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by **David G Fishe** » Tue, 15 May 2001 10:31:49

Please, no more Montoya hype until he actually starts winning races. His
attitude is childish. This was the first race he even qualified higher than
R. Schumacher (by one position), and his defense of the 1st place position
was pretty poor. He was holding up five other cars, not just Schumacher, and
then made a really dumb defensive maneuver when Schumacher tried to get by.

"I'm racing, so I'm not going to let people by. If they can't get by me,
then they should get out," he said. "He thinks 'I'm Michael so you've got to
let me by.'"

BMW Motorsport director Gerhard Berger, who has been very impressed by the
Williams driver so far this season, allowed his disappointment to show.

"We all know well that Montoya doesn't really make room (for others). You
only come out the winner from something like that if overall you remain in
the lead," he said.

David G Fisher

by **ra301** » Tue, 15 May 2001 10:38:03

I don't think it was a dumb defensive maneuver. Juan had the inside
line (ie track position). Schumacher didn't. He should have let him
by. But he didn't have to. It's called racing.

by **Gaul** » Tue, 15 May 2001 10:51:21

I think everybody here knows your views on Montoya by now. Why don't you
let it drop?

by **Aubre** » Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:14

You're right, for once anyway. Montoya always seemed like a pretty good
sport when he was in CART, and I really want to like the guy, but he does
seem to have developed some kind of attitude problem. Thinking back to
Brazil, he mentioned that he didn't think Schumacher was so great, because
he wouldn't have been able to pass him so easily if he were a great driver.
He seems to have the idea that there's something shameful about backing off
to prevent an accident when another car gets a good run on you. That's
foolish, childish and arrogant if you ask me. There's nothing wrong with
holding up 5 cars, but he should be prepared to concede defeat when they
make a good move. Otherwise, he's not going to finish many races.

But still, sometimes the media will take a quote out of context and make it
sound worse than it really is.

by **ymenar** » Tue, 15 May 2001 10:59:25

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by **don hodgdo** » Tue, 15 May 2001 11:25:36

yawn...

by **David G Fishe** » Tue, 15 May 2001 11:27:30

So............how are you?

I am fine.

David G Fisher

> So?

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- May the Downforce be with you...
> -- http://www.ymenard.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Steve Whitt** » Tue, 15 May 2001 11:50:03

I always thought that a driver had to find a way past. If one driver wants
to block, so be it, its called racing. Whats he supposed to do everytime a
car is behind him; move over and say, "here, you take the lead." Looks
like we could see some interesting battles in the future

Steve

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 15 May 2001 12:08:35

Due to the rapidity that MS closed down on Montoya, I had thought we were
seeing the famed Michelin deadzone, where the tires go off for a time before
returning to full song...(for some reason I always found that concept odd)
I agree the leader has every right to try and hang on...but this was early
and JPM was obviously not up to the pace being set by the conga-line behind
him.
Experience sometimes teaches that 2nd or 3rd is better than no points...I
was pleased to see Ruebens at least able to pace DC & MS. Although I think
if MS had gotten clear of Ruebens he would have pulled away...but thats
water under the bridge...
dave henrie

by **Michael R Sisso** » Tue, 15 May 2001 12:47:50

Ha. I figured it out. You have an o.k. time trolling in r.a.s because
compared to r.a.s.f1, this place is tame.

Too chickenshit to take this post to the place it actually 'belongs'?

Wuss.

Your 'signal to noise' ratio is pretty f'n high.

MRSisson

P.S. Same with all the ***you posted in them thar NASCAR threads.

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by **Gary** » Tue, 15 May 2001 13:42:05

> >Please, no more Montoya hype until he actually starts winning races. His
> >attitude is childish. This was the first race he even qualified higher
than
> >R. Schumacher (by one position), and his defense of the 1st place
position
> >was pretty poor. He was holding up five other cars, not just Schumacher,
and
> >then made a really dumb defensive maneuver when Schumacher tried to get
by.

> I don't think it was a dumb defensive maneuver. Juan had the inside
> line (ie track position). Schumacher didn't. He should have let him
> by. But he didn't have to. It's called racing.

While I didn't like the fact that he was holding up a line of considerably
faster cars very early in the race, he technically wasn't doing anything
wrong. But when he drives in deep, locks up the tires, and then runs the
world champion off into the grass, then that is a dumb move. If it weren't
for Schumi being best driver on the planet, Montoya probably would have
ended up taking out 5 other cars. I like Montoya, but that was totally
unnecessary. In fact, it was just plain stupid. That being said, it was
still one of the more entertaining F1 races in recent memory.

--
Gary

by **Thom j** » Tue, 15 May 2001 14:26:15

and?

by **Gerry Aitke** » Tue, 15 May 2001 16:05:36

Some stuff that belongs on R.A.S.F1, but he's too scared to post it
there. So go David, I dare you.

Gerry

"He owes his survival today to Ayrton Senna, who died in a spectacular
crash
at America's Imola track in 1994." -- David G Fisher, the F1 'expert'.

by **Andre Warrin** » Tue, 15 May 2001 16:50:07

Whoa, I actually agree! It was simply a stupid move.
But: drivers like Montoya do make F1 much more interesting. This
season gave us allready some of the most entertaining F1 races seen in
years!

And I just want to say..
VERSTAAAAAPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

:)

Andre

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