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Montoya Hype

Thom j

Montoya Hype

by Thom j » Mon, 21 May 2001 13:48:32

ya think Mr Junior David God Fisher Einstein?? hahaha
Now I really understand what the "troll meter" is for!!!

| You know something, I was just thinking the other day after reading one of
| your posts how you refreshingly always manage to keep your sense of humour
| on r.a.s., and are able to keep these things in perspective. Guess that
| ability slipped a little today for some reason.
| David G Fisher

Ian

Montoya Hype

by Ian » Mon, 21 May 2001 09:48:37

From http://www.fia.com/presse/f1-a/25-02-97.htm

1996 FACT FILE

There were 40,992,557,185 viewers of the 1996 Formula One season

Total number of minutes of broadcast = 1,631,304 (1995 = 1,586,073)

Total number of broadcasts = 52,588 (1995 = 50,912)

Total number of broadcasting countries = 202 (1995 = 201)

(Total number of countries in the United Nations = 185; 1994 soccer World
Cup = 32 billion viewers; 1992 Summer Olympic Games = 16 billion viewers;
figures for 1996 Olympics not yet available)

Paris, 25 February 1997

So if there were 17 races ( I think it was actually 16) that means an
average of 2,411,326,893 people watched every race.

Youch, thats even higher
than DGF said !!  ;)

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JM

Montoya Hype

by JM » Mon, 21 May 2001 21:28:19

I would take that quote to mean that Schumacher retracts his previous
suggestion that it was a deliberate "take-out",  not that Montoya did
nothing wrong at all.  I watched the race, and unless the Williams team
submits telemetry data to support a fault in the car theory, Montoya was
trying too hard.
He'd failed to block Schumacher's charge out of the previous turn, and
out-braked himself trying to stop Schumacher getting a sweep round the
outside of the turn. Montoya was already off line, as Schuey had took it for
himself.  That left Montoya without the usual braking area- less grip and
less road to do it in.

It is obvious that Montoya made a mistake.  David might choose to call it a
"dumb move" but most mistakes are "dumb moves".

Almost all "racing incidents" are caused by incautious driving, not by
aliens hurling cars at each other with tractor beams.
Online race adjudications often award "racing incident" and no penalty when
the problems related to net latency, and "warp" cause a collision.  I know
real F1 cars are just computers now, but I don't think they have such lag
problems to excuse bad driving... yet ;o)

FWIW, I think Montoya has the potential to be a great F1 driver- we have
seen some flashes of his talent (eg Brazil) but we also see he needs to
learn some self control, still.

He has the raw talent, the rest will come with experience.

cheers,
John


Michael R Sisso

Montoya Hype

by Michael R Sisso » Tue, 22 May 2001 01:55:47


The Formula 1 viewing figures are added up weird. I recall reading how
exactly they calculate it. It is not right. Anyone know where to find the
info or how it is done?

Hrm, a quick search in deja turns up this...

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&ic=1&th=327b9115ff...
7d,13&seekm=7boo5h%24cer%241%40rena.mat.uc.pt#p

Check out message #10 in thread.

As you can see, the figures are counted for race, qual, additional, and
news. Not particularly indicative of actual totals, IMO.

MRSisson

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Graeme Nas

Montoya Hype

by Graeme Nas » Tue, 22 May 2001 02:37:00

If I remember rightly, they came up with figures "proving" that more
people watch F1 than populate the Earth :-)

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Ian

Montoya Hype

by Ian » Tue, 22 May 2001 03:50:02

I'm sure they count every possible occasion of someone viewing F1, however,
DGF didn't specifically say (from what I remember) that his figures were for
just the race ;)

I can't believe I'm defending him <G>

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Thom j

Montoya Hype

by Thom j » Tue, 22 May 2001 05:07:58

So? This guy is only a sponser who pushes his wears for companies!
Just because he writes a 600 million figure its "written in stone" or its
the "gospel truth?" YYSSR...Phew!!! Get a grip will ya?? haha

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| One of these times you'll get it right.
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Thom j

Montoya Hype

by Thom j » Tue, 22 May 2001 06:00:00

If my memory serves me correctly DGF said 300 million **each race**...lol
So does this mean 1 race? 1 event? 1 qual? & how many "Buddhist Monks"
watch F1? Anyone?? <G>

|
| I'm sure they count every possible occasion of someone viewing F1,
however,
| DGF didn't specifically say (from what I remember) that his figures were
for
| just the race ;)
|
| I can't believe I'm defending him <G>
| --
| Ian P

David G Fishe

Montoya Hype

by David G Fishe » Mon, 28 May 2001 06:19:18



R. Schumacher outqualified Montoya again in Monaco by a rather large .7.

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Gerry Aitke

Montoya Hype

by Gerry Aitke » Mon, 28 May 2001 18:06:05




> > He also lucked into the third fastest team in F1. R. Schumacher has
> > outqualified him in every race but one (Montoya outqualified him by one
> > position in Austria). R.Schumacher is the Williams driver who has one a
> race
> > this year.

> R. Schumacher outqualified Montoya again in Monaco by a rather large .7.

 So how many laps has Ralf done at Monaco compared to Montoya then? Do
you think that might have something to do with it?

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