rec.autos.simulators

>I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got 36
>fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
>But it's not just the game running slower.

>The game appears to be limiting itself to 25fps, as it does at 36fps
>normally. Also, if I start a qualifying session, and watch the timer, the
>seconds tick by slowly. 10 GPL seconds now actually take 14 REAL seconds to
>pass. This MUST be connected.

>First I tried patching my old GPL install - 25fps.
>Next I re-installed and patched the fresh install - 25fps.
>I then went into the core.ini and set "clock_adj_delay = 16" and
>"synch_method = 0" (2 common solutions) - 25fps
>Turned FF on / off to check - 25fps
>I replaced the new 3dfx rasteriser with the old one - 25fps
>Put Glide 2.56 in GPL dir - 25fps
>Tried standard joystick instead of MSFF wheel - 25fps
>Even tried software mode - 10secs still took 14secs to pass.

>Copied old GPL.exe and core.ini back - GPL 1.0 still runs at 37fps

>The one factor that stayed the same is that time slowed down - 10 seconds
>took 14 real seconds to pass.
>The ratio 25:36 fps = 1.44
>Ratio 10sec:14sec = 1.4

>That MUST be a connection!!!!

>WTF is causing this? It happens in all game modes (even training). Can it
be
>fixed? I want FF!

>My system:
>AMD K6-2 450, Asus P5-A mobo - bios 1007, 128mb PC100 ram, Canopus Voodoo2

>Mike West
>3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk

> I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got
36
> fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
> But it's not just the game running slower.

> The game appears to be limiting itself to 25fps, as it does at 36fps
> normally. Also, if I start a qualifying session, and watch the timer, the
> seconds tick by slowly. 10 GPL seconds now actually take 14 REAL seconds
to
> pass. This MUST be connected.

> First I tried patching my old GPL install - 25fps.
> Next I re-installed and patched the fresh install - 25fps.
> I then went into the core.ini and set "clock_adj_delay = 16" and
> "synch_method = 0" (2 common solutions) - 25fps
> Turned FF on / off to check - 25fps
> I replaced the new 3dfx rasteriser with the old one - 25fps
> Put Glide 2.56 in GPL dir - 25fps
> Tried standard joystick instead of MSFF wheel - 25fps
> Even tried software mode - 10secs still took 14secs to pass.

> Copied old GPL.exe and core.ini back - GPL 1.0 still runs at 37fps

> The one factor that stayed the same is that time slowed down - 10 seconds
> took 14 real seconds to pass.
> The ratio 25:36 fps = 1.44
> Ratio 10sec:14sec = 1.4

> That MUST be a connection!!!!

> WTF is causing this? It happens in all game modes (even training). Can it
be
> fixed? I want FF!

> My system:
> AMD K6-2 450, Asus P5-A mobo - bios 1007, 128mb PC100 ram, Canopus Voodoo2

> Mike West
> 3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk

> I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got
36
> fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
> But it's not just the game running slower.

> The game appears to be limiting itself to 25fps, as it does at 36fps
> normally. Also, if I start a qualifying session, and watch the timer, the
> seconds tick by slowly. 10 GPL seconds now actually take 14 REAL seconds
to
> pass. This MUST be connected.

> First I tried patching my old GPL install - 25fps.
> Next I re-installed and patched the fresh install - 25fps.
> I then went into the core.ini and set "clock_adj_delay = 16" and
> "synch_method = 0" (2 common solutions) - 25fps
> Turned FF on / off to check - 25fps
> I replaced the new 3dfx rasteriser with the old one - 25fps
> Put Glide 2.56 in GPL dir - 25fps
> Tried standard joystick instead of MSFF wheel - 25fps
> Even tried software mode - 10secs still took 14secs to pass.

> Copied old GPL.exe and core.ini back - GPL 1.0 still runs at 37fps

> The one factor that stayed the same is that time slowed down - 10 seconds
> took 14 real seconds to pass.
> The ratio 25:36 fps = 1.44
> Ratio 10sec:14sec = 1.4

> That MUST be a connection!!!!

> WTF is causing this? It happens in all game modes (even training). Can it
be
> fixed? I want FF!

> My system:
> AMD K6-2 450, Asus P5-A mobo - bios 1007, 128mb PC100 ram, Canopus Voodoo2

> Mike West
> 3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk

>I just went through a very similar experience to yours. Tryed just about the
>same things. Nothing seemed to be able to move  the FPS counter off the
>24-25 fps mark, either on or offline. . Gave up in disgust and went back to
>1.0. LATER did some switching back and forth between 1.1 and 1.0. Finally
>decided to try 1.1 online again  just to get some kind of my daily GPL fix.
>NOW I get 33-34 FPS ,both online and offline!! I have *absolutly no* idea
>what finally kicked it in . Keep messing around with it, there must be
>something in there that wakes this thing up.

>I have NEVER had a patch so adversely affect a game before - this shakes my
>confidence in Papyrus as a supplier of leading software -it SHOULD have been
>spotted before release and MUST be fixed real quick.

>Spyboy racing used to be so much fun - now its an icredible source of
>frustration!!

>COME ON PAPYRUS - FIX IT - AND FAST!!!!!!!!! There are hordes of GPL
>enthusiasts really p'd of right now.

