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I pitted 10 times under green and it never would clear.  It finally dq'd me.

The Boss can clear these ya know..

The Boss can do a lot of things, but we're not on two way radio with race
control, so that is kinda moot. You'd have to extend yellows to like 6 laps
at most track to be able to sort stuff out by typing.

There were a lot of alledged bogus black flags in this race. I think I got
one near the end, but so did nearly everyone else, so that evens out, no
problem.

What I do have a problem with is the following. Midway through the race;
there's only one or two cars on the lead lap, I'm the first car 1 lap down.
A yellow happens, leaders pit, I don't, so I'm on the tail end of the lead
lap behind the pacecar. 1 lap to green, leader has to pass a lot of lapped
cars lined up on the inside. Leader overshoots me in T4. He gets no spotter
message, I get a message to pass him. I all but jump the green to do so, he
gets a passing under yellow bf, I get one for passing to the inside on a
restart. This follows from a literal interpretation of the rules by the
game, I know, but I think a real starter would have either waved off the
start or let it slide. Like I said before, I've never seen the real NASCAR
officials apply zero tolerance like it manifests itself in the game.

Nice going Papyrus. And eh, oh yeah... that spotter you put in to help us is
next to useless on these short tracks.

Jan./ bit miffed at whole deal. Would have been a fairly
      good race but for this BS.
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My point wasn't to just arbitrarily clear the BF's, but when a guy CANT
clear it and will be DQ'd (kicked) due to it I do have a PROBLEM.   Next
time it may be you and I'd suspect you would likely have a problem with it..
I'm not saying we have to stop the race but if a guy is already out how hard
is it to correct so I can turn a few laps after all the preparation that
went into it this week?

Oh well, such is online racing :)

Your spotter may be affected by lag also.  Your connect seemed blinky at
best Jan.

My spotter has no excuse... most of this so called warping business is one
way. Most of the time I keep getting position updates on the other car even
if my lat is pegged full red (i.e. only my position data is being
interrupted). My game knows where the other cars are, regardless them being
able to see me. Tonight was bad again tho'. I had a bad feeling about it
beforehand as the web was really slow for me and at about 1/3rds distance it
(predictably: just past dinner time over here) went to pot. National grid
has been playing catch-up since last November, as just about every Harry,
*** and Tom has switched to either cable or ADSL broadband access over
here.

To get back to my point though... when I jammed the #86 (I think) in the
wall I knew and could see he was close but the spotter called "clear" so I
allowed the car to drift up the track. Kyle must have had a nose alongside
and clearly been moving up on me for me to catch him full in the side over
the space of 1/4 turn.

I don't know why the spotter gets behind calling the cars or gets the "stay
behind" stuff under yellow muddled up on the short tracks more than others,
but he does. What's more... subjectively I'd say he's gotten worse at it
over the incarnations. From over-cautious in N2/NR1999 to now just not
saying a word eventhough I'm all but being run over. Calling wrecks? -I've
passed most of them before he gets around to saying where the stopped cars
are (very helpfull with the nice lingering smoke effects we get). But, when
I'm in one he won't fail to do so, eventhough I'm stationary and therefore
unlikely to be hindered by "one stopped down low" or having "a slow car
ahead".

Jeez, just thinking about it has got me more riled up than I ever was in the
race.

Jan.
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I'm gonna try to address this before the next race.

Well, I caused the first yellow on lap 7.  

I was in 4th and following Dave Boykin around the track and I got a
bit of a run on him coming out of turn 2 at the same time he slowed a
bit to compensate for a poor exit from the same turn, and I guess we
were just too close.  I tapped him and we both went around.

I got turned sideways in the way, and while that wasn't too bad, the
103 car (for the 2nd week in a row) creamed me as he was coming up on
the accident.  Just after I got it straightened out and headed down
the track, Steve Brunt pile-drove right into my ass-end and flipped
me over a couple times.  I lost two laps getting the car fixed.

When the crew chief told me there was "trouble with that motor", I
knew my race was gonna end early, and sure enough, on lap 70 after
taking the caution, it died on the front stretch.  During the time
between laps 7 and 70, I got one of the laps back and managed to
avoid hitting anyone else.

I have yet to finish a race this season, despite being able to run up
front, and it's really starting to***me off.

Their were a couple pretty bad spikes for everyone so I would imagine you
really suffer when it happens.

Now that you mention the smoke Jan that brings up another issue I seem to
have. Whenever someone in front of me loses it and the smoke begins I seem
to have a hiccup that causes my inputs to become delayed momentarily then as
it catches up Im losing the back end.  Its the same thing in quite a few
races.  Im not doing anything as in jamming brakes or making steering inputs
yet I seem to just slowly lose the rear end.  I know its me but I think Im
gonna turn off smoke for awhile to see if it makes any difference. My
framerate never drops below 70fps btw so I don't think its a hardware
problem.

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Real sorry about that John. Looking back at the replay I think I could have
done more to avoid it :( It ended my race on the spot - after some head
rolls my engine was in smoke.
Time for me to do a lot of pickup races to work on my crash-avoiding
abilities.

cheers jurjen

We've had a lot of mechanical failures with NR2K3.  I was leading at
Rockingham and with 14 laps to go, we were forming up for the restart
when my engine just up and died.  The really stupid part is that I
had not hit anything or overreved the motor.

Last weekend, Pete Reston lost his gearbox as we took the green.

There have been many others, but those two are the only nes I recall
right now.