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GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

Dave Hawn

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Dave Hawn » Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:00:00


> Hi guys can any of you help, I was thinking of getting a Voodoo 3 3000
> for playing GPL, anyway I was over at a mates house who has one and we
> fired up GPL and all the graphics looked corrupted with wierd lines
> thru the trees and tracks and colors all out of sysnc, is there a
> promblem with GPL and the V3 ??. He was using the default drivers
> that came with the card.

> Also will a V3 give me a big boost over my V2 12meg on a Celeron 300
> O/C to 375.
> Hotdog

Install the GPL 1.1 patch and all (well almost) will be well!  Or limmit
the
rasteriser to 2 megs in the V3 advanced setup... if you are using the
original  GPL.
Yup, you should see an improvement in FPS and quality of graphics with the
V3
Dave Hawnt UK-GPL
DP-MA

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by DP-MA » Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Hi,
 I just got the weaker V3 2000 and had no such problems? I have the latest
GPL patch on...
Meaning I'm ok then?

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> > Hi guys can any of you help, I was thinking of getting a Voodoo 3 3000
> > for playing GPL, anyway I was over at a mates house who has one and we
> > fired up GPL and all the graphics looked corrupted with wierd lines
> > thru the trees and tracks and colors all out of sysnc, is there a
> > promblem with GPL and the V3 ??. He was using the default drivers
> > that came with the card.

> > Also will a V3 give me a big boost over my V2 12meg on a Celeron 300
> > O/C to 375.
> > Hotdog

> Install the GPL 1.1 patch and all (well almost) will be well!  Or limmit
> the
> rasteriser to 2 megs in the V3 advanced setup... if you are using the
> original  GPL.
> Yup, you should see an improvement in FPS and quality of graphics with the
> V3
> Dave Hawnt UK-GPL

Tony Jeste

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Tony Jeste » Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Like a lot of people all over the world, I have spent hundred of  hours racing
GPL.  Lately I've noticed the way I drive my real car has changed.  For one
thing, now I ALWAYS hold the steering wheel with both hands, at 9 and 3
o'clock, with my thumbs wrapped around the spokes, just like I hold the wheel
of my TM Nascar Pro.  But even more dramatic to me, I notice now I tend to make
my turn- ins just a little early, and then make a lot of very small corrections
to obtain my desired line.  Before I would tend to make fewer but necessarily
larger corrections, sometimes being a little late with the turn-in.  Maybe this
is a result of racing a lot at Spa, where it seems a late turn-in is usually
pretty disasterous.  Anyway, I seem to enjoy driving much more now after GPL,
and my reactions to the car are MUCH quicker, although my real car doesn't
handle very much like the Ferarri 312 :-)

-Tony

J

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by J » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Yup

Either patch or limiting texture to 2MB

Jens


>Hi,
> I just got the weaker V3 2000 and had no such problems? I have the latest
>GPL patch on...
>Meaning I'm ok then?

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Jo

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Jo » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I've noticed similar effects, even though my vehicle (a 72 VW van) is
not quite as powerful as the GPL cars. ;-)

But the training is still useful ... for example we have a new puppy
dog in our house, and I took her out for one of her first car rides
the other day. So I was using GPL-type driving to minimize
acceleration/deceleration and lateral g-forces.


>Like a lot of people all over the world, I have spent hundred of  hours racing
>GPL.  Lately I've noticed the way I drive my real car has changed.  For one
>thing, now I ALWAYS hold the steering wheel with both hands, at 9 and 3
>o'clock, with my thumbs wrapped around the spokes, just like I hold the wheel
>of my TM Nascar Pro.  But even more dramatic to me, I notice now I tend to make
>my turn- ins just a little early, and then make a lot of very small corrections
>to obtain my desired line.  Before I would tend to make fewer but necessarily
>larger corrections, sometimes being a little late with the turn-in.  Maybe this
>is a result of racing a lot at Spa, where it seems a late turn-in is usually
>pretty disasterous.  Anyway, I seem to enjoy driving much more now after GPL,
>and my reactions to the car are MUCH quicker, although my real car doesn't
>handle very much like the Ferarri 312 :-)

>-Tony

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Christer Andersso

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Christer Andersso » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
:o).

/Christer


>Like a lot of people all over the world, I have spent hundred of  hours
racing
>GPL.  Lately I've noticed the way I drive my real car has changed.  For one
>thing, now I ALWAYS hold the steering wheel with both hands, at 9 and 3
>o'clock, with my thumbs wrapped around the spokes, just like I hold the
wheel
>of my TM Nascar Pro.  But even more dramatic to me, I notice now I tend to
make
>my turn- ins just a little early, and then make a lot of very small
corrections
>to obtain my desired line.  Before I would tend to make fewer but
necessarily
>larger corrections, sometimes being a little late with the turn-in.  Maybe
this
>is a result of racing a lot at Spa, where it seems a late turn-in is
usually
>pretty disasterous.  Anyway, I seem to enjoy driving much more now after
GPL,
>and my reactions to the car are MUCH quicker, although my real car doesn't
>handle very much like the Ferarri 312 :-)

>-Tony

Olav K. Malm

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Olav K. Malm » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00


> Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
> change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
> :o).

