> > dave henrie
The teams have claimed the FIA "refused" to allow them to run on
different tyres. No they didn't, they refused to let them do it without
penalties. That's a difference.
Surely, for the sake of the sport, there should be rule that says,
broadly, "if the FIA gives you a way to get out of your own
predicament and race safely at normal racing speeds at the expense of a
penalty then you must take it or face a suspension from the
championship." That would focus the minds a little... on the needs of
the sport they all claim to support.
Basically, Michelin screwed up, the teams ended up with sub-standard
equipment, they were given an opportunity to race for the fans and they
declined to take it. Blame the teams, blame Michelin, but don't blame
the FIA for being fair.
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> Kyle
>> F1 isnt much different than Europe as a whole. Its all about political
>> wrangling and zero to do with whats the right thing to do.
>> Mitch
>>> I'm suprised I'm not the first to address this...
>>> dave henrie
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>> You weren't the guy that threw the water bottle were ya Kyle? :))
>> Yea what a shame. Can you get your money back?
>> Mitch
> No. I just got my boos in and left after the third or fourth lap. I was
> going to renew my tickets tomorrow and do the drive a lap on the track
> thing. That is not going to happen now and I will not be going back to the
> US Grand Prix or another other F1 race. The FIA obviously does not care
> about the fans at all. They had options to pursue to have a full grid, but
> instead they chose to***the fans. I was pissed and only had to drive
> about 20 miles to the track. I really feel for the people that came from
> across the U.S. or from other countries to see this "Traveshamockery!
> Kyle
One word: Liability.
By driving an unapproved car the drivers (or at least the teams) would be
liable for any damage. Bit like driving without insurance in a normal car I
guess, it's technically possible but you would need a deep wallet if you
cause a problem. It's a risk the teams weren't prepared to take.
Malc.
Ferrari allegedly refused to back the 'chicane' option. Any changes can only
be made if all teams agree. The other 9 did but Ferrari refused to
compromise.
Malc.
> > its only marginally more stupid than the inability of the
> > administrators & teams to reach a compromise to show some respect to
> > the fans who keep the sport alive, buy tickets and merchandise.
> > i'm not laying blame as I don't really have all the facts, but i do
> > believe that an adequate compromise was possible. i am sure that my 5
> > year old daughter could have suggested something better than this last
> > piece of crap. i watched it to see if the fans would stay and get
> > their boos in. good for them.
> > my heart goes out to all the fans and families who saved and saved for
> > this weekend. flying in to indy, staying at hotels, etc. i wish they
> > could get something back.
> > hang on a sec...
> > back.. just started deleting my f1c installation. that'll give me back
> > 20gigs of space. i think i'll play GTR for a few weeks until i calm
> > down. it took me years to collect that installation, but i feel good
> > now.
> > i also won't be buying a ferarri when it comes to selling my old
> > renault :)
> > I've been saving to visit my brother in the UK and was considering
> > going to the Silverstone race. Screw that thought.
> > Cheers all
> > istoff
As I understand it the replacements weren't suitable either so swapping
tyres wasn't an option in the end.
I think you are right there, but as it turned out it wasn't an option AFAIK.
Michelin realised they had 'screwed up' on Friday, well before the race.
They are certainly responsible & I'm sure they will pay heavily for the
mistake, but they did attempt to correct their mistake and to my eyes the
chicane option was the lesser of many evils..
As I understand it the corner has been there for years (of course) but the
'diamond cut' surface was new this season. imo someone at Michelin didn't do
enough homework & assumed a 'regular' track surface.
Mistakes are common & part of motorsport, how the problems that arose from
that mistake were dealt with was the reason for the sparse grid.
Malc.