precious F1 parade.
Wayne
Wayne
Evidently the same differnce as when a World Champion teamate can't pass you
for 2nd place. You just pull over before the start/finish and GIVE him 2nd.
PFFT...... Formula 1.... what a joke!
Wayne
> Schimacher COULD - if he'd used his brain, slowed down, watched montoya
> slide of the road - THEN pull across onto the line and driven away in the
> lead
> Schumacher CLEARLY saw the problem - he swerved once, but didnt slow down.
> Montoya's mistake was to brake too late - and he took himself off as a
> results
> BUT
> Schumacher decided to join him
> Incidentally - what the hell sort of difference does it make if its the
> world champioon overtaking you or anyone else?
> Doug
> > > >Please, no more Montoya hype until he actually starts winning races.
> His
> > > >attitude is childish. This was the first race he even qualified
higher
> > than
> > > >R. Schumacher (by one position), and his defense of the 1st place
> > position
> > > >was pretty poor. He was holding up five other cars, not just
> Schumacher,
> > and
> > > >then made a really dumb defensive maneuver when Schumacher tried to
get
> > by.
> > > I don't think it was a dumb defensive maneuver. Juan had the inside
> > > line (ie track position). Schumacher didn't. He should have let him
> > > by. But he didn't have to. It's called racing.
> > While I didn't like the fact that he was holding up a line of
considerably
> > faster cars very early in the race, he technically wasn't doing anything
> > wrong. But when he drives in deep, locks up the tires, and then runs the
> > world champion off into the grass, then that is a dumb move. If it
weren't
> > for Schumi being best driver on the planet, Montoya probably would have
> > ended up taking out 5 other cars. I like Montoya, but that was totally
> > unnecessary. In fact, it was just plain stupid. That being said, it was
> > still one of the more entertaining F1 races in recent memory.
> > --
> > Gary
Next.
David G Fisher
> > Next.
> That's all you have to say? You completely try to steer yourself out of
the
> situation by veering right and writing that simple one-liner? Nice try
> yourself for an easy escape you, you non-motorsport fan. You wouldn't
know
> somebody named George Ojeda for a try? Muahahaha!!!!
> --
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> Corporation - helping America into the New World...
I'm much better since the "Lobotomy" now ty very much!! :o)~
| >> So............how are you?
"F1 evolved after the death of Senna (no deaths since)..." -- David G
Fisher
You only posted that a few weeks ago. Remember?
You are a typical MS fan, you have no love for motorsport, just a
childish admiration for your flawed hero. AND an even more ridiculous
admiration for the flawed F1!
| David wasn't referring to any driver, because David never said that quote.
| Merry Gerry Dingle Berry has it all wrong.
| David G Fisher
If you had half a brain, David, you wouldn't regurgitated other peoples
rubbish without reading it through first. However because you do only
have half a brain I am able to regurgitate your rubbish.
LOL
Gerry
"F1 drivers come from a world wide talent pool of 6 billion people." --
David G Fisher
>hmmm, whats Han Solo doing here?!!:o)
All i can say is i'm glad i don't race against you on VROC in GPL then,
if that is your oppinion and attitude to open wheel racing.
Unlike sedan racing, it is a bit suicidal to "rub" cars in open wheel
racing.
Cheers,
Ron
Some of you guys have short memories, or maybe just selective memories.
I admit i don't really follow NASCAR racing, not because i don't like
it, but because it is not televised here in Oz, but i have watched a
few races and in most of the races i have watched, team mates help each
other out all the time.
If it wasn't for the yellow flags closing the field up in NASCAR racing
all the time, it would be even more of a formation parade than it is
now.
Seems biff and barge is the American way of racing.
PFFT...... NASCAR racing, (to quote you) "What a joke!"
Cheers,
Ron
You make it sound so simple Doug. And all in the blink of an eye. I
think Schuey did really well to spot Montoya spinning out and react as
quickly as he did.
Clearly. Although we only do virtual racing, I'd still be pretty pissed
at myself if I had spun out and lost 6 positions all for the sake of not
wanting to lose 1 position to the main man.
It may well be that JPM is focusing too much on Schumacher at the moment
(he is rated as top dog) and Montoya, whenever he ends up wheel to wheel
with MS, is letting is own ego get the better of him. Montoya is a
confident guy from what I've seen and is still at the early stage in F1
where perhaps he still has something to prove - especially when it comes
to banging wheels with those who count. I like JPM and, after seeing
him in CART on the odd occasion, really feel that he does have a great
future in F1. I'm sure, with a few more races a more and a bit more
maturity and experience, we will be seeing good things from him. I
don't expect him to make the same mistake twice. He's too good for
that.
--
Peter Ives
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GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel +15.11
Agreed, Schumacher was in control of his Ferrari, Montoya (nearly) lost the
Williams. There's no two ways about it, which JPM should have admitted, but
didn't. Perhaps too close to the incident, perhaps too much pride at stake.
There is that... a bit of "he made me do it!", true.
He misjudged it, sure... but too easy for us to call it after having seen
the incident (several times, in slow motion). Don't you think JPM knows now
too?