I was pretty close yesterday, let go my clutch to early :o

But the worst thing is when driving my real car is that I always try to find
the perfect line. Like in a right turn, it first put my left tires on the
middle line of the road, then try to hit the apex at the left line in the
middle of the corner, and then out to the middle line again. It's actually
very cool on wide roads. But it must look very stupid :)

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Grant Reev

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Grant Reev » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00



> > Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
> > change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
> > :o).

> I was pretty close yesterday, let go my clutch to early :o

Last year i was driving my mother's car one day and suddenly realised
that during the shift I had just done I had completley forgotten to use
the clutch. Sure, I happened to pull it off perfectly, but I've never
let myself do that again :)

i do that all the time too :) I figure that we only look stupid to
people
who have no clue about how to drive well. Their opinion of us doesn't
count :)
Instead, what I think looks really stupid is when I'm swerving around on
a
straight road to avoid hitting all the potholes and man-hole covers that
stick out an inch or so. My car has pretty darn stiff suspension and low
profile tires so I don't want to damage the tires/rims or make my CD
player
skip. But of course I try to find the optimal line through the potholes
and
man-hole covers too... :)

Grant.

Michael Barlo

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Michael Barlo » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

        What would really say that you're driving like you would online is when
you crash before you get to the end of the block ;-)




> > > Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
> > > change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
> > > :o).

> > I was pretty close yesterday, let go my clutch to early :o

> Last year i was driving my mother's car one day and suddenly realised
> that during the shift I had just done I had completley forgotten to use
> the clutch. Sure, I happened to pull it off perfectly, but I've never
> let myself do that again :)

> > But the worst thing is when driving my real car is that I always try to find
> > the perfect line. Like in a right turn, it first put my left tires on the
> > middle line of the road, then try to hit the apex at the left line in the
> > middle of the corner, and then out to the middle line again. It's actually
> > very cool on wide roads. But it must look very stupid :)

> i do that all the time too :) I figure that we only look stupid to
> people
> who have no clue about how to drive well. Their opinion of us doesn't
> count :)
> Instead, what I think looks really stupid is when I'm swerving around on
> a
> straight road to avoid hitting all the potholes and man-hole covers that
> stick out an inch or so. My car has pretty darn stiff suspension and low
> profile tires so I don't want to damage the tires/rims or make my CD
> player
> skip. But of course I try to find the optimal line through the potholes
> and
> man-hole covers too... :)

> Grant.

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Wolfgang Prei

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Wolfgang Prei » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00



>> Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
>> change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
>> :o).

>I was pretty close yesterday, let go my clutch to early :o

>But the worst thing is when driving my real car is that I always try to find
>the perfect line. Like in a right turn, it first put my left tires on the
>middle line of the road, then try to hit the apex at the left line in the
>middle of the corner, and then out to the middle line again. It's actually
>very cool on wide roads. But it must look very stupid :)

I, too, try to find the perfect line (within the limits of my lane and
- generally - of the speed limit.) There is a chicane (literally, it's
meant to slow down cars entering or exiting a village) on a road I
drive on regularly. On the way out of the village, it goes
left-right-left, and on the right side, there are some flat curbs.
Recently, somebody painted the curbs alternatingly red and white. I
mean, that's a deliberate temptation, isn't it? :)

BTW: I recently saw how beneficial sim racing can be for driving in
the real world: I was driving on the Autobahn and saw some smoke above
the track^M^M road ahead. I could not see what was the cause, but,
being sim-trained, I concluded "accident" immediately, rather than
assuming the more probable explanation - a peasant burning some straw
next to the road, or something like this.

Anyway, I slowed down a bit and when I came around the kink in the
road - bingo, a car had spun and crashed against the center guardrail.
[I wonder how the driver managed to spin there - it's a passage that
can be taken with 120 mph and more without a problem, provided the
right car.]

Well, there never was a real danger for me, since my car does not do
more than 80 mph downhill with a strong wind pushing, and I always
would have had enough time to see the crash before having to
participate in it. But in a faster car, the situational awareness
provided by extensive simracing might have actually saved me some
serious trouble.

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Jo

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Jo » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00


>Anyway, I slowed down a bit and when I came around the kink in the
>road - bingo, a car had spun and crashed against the center guardrail.
>[I wonder how the driver managed to spin there - it's a passage that
>can be taken with 120 mph and more without a problem, provided the
>right car.]

Probably a Porsche 911. No wait, I forgot, those don't oversteer. ;-)

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Andrew MacPhers

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

This is quite dangerous isn't it? The priority should always to give
yourself maximum visibility ahead.

Sorry to be serious, but GPL doesn't have many cars coming the other way,
and a nice man with a flag tells you if there's a problem ahead!

Andrew McP

Woodie

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Woodie » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00



>Something I've noticed is that in my real car I'm sometimes very close to
>change gear without clutching. It hasn't happen yet, but I've been close
>:o).

Go right ahead.  I was doing this long before I owned a computer.

Don McCorkle
Libertarian Motorsports

Tony Jeste

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Tony Jeste » Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:00:00

False.  It is very possible to shift gears in a syncomesh trans without using
the clutch.  It just isn't as easy.
-Tony

Jan Verschuere

GPL & Voodoo 3 Promblems

by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:00:00

How is that actually done?? Neutral - blip - gear?? I've tried it only  to
be greeted by some serious protest from my gearbox. Also I've been told it's
impossible to do on a synchronised gearbox... true or false?

Jan.
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