>Greg Spark

>My framrate dropped by only 1-2 fps. I was hitting 36-37 with my V 3000
>card, now I am around 35-36.
>--
>Don Burnette
>Dburn on Ten
>http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm

>> I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got
>36
>> fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
>> But it's not just the game running slower.
>snip

> >I just went through a very similar experience to yours. Tryed just about
the
> >same things. Nothing seemed to be able to move  the FPS counter off the
> >24-25 fps mark, either on or offline. . Gave up in disgust and went back
to
> >1.0. LATER did some switching back and forth between 1.1 and 1.0. Finally
> >decided to try 1.1 online again  just to get some kind of my daily GPL
fix.
> >NOW I get 33-34 FPS ,both online and offline!! I have *absolutly no* idea
> >what finally kicked it in . Keep messing around with it, there must be
> >something in there that wakes this thing up.

>    For guys peaking at 25 or 30 fps or so, I wonder if it has
> something to do with the monitor vsynch setting for the 3Dfx cards (I
> don't have one, I've got a Thriller, so I can't be more specific).
> Perhaps the fixes to the 3Dfx rasterizer have mis-set vsync?...

> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

> I have two machines setup with GPL, one has a Voodoo3 3000 and on this the
> framerate shows no ill effects after patching with 1.1

> The other has a Voodoo2 SLI config and this one shows the terrible
slowdown
> problems that seem to be affecting everyone else so perhaps the new
> rast3dfx.dll is causing some problems for Voodoo2 users.

> >My framrate dropped by only 1-2 fps. I was hitting 36-37 with my V 3000
> >card, now I am around 35-36.
> >--
> >Don Burnette
> >Dburn on Ten
> >http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm

> >> I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I
got
> >36
> >> fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
> >> But it's not just the game running slower.
> >snip

> I just went through a very similar experience to yours. Tryed just about
the
> same things. Nothing seemed to be able to move  the FPS counter off the
> 24-25 fps mark, either on or offline. . Gave up in disgust and went back
to
> 1.0. LATER did some switching back and forth between 1.1 and 1.0. Finally
> decided to try 1.1 online again  just to get some kind of my daily GPL
fix.
> NOW I get 33-34 FPS ,both online and offline!! I have *absolutly no* idea
> what finally kicked it in . Keep messing around with it, there must be
> something in there that wakes this thing up.

> David Erb (who is completely mystified over this)

> > I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got
> 36
> > fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
> > But it's not just the game running slower.

> > The game appears to be limiting itself to 25fps, as it does at 36fps
> > normally. Also, if I start a qualifying session, and watch the timer,
the
> > seconds tick by slowly. 10 GPL seconds now actually take 14 REAL seconds
> to
> > pass. This MUST be connected.

> > First I tried patching my old GPL install - 25fps.
> > Next I re-installed and patched the fresh install - 25fps.
> > I then went into the core.ini and set "clock_adj_delay = 16" and
> > "synch_method = 0" (2 common solutions) - 25fps
> > Turned FF on / off to check - 25fps
> > I replaced the new 3dfx rasteriser with the old one - 25fps
> > Put Glide 2.56 in GPL dir - 25fps
> > Tried standard joystick instead of MSFF wheel - 25fps
> > Even tried software mode - 10secs still took 14secs to pass.

> > Copied old GPL.exe and core.ini back - GPL 1.0 still runs at 37fps

> > The one factor that stayed the same is that time slowed down - 10
seconds
> > took 14 real seconds to pass.
> > The ratio 25:36 fps = 1.44
> > Ratio 10sec:14sec = 1.4

> > That MUST be a connection!!!!

> > WTF is causing this? It happens in all game modes (even training). Can
it
> be
> > fixed? I want FF!

> > My system:
> > AMD K6-2 450, Asus P5-A mobo - bios 1007, 128mb PC100 ram, Canopus
Voodoo2

> > Mike West
> > 3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk

> I don't know if this is what everyone is getting, but with GPL 1.0 I got
36
> fps. In the same places with 1.1 I get 25 fps.
> But it's not just the game running slower.

> The game appears to be limiting itself to 25fps, as it does at 36fps
> normally. Also, if I start a qualifying session, and watch the timer, the
> seconds tick by slowly. 10 GPL seconds now actually take 14 REAL seconds
to
> pass. This MUST be connected.

> First I tried patching my old GPL install - 25fps.
> Next I re-installed and patched the fresh install - 25fps.
> I then went into the core.ini and set "clock_adj_delay = 16" and
> "synch_method = 0" (2 common solutions) - 25fps
> Turned FF on / off to check - 25fps
> I replaced the new 3dfx rasteriser with the old one - 25fps
> Put Glide 2.56 in GPL dir - 25fps
> Tried standard joystick instead of MSFF wheel - 25fps
> Even tried software mode - 10secs still took 14secs to pass.

> Copied old GPL.exe and core.ini back - GPL 1.0 still runs at 37fps

> The one factor that stayed the same is that time slowed down - 10 seconds
> took 14 real seconds to pass.
> The ratio 25:36 fps = 1.44
> Ratio 10sec:14sec = 1.4

> That MUST be a connection!!!!

> WTF is causing this? It happens in all game modes (even training). Can it
be
> fixed? I want FF!

> My system:
> AMD K6-2 450, Asus P5-A mobo - bios 1007, 128mb PC100 ram, Canopus Voodoo2

> Mike West
> 3DNow! UK: www.3dnow.freeserve.co.uk