Exactly, only you don't seem to be giving JPM the benefit of the doubt as to
his plan being to maintain his challenge on the inside of MS. Ok , so MS
knew he didn't have enough of an edge to just assume the line, he knew the
Colombian had a chance of going deep into the corner and preventing him from
apexing. But who's to say the Colombian didn't intend to do just that... MS
claims it was Juan's intention to block the outside line by whatever means
necessary. From the footage I saw I conclude JPM had to back out of the
brakes substantially on order to avoid wiping out both cars by spinning out
and therefore ran straight off the track. I'm not saying he didn't cause the
incident, I'm saying he was entitled to defend his position but ended up
crossing MS's path by accident.
True, Michael did a great job there... I would have expected him to wait for
a "safer" opportunity though.
Not if you're leading both the championship and your main championship rival
in the race, having your teammate as a buffer in between. Perhaps the ego
clash is too great... JPM wants to become top dog and MS wants to prove the
king is not dead yet?
True, sometimes it doesn't work out that way though and one ends up with egg
on one's face if the situation is not handled with dignity (even if it's
"just" simracing).
Cheers,
Jan.
=---
It's worth remembering that Schu has followed up his remarks by saying that
before he does anything, he has to look at the video:
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( from atlas f-1)
Schumacher said at first he would speak to the Colombian about the incident
but later moderated his stance.
"I think I should first watch the video," he said. "Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe
when I watch the video I will see it slightly differently because when you
are in a racing car when it happens, although you are there, you don't see
all the factors.
"You don't see what kind of trouble he may have. First I will watch the
video and if I think I have to say something to him then I will do," said
Schumacher
-----------
Sounds fair enough to me. SO how about putting the rope back in the barn,
and get your eyes off that tree, that likely looking branch?
--David Karr
PS David G is still a troll. No, no . . . like a troll, but smaller. (I'm
thinking Chicken Hawk, but like ymenard, but I've got a soft spot for the
chicken hawk: "Are you a chicken? Speak up, before I mess you up!" "I
say, I say, hold on there-uh, bwah! . . .")
So let's say something like a smurf, but without charm, without the
accompanying laughtrack (but with the audience's rolling eyes). A ***
Smurf Troll for the New Millenium, spouting gems of wisdom that turn out to
be (sigh) made of plaster. And the jingle? It remains the same (another
characteristic David G shares with the Smurfs: the tune is always
identical). Let's give it a go, then. Everyone join in? On three. A one,
an a two, an a three: "Tra la, la la la la, la la la la la la . . ."
> What a champion! pfft
> > > HE DID NOT RUN THE WORLD CHAMPION OFF THE ROAD - HE NEVER HIT HIM.
> > That turn reminds me alot of the last race of the season, several
years
> > ago, when Jacques V. Caught and passed MS(and thereby clinched the
> > Championship--Mika's first win also I believe). Same kind of situation
> > except MS never locked up, never lost control, he just turned left
instead
> > of right....right into JV!
> > dave henrie
> > > Schimacher COULD - if he'd used his brain, slowed down, watched
montoya
> > > slide of the road - THEN pull across onto the line and driven away in
> the
> > > lead
> > > Schumacher CLEARLY saw the problem - he swerved once, but didnt slow
> down.
> > > Montoya's mistake was to brake too late - and he took himself off as a
> > > results
> > > BUT
> > > Schumacher decided to join him
> > > Incidentally - what the hell sort of difference does it make if its
the
> > > world champioon overtaking you or anyone else?
> > > Doug
> > > > > On Mon, 14 May 2001 01:31:49 GMT, "David G Fisher"
> > > > > >Please, no more Montoya hype until he actually starts winning
> races.
> > > His
> > > > > >attitude is childish. This was the first race he even qualified
> > higher
> > > > than
> > > > > >R. Schumacher (by one position), and his defense of the 1st place
> > > > position
> > > > > >was pretty poor. He was holding up five other cars, not just
> > > Schumacher,
> > > > and
> > > > > >then made a really dumb defensive maneuver when Schumacher tried
to
> > get
> > > > by.
> > > > > I don't think it was a dumb defensive maneuver. Juan had the
inside
> > > > > line (ie track position). Schumacher didn't. He should have let
> him
> > > > > by. But he didn't have to. It's called racing.
> > > > While I didn't like the fact that he was holding up a line of
> > considerably
> > > > faster cars very early in the race, he technically wasn't doing
> anything
> > > > wrong. But when he drives in deep, locks up the tires, and then runs
> the
> > > > world champion off into the grass, then that is a dumb move. If it
> > weren't
> > > > for Schumi being best driver on the planet, Montoya probably would
> have
> > > > ended up taking out 5 other cars. I like Montoya, but that was
totally
> > > > unnecessary. In fact, it was just plain stupid. That being said, it
> was
> > > > still one of the more entertaining F1 races in recent memory.
> > > > --
> > > > Gary
> > David wasn't referring to any driver, because David never said that quote.
> > Merry Gerry Dingle Berry has it all wrong.
> Name calling again. Ha!
> If you had half a brain, David, you wouldn't regurgitated other peoples
> rubbish without reading it through first. However because you do only
> have half a brain I am able to regurgitate your rubbish.