rec.autos.simulators

What bothers me really is the reaction of the GPL fans to all
kinds of critics to GPL.

For example I loaded the D3D patch and got bad performance,
I read through the readme and changed the parameters as Papy
recommended. I ended with bad performance.

I just asked here in the newsgroup and got a bunch of flames from
the "experts".

This is not an exception. SOme time ago someone posted that he
liked the driving model of NFS Porsche - he got flamed a lot, because
"only GPL has an acceptable driving model".

I am also annoyed by the quality - or lack thereof - of the GPL patches.
They work only with some of the drivers and the game tends to be unstable
with lots of drivers that work with other graphic cards. Even mentioning
of those problems generates lots of protests from the GPL community.

Here are some of mine opinions:
-GPL is a great game
-GPL is too driver sensitive and the patches were not tested properly
- The game runs too slow in comparison to better looking games like NFS
Porsche
-The GPL community defends their game with religious intolerance, I
already know how sensible they will react to people who will like GP3.

Jochen

In your selection of that word to describe your feelings about it you
presented yourself as being rather strident and unreasonable which
annoyed some people.  The bottom line is that the D3D patch was a gift
from a Papyrus engineer who created it solely on his own personal time
so that he could enjoy his Geoforce2 TNT graphics card when racing in
GPL.  For most people, it would be considered pretty rude to refer to
a gift as "crap", thus you received the sorts of replies you did.

I've found that, in general, the responses you receive to posts here
generally reflect the tone of your original message (excepting the
obvious troll posts) so that if you come off rudely, you are going to
receive rude responses.  That's life...

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

I think he may have a point. I find, personally, that the more I play
GPL, the more rude and intolerant I get. Especially rude. No, wait.
Intolerant. That's it. I get more intolerant.

No, wait.

Sorry, rude. That's it, rude. I seem to have a bit of a rough time
weighing one against the other. No, hold it.

It is intolerant. Yes. Back to my original feelings. Intolerant. The more
I play GPL, the more intolerant I get.

For example, when I'm stopping for gas, I like to scream at the attendant
for not keeping it under eigh*** seconds.

Or is that rude?

Either way, the more I play, the more of a conniving, conceited and
rueful bastard I become. It's interesting how other sims bring out other
personality traits:

1) NFS:PU - the more I play, the more I feel acute interest in barbequed
hot dogs; I become revengeful, too.

2) SCGT: Improves my sense of humor, and makes me crave Independent
Films.

3) Nascar 3: Makes me idealistic; makes me sneaky and insightful.

Wow, it's amazing how sims can change you.

Andrew

-Gregor

--
Chuck Kandler  
GPL F1 Handicap of +210.00 as of 6/15
GPL F3 Handicap of +438.42 as of 6/21
K&S Racing
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Registered Linux User #180746
http://counter.li.org

Not everyone is like that,
I feel I'm a bit like you, I like GPL and still enjoy it too but I can see
the good in other sims and I can see a flaw in GPL when there is one to be
seen.

Unfortunately, here are some followers of GPL who won't accept another sim.
I know damn well that GP3 is going to kick some major ass come July 28th but
it is most definitely going to be put down by many around here.

This is the whole reason for HIGH Gears poll on: "Is R.A.S a valid NG?". Of
course certain RAS subscribers (you'll never guess which ones) got their
noses up and "stuffed the box".

I think it sums it up when only last week when I read the words..... "I
don't think GP2 was a sim".

Talking saying your going to get flamed. Woa your dead. :-)

Im just playing around. :-D

You're kidding right? Did someone actually write that? Seriously?

Todd Wasson

Here we go again.

If you really liked GPL you wouldn't have bought an incompatible card in the
first place.

Calling a labour of love "crap" will get you that.

A lot of people commented favourably on NFS:PU, myself included. EA Sports
definately made a step in the rigth direction with this release. I'm sure
anyone saying it had better physics than GPL got a pasting though, because
it just hasn't. GPL, at 18 months old, still has the most advanced physics
found in PC racing simulators. This is not about to change, not before N4
and WSC are released anyway. Might want to get used to that notion.

Yeah well, unsupported sort of implies "don't come crying if it doesn't work
on your machine".

We already knew that. ;-)

But on the other hand, no other game allows you to tailor the car to your
own preferences quite as profoundly as GPL.

NFS:PU has a lot less to calculate behind the scenes, a lot less often. To
quote Keammer:"it's about how many CPU cycles you're willing to spend on
eye-candy".

1) Please don't associate religion with intolerance, although the two might
go together with some (loud) minorities, this is not the case for the vast
majority of people who actively subscribe to a religion.

2) The GPL community is not intolerant towards people with different
opinions unless they make a nuiscance of themselves first. The way things
are shaping up GP3 might well receive a harsh reception here. However,
should this occur, it won't be a reaction of intolerance, rather one of
disappointment.

Jan.
=---

Bollocks.

A great portion of the people here appreciate NFS:PU.  Stop
over-generalising 1 person's opinion as a whole.  We had an incredible
amount of positive feedback on that software, and a very small number of
negative ones.  Electronic Arts are going in the good direction with the new
game engine.

I am anxious in a positive way on how our community will react to the "Big
threes" that are soon to be released (Gp3, N4, WSC).  GPL will still keep
it's nostalgic appeal to the majority (why do you think people still race
F1GP or N1?).

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

What? You haven't got a wife and kids?
See what I mean!!

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL