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GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

John Courtn

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by John Courtn » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Hi,
    I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried it
on my existing copy first too).  Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS
when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1.  
Everything seems so slow at this frame rate!

My system:
AMD K6-2 333
video card: Matrix G200
3dfx card: Diamond Monster Voodoo II (latest drivers, I tried it with the
old 2.03 drivers too, same thing...)
Sound: SB 64 sound card

I can't find the gplts.html file talked about in the install, it's not in
the game directory.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
John

Michae

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Michae » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range),
but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install.  I get the same framerate
regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem to
be a video acceleration problem.  Also have an AMD (400 though).  Toggling
FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't seem
to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff data
already computed to the controller.

Michael


Greg Cisk

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Greg Cisk » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

What wheel are you guys using???

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>I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range),
>but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install.  I get the same framerate
>regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem
to
>be a video acceleration problem.  Also have an AMD (400 though).  Toggling
>FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't seem
>to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff data
>already computed to the controller.

>Michael



>> Hi,
>>     I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried it
>> on my existing copy first too).  Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS
>> when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1.
>> Everything seems so slow at this frame rate!

>> My system:
>> AMD K6-2 333
>> video card: Matrix G200
>> 3dfx card: Diamond Monster Voodoo II (latest drivers, I tried it with the
>> old 2.03 drivers too, same thing...)
>> Sound: SB 64 sound card

>> I can't find the gplts.html file talked about in the install, it's not in
>> the game directory.  Any ideas?

>> Thanks,
>> John

Michae

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Michae » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Wheel 1: TSW2 Formula w/ paddles - my preferred wheel.
Got a solid 36fps with this setup prior to GPL 1.1.  Now gets 25-26FPS.  No
change with FF toggle on or off (shouldn't be).

Wheel 2: Logitech Formula Force - USB
Only turned 32-34 FPS with this wheel before 1.1. Now only gets 24-25 with
FF, 25-26 without FF. Low point of 20fps when sliding after hitting a wall
with FF on.

Can anyone explain such heavy loss in framerate between GPL and GPL 1.1 - Or
was the patch intended only for those running celery 450s or better.  If so,
why not tell us that before we installed!

Michael


> What wheel are you guys using???


> >I've had a similar slowdown in framerate (from 35-36 to the 25-26 range),
> >but with a voodoo 3 3k on a fresh install.  I get the same framerate
> >regardless of resolution from 640x480 up to 1280x1024, so it doesn't seem
> to
> >be a video acceleration problem.  Also have an AMD (400 though).
Toggling
> >FF on/off by ini file makes no difference in framerate, so it doesn't
seem
> >to be a ff issue - unless the on off toggle only changes sending of ff
data
> >already computed to the controller.

> >Michael



> >> Hi,
> >>     I just installed GPL 1.1 on top of a fresh install of GPL (I tried
it
> >> on my existing copy first too).  Before GPL 1.1 I would get 35-36 FPS
> >> when running on my own, now I am getting 25-26 tops with GPL 1.1.
> >> Everything seems so slow at this frame rate!

Ed Ba

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Ed Ba » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:31:26 GMT,


I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. It runs about the same
with my Force RS as it did prior to the patch when I used my TSW.
I totally reinstalled GPL and then applied the patch.
I haven't tried it on 1.1 with the TSW.

My system:

PII-375 (5x75) / Diamond MX-300 /
 Voodoo3-2000 (155mhz) / 128MB.

I have the latest (non-quake) reference drivers from 3dfx.com.
and the latest FF drivers from the ACTLABS site, with split-axis.

I use the provided sample core.ini file and only changed
force feedback to 1.

I use the MX-300 gameport and always cancel all background
tasks before running, using CTL-ALT-DEL, except Explorer
and Systray.

I have a 230MB fixed length Windows swapfile.

Currently, I am just hotlapping at 1024x768 and the 36 fps is
-really- steady with all detail on at Monza, Spa, and Nurburgring.

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Ed Ba

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Ed Ba » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:56:34 GMT,


>On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 07:31:26 GMT,


>>Can anyone explain such heavy loss in framerate between GPL and GPL 1.1

>I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1. It runs about the same
>with my Force RS as it did prior to the patch when I used my TSW.
>I totally reinstalled GPL and then applied the patch.
>I haven't tried it on 1.1 with the TSW.

>My system:

>PII-375 (5x75) / Diamond MX-300 /
> Voodoo3-2000 (155mhz) / 128MB.

>I have the latest (non-quake) reference drivers from 3dfx.com.
>and the latest FF drivers from the ACTLABS site, with split-axis.

>I use the provided sample core.ini file and only changed
>force feedback to 1.

>I use the MX-300 gameport and always cancel all background
>tasks before running, using CTL-ALT-DEL, except Explorer
>and Systray.

>I have a 230MB fixed length Windows swapfile.

>Currently, I am just hotlapping at 1024x768 and the 36 fps is
>-really- steady with all detail on at Monza, Spa, and Nurburgring.

I forgot to mention, I only have cars/track in my mirror settings.

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Jo

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Jo » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1.

In fact, though it may be my imagination, it seems to run just a tad
smoother.

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wow..

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by wow.. » Sun, 11 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Hi John,

I've got kind of the same problem. I've just
installed the german patch and in the
"In-Car"-View it run's _very_ jerky. If I switch
to Outside-View or the other Camera-Views its
running very smooth and better than before.

Therefore I'm sure it has nothing to do with the
force-feedback.

I have a P266, 64MB and a Voodoo I.

Bernd

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install of GPL (I tried it
I would get 35-36 FPS
drivers, I tried it with the
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Wolfgang Prei

GPL is SLOW after GPL 1.1 patch install

by Wolfgang Prei » Mon, 12 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>Joe schrieb:


>> >I don't have the loss in framerate w/1.1.

>> In fact, though it may be my imagination, it seems to run just a tad
>> smoother.

>I just noticed one thing: somewhere during the first lap out of the pits
>on a newly loaded track I get a small hickup (frozen picture for a msec),
>that I didn't see (or notice?) before the patch. Anybode else?

I had this problem with the original version of GPL. After loading the
track and leaving the pits, the game would pause for a tiny amount of
time - barely long enough to notice, but somewhat distracting. I
remember this effect most pointedly on the 'Ring. It would happen
every time I exited Suedkehre, and then again on other sections of the
track. After the first lap, however, the effect would vanish.

Back then, I ascribed this behaviour to my trusty old Voodoo1 taking
her time loading a texture or two and didn't think much about it.
Then, the effect vanished completely. I have no idea what ultimately
caused it, and what made it go away.

This quirk didn't come back with the patch. Framerates are fine, i.e.
identical to those I had before. But then, I don't have (yet) a FF
wheel.

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