ECCI wheel

discussed in 1,039 posts, 1996-2009 · overall tone very positive

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Key threads

• ECCI stops selling high-end wheels to individual customers 2000-05-31 · 84 posts
  News that ECCI would make wheels only for commercial customers drew a reply from ECCI's Andy Cers, who implied that praise for rival TSW came from reviewers given free products. Scott Husted angrily rejected the insinuation, while ECCI owners such as Mike Grandy defended the quality of its $1,500 wheels. Others said cheap force-feedback wheels had shrunk the market for premium wheels.
• Buying an ECCI wheel and PDPI/PMB2 setup tips 2004-04-14 · 52 posts
  John Simmons announced he was buying an ECCI 6000GT wheel with the PMB2 brake module and USB option. Steve Smith said his ECCI had gained him about two seconds a lap and shared registry tweaks for the PDPI gameport card, while several owners complained that the PMB2 brake required enormous force. Joachim Trensz noted that real brakes lock well before full pedal travel, and a side spat flared between John Simmons and David G Fisher over RASCAR.
• Boston Globe article on high-end sim racing wheels 2004-07-20 · 76 posts
  Don Wilshe posted a Boston Globe article on expensive racing wheels in which he was quoted saying a skilled racer with a cheap wheel would probably lose to a high-quality rig. Many disputed this, citing fast joystick users such as Wolfgang Woeger in GPL and arguing practice and familiarity matter more, while John Simmons said his ECCI wheel had clearly improved his results. Side debates covered force feedback versus non-FF boutique wheels and steering resolution.
• Choosing a wheel for GPL: TSW, ECCI or ACT Labs 1999-01-04 · 30 posts
  A T2 owner asked which wheel to upgrade to. An ECCI owner claimed it beat the TSW for build quality, prompting Trevor Thomas of Thomas Enterprises to defend the TSW and cite Car and Driver's comparison, which led to complaints about aggressive TSW advocacy. Others mentioned the Hyperstimulator kit and criticised the ACT Labs Force RS.
• High-end wheels compared: ECCI, TSW and SRC 1999-07-05 · 41 posts
  A user sought a precise, quality non-FF wheel to replace a Thrustmaster NASCAR Pro. Owners debated the $1000 ECCI, the TSW and TSW2, and the SRC wheel, with Adam and Dave Trager calling the TSW crude and others, including John Bodin, defending it as durable and smooth for the money. Neil Raine argued quality means fitness for purpose rather than polish.
• High-grade potentiometers and TSW versus ECCI wheels 1999-04-13 · 34 posts
  A TSW owner praised the Spectrol potentiometers sold by Thomas Enterprises and asked for anything better. An ECCI representative described the company's own pots and pedal design, prompting debate over whether the post was an advert and comparisons of the TSW and ECCI wheels, including ECCI's large pedals. Others pointed out that similar pots are available cheaply from electronics suppliers, and some balked at $1,500 wheel prices.
• Customer anger at TSW wheel delays 1997-06-01 · 25 posts
  Sean Higgins said he would not buy from TSW after repeated delivery delays, and asked for alternative wheel recommendations. Owners compared ECCI and TSW units, most praising both products' quality. TSW owner Trevor Thomas replied by attacking the wrong person, which several readers said put them off buying from him.
• TSW vs ECCI wheel owners compare notes 1997-08-10 · 24 posts
  A buyer asked TSW and ECCI owners for their experiences. A computer retailer reported 30–40% return rates on Thrustmaster T1/T2 wheels and preferred ECCI, while others praised the TSW's smoothness and its lifetime warranty. TSW's Trevor Thomas said earlier potentiometer failures had been fixed with custom parts and that a digital model was being developed.
• Backlash against Thomas Enterprises' defence of the TSW wheel 1999-01-09 · 42 posts
  Karl complained that anyone praising a non-TSW wheel was attacked by TSW supporters. Trevor Thomas of Thomas Enterprises responded combatively and called critics clowns, which many posters said was unprofessional and would cost him customers, while TSW owners defended both the wheel and his right to respond.
• Extreme Competition Controls announces $1,395 CDS 5000 wheel 1997-04-15 · 20 posts
  Extreme Competition Controls announced its top-end CDS 5000 wheel and pedal system, with fluid-damped steering and a MOMO wheel. Many thought the price absurd compared with a Thrustmaster T2, and John Wallace said his tests found the cheaper ECCI CDS roughly equal to the TSW wheel. ECCI owners defended the build quality and reliability.
• GPL 1.1 force feedback praised; FF versus premium wheels 1999-07-09 · 62 posts
  Users praised the new force feedback in GPL 1.1 as the best yet, conveying grip and weight transfer through the wheel. ECCI and TSW owners insisted their non-FF wheels remained superior, leading to a testy debate. Randy Cassidy asked whether a working Yugo or an engineless Ferrari was better, prompting Yugo and Trabant jokes, and some planned to keep both a premium wheel and an FF wheel.
• ECCI returning to consumer wheels; FF versus damping debate 2003-07-02 · 33 posts
  Larry Lindstrom reported that ECCI's Andy told him the company would return to the consumer market with a new wheel. This led to a debate between owners of ECCI fluid-damped wheels and force feedback advocates over which gives more realistic feel. Steve Smith later mentioned ECCI's upcoming Trackstar pedals at about $200.
• Tips for newcomers struggling with GPL's difficulty 1998-11-02 · 51 posts
  A self-described novice asked for help with GPL. The consensus was practice, starting slowly in the trainer cars, learning one track at a time, and reading Alison Hine's site and Steve Smith's book. The thread also explained opposite lock, compared TSW, ECCI and Thrustmaster wheels, and debated the order of downshifting and braking.
• Thomas Super Wheel quality and service dispute 1999-07-28 · 55 posts
  A buyer asked whether the Thomas Super Wheel was worth it; most owners praised its robustness, while some recommended ECCI or SRC wheels. Bob Curtin described a months-long repair ordeal, which led to a heated public exchange with Thomas Enterprises' Dave Thomas Jr and Trev, who said their records showed otherwise, and with Randy Magruder. Many other owners reported good service, and ECCI said it had considered force feedback.
• Durable steering wheels versus cheap ones 1999-10-21 · 25 posts
  Andre Hanegraaf asked whether to buy an expensive wheel after wearing out five cheap ones. Replies covered the ECCI CDS4000, Hyperstimulator, F1SIM and home-built wheels. The thread turned sour when mets41 boasted about his salary and others mocked him.

Busiest threads

• ECCI stops selling high-end wheels to individual customers (38 posts about it)
• Buying an ECCI wheel and PDPI/PMB2 setup tips (20 posts about it)
• Boston Globe article on high-end sim racing wheels (19 posts about it)
• Choosing a wheel for GPL: TSW, ECCI or ACT Labs (17 posts about it)
• High-end wheels compared: ECCI, TSW and SRC (16 posts about it)
• High-grade potentiometers and TSW versus ECCI wheels (15 posts about it)
• Customer anger at TSW wheel delays (13 posts about it)
• TSW vs ECCI wheel owners compare notes (13 posts about it)
• Backlash against Thomas Enterprises' defence of the TSW wheel (13 posts about it)
• Extreme Competition Controls announces $1,395 CDS 5000 wheel (12 posts about it)
• GPL 1.1 force feedback praised; FF versus premium wheels (12 posts about it)
• ECCI returning to consumer wheels; FF versus damping debate (11 posts about it)
• Check this wheel out!!!!! Holy Cow!!!! (10 posts about it)
• Tips for newcomers struggling with GPL's difficulty (9 posts about it)
• Thomas Super Wheel quality and service dispute (9 posts about it)

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Each post that discussed it was rated from −2 (very negative) to +2 (very positive).

Who talked about it most

Mike Grandy · 49 Stuart Boo · 36 Larry Lindstrom · 29 Steve Smith · 25 AndyCers · 19 Don Scurlock · 18 John Bodin · 17 Scott B. Husted · 16 Joeri Cox · 16 ymenard · 15 Woodie 83 · 14 Bart Westra · 13 Rush · 12 John Simmons · 12 Greg Cisko · 11 ACers · 11 John Wallace · 11 Adam · 11 mets41 · 10 Michael E. Carver · 10

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